Diversity the Prisons, Make Them Look More Like the U.S.!

[Revoltingest]

Half of all Americans are women… yet only 7% of inmates are women. Do you feel women are “under-represented” in prison? Is systemic-sexism responsible for the “over-representation” of men in prison?

It could very well be that women treated better
by the legal system than men. Note that the
greatest percentage of any group killed by cops
isn't blacks....it's men. 95% killed are men.

 

[Estro Felino]

It could very well be that women treated better
by the legal system than men. Note that the
greatest percentage of any group killed by cops
isn't blacks....it's men. 95% killed are men.

Another monstrous thing of the criminal (and the penal) system in the US is that in the eyes of the aforementioned system, a robber who robbed because he was poor is equivalent to a serial killer.
Is it normal?

We have different detention systems according to the seriousness of the crime.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Because the system is intentionally designed to insulate and protect them.


Why Elite White-Collar Criminals Are Rarely Punished

Even if true that does not support your claim. Did you forget what you claimed already?

 

[Aštra’el]

There is just a bit of truth to this. The problem is that for the impoverished the only apparent way out for some is through crime. This is a "blame the victim" approach that you are using. If instead we improved education and increased opportunities "thug life" would soon die on its own.

I am all for programs designed to help impoverished Americans... within reason. I would rather see money go towards pulling our own people of the gutter, then sent to other countries like Ukraine or wherever.

One obvious problem that I see is that so many people want to pretend as if poor blacks are the only ones in America who suffer from poverty. Poor whites are often ignored and commonly ridiculed as “white trash”, deserving of mockery, while blacks suffering from the same circumstances are seen as deserving of compassion and understanding.

No. If we are going to help the poor, we help everybody. The poor whites, the poor blacks, the poor latinos… all of them.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I am all for programs designed to help impoverished Americans... within reason. I would rather see money go towards pulling our own people of the gutter, then sent to other countries like Ukraine or wherever.

One obvious problem that I see is that so many people want to pretend as if poor blacks are the only ones in America who suffer from poverty. Poor whites are often ignored and commonly ridiculed as “white trash”, deserving of mockery, while blacks suffering from the same circumstances are seen as deserving of compassion and understanding.

No. If we are going to help the poor, we help everybody. The poor whites, the poor blacks, the poor latinos… all of them.

I agree that the only basis for such programs should be need. But you will find a much higher percentage of African Americans in the need category than white people. Sadly institutionalized racism is a real thing.

 

[Brickjectivity]

It does happen in the EU.

But here in Europe there is not a plutocratic pyramidal system that tends to idolize the most moneyed classes, for the sake of a Darwinistic law of the fittest.

Absolutely not! Its one large field of tulips. I've seen the pictures, but it can't compare with 1960's USA, which is such a great place.

 

[Revoltingest]

...in the eyes of the aforementioned system, a robber who robbed because he was poor is equivalent to a serial killer.

Really?
First I ever heard of that legal standard.
Color me skeptical.

 

[Estro Felino]

Really?
First I ever heard of that legal standard.
Color me skeptical.

Can a burglar and a murderous mobster be in the same cell, in the US?

 

[Revoltingest]

Can a burglar and a murderous mobster be in the same cell, in the US?

Asking a question like that
doesn't address your claim.

 

[Estro Felino]

Asking a question like that
doesn't address your claim.

Considering that OJ Simpson got away with murder because of a team of money-hungry attorneys, while burglars stay in prison for long time...because they can't afford an attorney.
well...the US system is: plutocracy in prison too.

 

[Revoltingest]

Considering that OJ Simpson....

Jury verdicts are unpredictable things.
But this doesn't support your claim either.

 

[Estro Felino]

Jury verdicts are unpredictable things.
But this doesn't support your claim either.

If you don't answer my questions, I move on to another topic.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Even if true that does not support your claim. Did you forget what you claimed already?

Yea and I stand by it. Problem is criminal acts are actually legal by customized laws tailored for the elites.

Biggest one is corporations have been exempted to pay any taxes. Zero. Na da.

Second are scams like compounding and sanctioned gouging of products and services. Essentially robbing people legally.

Healthcare is a prime example of legalized robbery.

That's what I mean by it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Considering that OJ Simpson got away with murder because of a team of money-hungry attorneys, while burglars stay in prison for long time...because they can't afford an attorney.
well...the US system is: plutocracy in prison too.

It's an eye-opener when comparing length of prison sentences with the US, and other first world countries.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yea and I stand by it. Problem is criminal acts are actually legal by customized laws tailored for the elites.

Biggest one is corporations have been exempted to pay any taxes. Zero. Na da.

Second are scams like compounding and sanctioned gouging of products and services. Essentially robbing people legally.

Healthcare is a prime example of legalized robbery.

That's what I mean by it.

Wait, you are for government health care? I thought that was "socialism"? Also you can "stand" by your claim, but the fact is that you did not support it.

 

[Estro Felino]

It's an eye-opener when comparing length of prison sentences with the US, and other first world countries.

We have a code. For each crime, there's a minimum and a maximum of detention years.
If the judge disregards the code and violates that maximum, they get suspended and sanctioned. Immediately.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Wait, you are for government health care? I thought that was "socialism"? Also you can "stand" by your claim, but the fact is that you did not support it.

I don't confuse political socialism with social programs like a lot of people routinely do.

 

[Revoltingest]

If you don't answer my questions, I move on to another topic.

That works for me.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't confuse political socialism with social programs like a lot of people routinely do.

In other words cherry picking.

 

[Twilight Hue]

In other words cherry picking.

No. Stating the fact.