Do Black Lives Matter More or Less Now?

[Sonofason]

Were you always so open, or is this something new? Is this your "coming out" party or some such thing?




Benefits? What benefit do you think a roll up of ignorance, prejudice, fear and stupidity confers?

The benefit is that I will not tolerate, nor listen to, nor do anything in my power to support or accommodate members and advocates of the BLM movement. And that will benefit everyone.

 

[Sonofason]

This post confirms that you're a complete piece of **** and offer nothing of value. You deserve to be shot to death by cops.

They will never shoot me, because I don't ever break the law. Contrary to all members and advocates of the BLM movement, I am respectful to the law, and everyone who tries to uphold the law. You on the other hand would be a far more likely candidate to be shot to death by cops. And of course, because you are so disrespectful to people that do not share your atheistic beliefs, I wouldn't care a bit if you were.

 

[psychoslice]

To me all life matters, be that black white pink or blue, why separate yourself from others thinking your special.

 

[Oeste]

To me all life matters, be that black white pink or blue, why separate yourself from others thinking your special.

I agree, and in a perfect world, all lives would matter. The problem is that in our current society, some lives are more special than others. It’s like asking Martin Luther King in 1963 “All people have equal rights, why separate yourself from others by thinking your rights are special?”

Once thing of interest:

Media on the right tends to read “Black Lives Matter” as “Only Black Lives Matter” whereas media on the left tends to read it as “Black Lives Matter Too”. In other words, the right appears to be saying the Black Lives movements is attempting to elevate black lives above all other lives, so that they are special, whereas the left appears to be saying the Black Lives movement is attempting to elevate black lives to where they are just as special as everyone else. Then we have the "mainstream media" which does a poor job of explaining things at all.

In other words, how Americans tend to think of the BLM movement is generally a reflection of the news outlets they listen to.

 

[psychoslice]

I agree, and in a perfect world, all lives would matter. The problem is that in our current society, some lives are more special than others. It’s like asking Martin Luther King in 1963 “All people have equal rights, why separate yourself from others by thinking your rights are special?”

Once thing of interest:

Media on the right tends to read “Black Lives Matter” as “Only Black Lives Matter” whereas media on the left tends to read it as “Black Lives Matter Too”. In other words, the right appears to be saying the Black Lives movements is attempting to elevate black lives above all other lives, so that they are special, whereas the left appears to be saying the Black Lives movement is attempting to elevate black lives to where they are just as special as everyone else. Then we have the "mainstream media" which does a poor job of explaining things at all.

In other words, how Americans tend to think of the BLM movement is generally a reflection of the news outlets they listen to.

That maybe so, but why even bring up that you matter, we all matter, we need to get rid of this black and white mentality and see each other as one, stuff the color!!.

 

[Oeste]

FWIW, I don’t think Black lives will matter until all lives matter, and we just aren’t there yet. I’m certainly not “anti-police”, and the BLM movement has gone out of its way to state time and time again they are not “anti-police” either. However, we do have police who seem to believe that all blacks are criminals (like one of the posters here) just as we have those in the community who think the police are there to find excuses to kill as many black citizens as possible.

This will not change until we put the resources to better educate our law enforcement officers, stop militarizing our police force, allow more community input and demand better and more responsive community policing. Also, asking officers to report other officers who act crazy is just crazy. I think body cams in some areas are a step in the right direction. There are bad officer there; we just need to get rid of them.

But these resources can’t just remain with the police. There must be outreach into black urban communities so that we don’t have people thinking they can grab a shotgun and shoot the very people who are working hard to protect them. If I think of law enforcement as an occupational force within my community, I’m not going to report a problem to a police officer. However, I just may report it to a community liaison officer, especially if I know my community has a voice and can wield a certain degree of oversight on community policing. Yes, there are bad people in our communities; we just need to get them off the streets and allow the rest of our communities to thrive.

Rather than rushing to take a side, we should be rushing to help each other. But now that everybody’s got their bristles up, I think I’ve found a video that everyone here can enjoy:

 

[Oeste]

That maybe so, but why even bring up that you matter, we all matter, we need to get rid of this black and white mentality and see each other as one, stuff the color!!.

I believe you're right, but I see that as our American goal and not as a destination already achieved.

 

[psychoslice]

I believe you're right, but I see that as our American goal and not as a destination already achieved.

It will never happen as long as we see color.

 

[Oeste]

It will never happen as long as we see color.

I couldn't agree with you more. It was nice talking with you psychoslice. These tired eyes are going to bed. Have a great day and I look forward to hearing more from you on the forum.

 

[psychoslice]

I couldn't agree with you more. It was nice talking with you psychoslice. These tired eyes are going to bed. Have a great day and I look forward to hearing more from you on the forum.

Ah, thank you, I look forward to hearing from you also, goodnight.

 

[Sakeenah]

Yes, I am very open about my racism, and that will never be changed. I am now a permanent racist. And you will all live with that, and reap the benefits of it.
And I will do my best to persuade all people to be racist as I am.

I pity you, it's sad to see someone live a life with so much hatred in his heart.Racism says more about the person who is a racist than the person the racism is directed at.

 

[Sonofason]

I pity you, it's sad to see someone live a life with so much hatred in his heart.Racism says more about the person who is a racist than the person the racism is directed at.

I'm sorry, but I don't have any hatred for anyone because of their race. But I do see deficiencies in the minds of certain individuals that does seem to be distributed along racial lines. Who would vote for a person because of their skin color? Well, the blacks all did when Obama ran for office. Laughably, they didn't show up this election, and look at you poor sobs now. Thankfully, I am not trying, nor do I intend to please you.

 

[dawny0826]

Do you think since the beginning of the BLM movement that black lives matter more, less, or the same to non-black people, in general? Has it been an effective movement in making progress on its purported goals.

Speaking for myself, it's been effective in the sense that it's opened the door to meaningful conversations and educational opportunities that have changed my views on white privilege and its impact on blacks and others. The movement at the core of its principles, is honorable and necessary.

Unfortunately, it's muddied by idiot people who do and say idiot things. That includes some of its own "followers", who claim support of the movement while vandalizing or acting violently. That includes those who don't understand the movement, don't want to and spew falsifications about it. The people with something meaningful to say aren't heard loudly enough.

 

[dawny0826]

Son, don't even try to parallel the BLM movement with MLK, it's disrespectful.

I don't think so. BLM just needs to "fire" some its supporters.

 

[psychoslice]

For me personally they never matted, all life is important, black, white, green, or whatever, why make a big song and dance about your own color ?.

 

[Jackrabbti]

For me personally they never matted, all life is important, black, white, green, or whatever, why make a big song and dance about your own color ?.

Song and dance? Like the song and dance at the last Superbowl celebrating the color black and black supremacy (as dumb as that is)?

Race is more than skin deep.

 

[Oeste]

But I do see deficiencies in the minds of certain individuals that does seem to be distributed along racial lines.

With all due respect Sonofson, the only “deficiencies” I see that “seem to be distributed along racial lines” have been in some of the rants posts I've read here.

Who would vote for a person because of their skin color? Well, the blacks all did when Obama ran for office.

Yes, blacks ran and voted for Obama because he was black, just like they did Jesse Jackson and Shirley Chisolm before, and Ben Carson after.

Has it ever occurred to you that blacks in this country have voted many more times for white candidates than they have for black ones, while the converse is not true? Yes, there are many reasons for this, but sometimes it just helps to point out the obvious.

Laughably, they didn't show up this election, and look at you poor sobs now. Thankfully, I am not trying, nor do I intend to please you.

This is a debate forum. No one has to please anyone here, but I'm sure you'll agree it helps when we post assertions with width and breadth, rather than rift and breath.

 

[Oeste]

Song and dance? Like the song and dance at the last Superbowl celebrating the color black and black supremacy (as dumb as that is)?

I did not see a “black supremacy” celebration at the Superbowl.

What I did see was Beyonce's tribute to the black power movement, which, if you study American history close enough, had its seed in a white power movement that began with the signing of the Constitution (3/5ths compromise and Fugitive Slave Act) centuries earlier.

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In fact, I seriously doubt there would have ever been a black power movement had there been no slavery or racial bias in our schools, government, politicians, military, religious institutions, and dinner tables. The question for me is not why the black power movement began in the 1960’s, it’s really why it didn’t begin sooner.

Race is more than skin deep.

Race is a cultural and not a genetic concept. There is only one race, and that race is human.

Paul was correct when he wrote:

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female; for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28​