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Divine Omnipresence

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Dude, you don't even understand how you're mixing up terms, but you expect me to just accept other explanations?
OK....this is not a debate forum...you have issues with the OP content...fine, understood, no problems....all the best my friend and God bless.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Ahhh...but you are a pantheist and already understand this...disciple on the other holds, if I understand his position correctly, that pantheists are mistaken because there is no cosmic omnipresence.

I do not claim to understand some acronym of thingies that describes itself recursively.

I just understand omniscience in terms of pantheism.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Ahhh...but you are a pantheist and already understand this...disciple on the other holds, if I understand his position correctly, that pantheists are mistaken because there is no cosmic omnipresence.

Look up omnipresence....it doesn't mean pantheism....it isn't the 'same' meaning.

And, no, you don't understand my position at all.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
I do not claim to understand some acronym of thingies that describes itself recursively.

I just understand omniscience in terms of pantheism.
Fine...fwiw when my mind apprehends directly the reality represented by the zpe cosmic essence...it naturally resonates in a state of awesome bliss...no greater way to exist. The understanding though of the zpe came only after much reading over the years which ultimately formed the prerequisite understanding to allow the synthesis to bring about the apprehension.
 
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Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Fine...fwiw when my mind apprehends directly the reality represented by the zpe cosmic essence...it naturally resonates in a state of awesome bliss...no greater way to exist. The understanding though of the zpe came only after much reading over the years which ultimately formed the prerequisite understanding to allow the synthesis to bring about the apprehension.

For what it's worth, when I understand that my "mind" is not distinct from the objects perceived that compose it, there is no greater way to exist. :)
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Look up omnipresence....it doesn't mean pantheism....it isn't the 'same' meaning.

And, no, you don't understand my position at all.
Haha...for now you are only using your mind in duality gear, fyi there is a way of apprehending the reality represented by the concept of omnipresence, but to do that you will need to learn to develop a higher faculty of mind...

Please understand that the concept is not the real, the definition is not the real, the real can only be apprehended when the mind is at one with that which the concept represents. Concepts are like a labels...understanding the labels is a prerequisite step to deeper understanding...but conceptual knowledge is not the end of the potential of mind.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Haha...for now you are only using your mind in duality gear, fyi there is a way of apprehending the reality represented by the concept of omnipresence, but to do that you will need to learn to develop a higher faculty of mind...

Please understand that the concept is not the real, the definition is not the real, the real can only be apprehended when the mind is at one with that which the concept represents. Concepts are like a labels...understanding the labels is a prerequisite step to deeper understanding...but conceptual knowledge is not the end of the potential of mind.


Did you look up the terms?:rolleyes:
"higher faculty of mind":biglaugh:
If you looked up the definitions and realized you were using the incorrect terminology, that's fine...but to say the words that you yourself are using are subjective to your definition is ridiculous.
good-bye.:D
 
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