dinosaurs never existed. The dinosaur fossils were created by paleontologist scam artists.

[superdestructionyou]

@Ouroboros
where are the pores you talk about

below real bone pores from a real bone.

you cold create a similar fossil with the same outcome. You would first create the outlines than the internal structure. Nothing impossible.

statues themselves have pores and when you break it it would have pores.

also I doubt that a fossil owner would let you cut up or break a fossil into pieces. Their are only a few fossils that claim to have pores and they were claimed to be found broken that is according the few amount of links i was able to find.

 

[columbus]

No one has seen dinosaurs and it's all in science secret society who has uncovered these fossils...

Uh, no. We are talking about my sister.
While acquiring a couple of master degrees in biology from Notre Dame, one of the things she did was spend a few weeks on a dig in some nasty place like South Dakota. She carefully scraped tiny bits of rock from some large fossilized dinosaur skeleton.
She is not the type to suffer fools and if she'd thought for one second that fossil was a hoax there would be bloody hell to pay.

For context, another job she did was monitor water quality in the Savannah river, downstream from the nuclear power plant. Part of her daily kit was a baseball bat, because she was usually in a row boat and the river had a lot of alligators. They could be a problem, but she could deal with it. And she did a couple of times.

My sister is smart and tough and if that fossil were fake I'd know about it. My sister would not put up with fraud, especially not on her own home turf. That is biological sciences.
Tom

 

[jeager106]

So is someone suggesting that scientist lie and commit fraud and the rest of
the scientific community wouldn't SCREAM foul?
Really?
Those pores in a fresh fossil (relatively speaking) would fill with minerals in a fossil
you see.
Such is the way fossils are formed.
Bone to stone.
Look it up if ya likes.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

@Ouroboros
where are the pores you talk about

below real bone pores from a real bone.

you cold create a similar fossil with the same outcome. You would first create the outlines than the internal structure. Nothing impossible.

statues themselves have pores and when you break it it would have pores.

also I doubt that a fossil owner would let you cut up or break a fossil into pieces. Their are only a few fossils that claim to have pores and they were claimed to be found broken that is according the few amount of links i was able to find.

Indents aren't the same as pours and besides, if you cut open a statue you get indents that dipple the surface and solid stone beneath. Bones have actual chambers, sinuses and even some remnants of soft tissue mummified by surrounding mineralization. You can even see the difference when doing a longitudinal slice.

Under a microscope you can see the sinuses, as well as fossilized osteocytes which you most certainly wouldn't with normal rock.:

http://www.microlabgallery.com/gallery/BoneDinosuar40X2c.aspx
Meanwhile this is a slice of sandstone.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

dinosaurs, cavemen and prehistoric animals never existed. Fossils are rock sediment impressions made out of rock sediments like sandstone and not bone.

Alright, so implicit in your argument is that all bones under many varied conditions must have a very poor preservation rate. Say that only 10 million years pass from our present point. Using science, describe to us what might remain of our civilization at that point if in the present we all went extinct. Or do you believe that over the course of that 10 million years, every trace our existence here would disintegrate?

 

[Parsimony]

sorry to the people actually reading my posts and watching my videos. So far I have gotten annoying and inhospitable questions without any intelligent disputes. The arguments are of elementary school level. Their are some claiming that they know paleontology but they keep on asking me questions asking me to show links though if they know paleontology they wouldn't be asking such simple questions that the should already know. I came here to post a topic hoping some people would at least be into paleontology and know paleontology that they wouldn't be asking me questions or asking me links.

Some even posted links and think a link is suppose to somehow prove me wrong just because they found a random link that agree's with what their opinions or beliefs. People who only add links as arguments- indicates that they barely know the subject or else they would explain exactly what they are trying to express or explain in full clear detail . The internet is full of biased websites that are based more on opinion and not facts.

Some guy even asked me if I knew Geology though we were talking about paleontology. I'm assuming they didn't even know what paleontology was before I wrote my thread. Trust me the people trying to dispute me are only basing their disputes based on the post i wrote but barely know on the subject of dinosaur fossils and paleontology but they quickly wanted to pretend they knew what paleontology was but instead of coming up with a dispute they wanted to ask me questions that a person with enough common sense could figure out.

I want to assure people out their THAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS BASED ON MULTIPLE RESOURCES that I had to read thru to verify by comparing multiple sources. I did not get my info from one link and than claim that OH IT MUST BE RIGHT.

Here is my advise to people wanting to dispute me IF YOU DON'T KNOW PALEONTOLOGY, arguing me isn't going to help you. Don't pretend to be a paleontologist expert or a geology expert but than ask me questions to answers that you should already know. I also advise the so called geology expert pretends on here to realize geology is not paleontology so don't come trying to tell me you are in geology or that a certain geologists said this.

To conclude I will not be responding to any foolhardy questions or disputes on here but if someone has a real question than I will respond because I do not feel like wasting my time as I did not come here to try to convince those who want to be stubborn.

Anyway with this Said. I know you have some questions that need to be answered and I will answer them soon.

So basically you dismiss and ignore everyone's arguments without actually explaining why their arguments are wrong. It makes your position look weak.

Also this thread is about Dinosaur fossils and not plant or shell fossils. The thread is about paleontology and paleontology alone.

LOL, because paleontology is about dinosaur fossils only and plant and shell fossils have nothing to do with paleontology? Since when? Also, you did claim that all fossils are fake, which means that discussion about plant and shell fossils is in fact relevant to the topic. You're just committing the "moving the goalpost" fallacy by running away from discussion about Neanderthal fossils with DNA in them (and other non-dinosaur fossil issues) and saying "No! I was only talking about dinosaurs the whole time! Really!"

 

[Wu Wei]

@Wu Wei
you keep on spamming me with this. I suggest you grow up and when you are ready to debate with adults to not shy way from expressing yourself. On the side note, dinosaurs are fake as ICE CUBE. I'm not into rap but I have seen the documentaries on T.V of how those rappers like to pretend they were gang members and thugs but are only loud mouths who would run away from a simple fight. They also steal others people's music and combine it and try to claim they created the music. You are not only a fan of fake dinosaurs but fake musicians.

The fact is, you are incredibly wrong, as a matter of fact so wrong, I simply cannot take this entire thing seriously. And since you are getting upset, rude and starting to insult others I can only assume your belief in this is a bit shaky...By the way the argumentative bits punctuated with insults is not being adult about this either.

However you are so incredibly invested (for reasons I do not know) in having to be right about this there is no real reason to have any discussion with you on this

As for the Ice Cube reference, he is a real person by the name of O'Shea Jackson, he is not mythical, and he is as real as dinosaurs. His persona is another thing entirely. He is only being used in my posts based on the look on his face which is one of total dismay, which was pretty much mine when I read this topic.

I am not a fan of fake dinosaurs, I am a fan of the dinosaurs that are incredibly real and have been scientifically proven. I am not a fan of pseudo science such as what you have put forth as proof. I am not a fan of rap of if the rap of Ice cube, like I said, it was simply the look on his face that made me post his visage.

You however seem bent on proving dinosaurs are fake based on a few videos that have little or no actual scientific backing, You also seem to be avoidant when others ask you questions about your background or what other proof you have beyond videos you get from YouTube.

So based on that alone I would have to say and adult conversation with you, on this topic, is nigh impossible. Therefore the only logical response to anything you post on this rather ridiculous topic are things like I have previously posted.

You will not change your stance, no matter what anyone post or for that matter no matter who posts; Jack Horner and Robert Bakker could log on and post themselves and produce copious evidence and speak from years of experience on the topic of the reality of Dinosaurs and you would still not change your stance....so one can only assume that "Adult discussion" is not your goal, it is most certainly not possible.

 

[jeager106]

Fossil remains.
What a monumental conspiracy!
I can hardly believe the general public so ignorant as to be taken in by
a group of scientists dedicated in an endeavor to fool the entire world.
How successful these educated people are!
It must have taken a LOT of hard work to bury all those remains inside ROCKS!
And to think that not even one scientist objects!
Those educated people must have been thoroughly brainwashed by
the educational process.
Wow!
But then I believed the t-v show "Mermaids, the new evidence" for a while.

http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/49740/u-s-confirms-existence-of-mermaids/

^^^^^^^^^^^^Really?

 

[jeager106]

Fossil remains are a HUGE hoax fostered upon the world by atheist scientist
to disprove and belittle people of a religious bent.
By the way. I want to make an offer to members here.
I have several acres of swamp land for sale in Florida.
Serious inquiries only please!
Never mind that the swamp land is full of sink holes that are draining
the Everglades.

 

[Segev Moran]

yes. Do you need further explanation. Paleontologists claim that dinosaur and prehistoric animals bones transformed into a sandstone rock sediment skeleton BUT THAT IS virtually impossible as bones can not turn into sandstone. If it were possible than paleontologists would be able to transform a bone into a sandstone fossil using technology and chemicals but they can not. The only way to produce a sandstone rock sediment copy of a skeleton is to use a mold and than pour in wet sand and cement which would produce a sandstone fossil or sandstone skeleton.

The idea that bone can turn into rock is an outrageous claim but the evidence that you can produce a rock sediment skeleton using wet sand and cement after pouring it into a skeleton mold MAKES more sense.

My friend.. you are mistaken..
It is possible... but its a process that takes BILLIONS of years!

 

[Segev Moran]

Radiocarbon datings have known limitations that scientists today wouldn't be so stupid as to use it to date dinosaur fossils.

There are other radiometric dating methods available that they don't use radiocarbon dating.

Why must small-minded creationists only think that radiocarbon dating is the only radiometric dating available?

Such deliberate ignorance from creationists never cease to surprise me with their collective stupidity.

You don't even need any tool! Just go and look at any given cliff.. you'll see the layers upon layers upon layers of land proving the the earth is here for millions of year!
So the dinosaurs would be a really lame way for scientist to prove the earth is old...

 

[Ouroboros]

also I doubt that a fossil owner would let you cut up or break a fossil into pieces. Their are only a few fossils that claim to have pores and they were claimed to be found broken that is according the few amount of links i was able to find.

Hardly. Anthropologist students get to extract bones from rocks themselves, and there are several methods they have to use to identify bone vs rock.

One thing they do, if there is a cut, they can check for pores. Another one is that they lick it. If it's dry, it's bone.

Also, at digs, there are some dinosaur bones that no one cares for anymore. There are so many of them, so common, that they essentially throw them away (not really, but almost, they just leave them in the dirt). Now, it's quite interesting if a bunch of these guys first makes all these fake bones, dig them down into the ground, and then dig them up again, just to throw them away. *rolleyes*

 

[Ignorant Philosopher]

 

[superdestructionyou]

@ADigitalArtist
you are referring to the few of the newer dinosaur fossils that have been discovered . The legitimacy of these so called researches is to be questioned along with the sites these sources are found in. Their are tones of websites online and most have vague information on a subject and most of these sites only agree with what is accepted by most of the so called paleontologists.

Anyway to make this short. The fossils you are showing can be made easily just like a regular fossil. You will not find such pores inside the fossils of the first dinosaurs fossils found by joseph leidy, o.c march, edward cope who worked with each other to create the first dinosaur fossils. The pictures you are showing are pictures found online and legitimacy is questioned as anyone who owns a site can publish anything and photoshop anything. I know this because I 've owned a bunch of sites and can photo manipuate many pictures.

anyone can create such fossil and I wouldn't be suprised if the person publishing the fossil testing isn't working along with the paleontologist scam artist and making up false researches to try to increase the price of the fossils. I read that some fossils went up to 3 million when they were sold by the paleontologist. So just because someone publishes something online or on the news the finding needs to be verified by multiple independent parties which is sadly not done at all.

Also anyone can add a little chicken grease or spill a chicken piece while making the fossil.

 

[McBell]

I know this because I 've owned a bunch of sites and can photo manipuate many pictures.

Are you saying that you photoshopped pictures to put on your website(s)?

 

[superdestructionyou]

@ADigitalArtist this, dinosaur fossil, can easily be done with molds and sand as well.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Anyway to make this short. The fossils you are showing can be made easily just like a regular fossil.

Then go do it, and do keep us updated on how this all works out for you.

 

[superdestructionyou]

Then go do it, and do keep us updated on how this all works out for you.

looks like i keep popping a nerve in you.

 

[superdestructionyou]

@ADigitalArtist also found this dinosaur fossil with pores online but that can be created as well and most sand and cement statues
in the inside or when they are deteriorating getting old or if they are poorly made

stone statues below

this is cement pores

 

[Shadow Wolf]

looks like i keep popping a nerve in you.

No. If it is really that easy, I am suggesting that you go prove it. There is some money and fame involved. Go find it. And do keep us posted as to what events unfold.