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Do Christians and Muslims go to the same Heaven?

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Proverbs 14:12 There is a way that seems right to a man,+
But in the end it leads to death.
Not true. Nothing disapears. Nothing appears/created from nothing. We have many "beliefs." People in scipture not excluded. They do not always represent "fact."

I respect your belief. I think that is why they are called beliefs, though. To claim it as fact would not make sense to millions of people who do not see what fraction of what christians hold true. Were not the "center of the universe." Im acually surprised after thousands of years we (not just some christians) still think we are.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
My understanding is that at the earliest levels of the afterlife experience there is separation in that we are united with those we knew on earth and in our soul group in an environment that carries cultural differences. But the higher one goes in the spiritual worlds, separation diminishes until All is One. So the Christian God and Allah are the same thing.
 
Allah SWT are arabic name for God..............

Allah SWT are God of Abraham & Adam............

Sabian arab,muslim arab,christian arab & judaism arab call God name with Allah SWT.............

in islam faith first generation of christian are muslim ..........they are reject trinity & accept God Is One (Tawhid)........He Is Allah SWT & prophet Jesus is God messenger like adam,noah & abraham.......

and until today non-trinity christian still exist.......

they will enter jannah paradise..........if God Willing.......
 
christian heaven is boring place.............sorry

Islam Paradise..........Jannah

Throughout our lives, we strive to believe in and serve Allah, with the ultimate goal of being admitted to heaven (jannah). We hope that our eternal lives will be spent there, so of course people are curious about what it is like. Only Allah knows, but He describes some of it for us in the Quran. What will heaven be like?

Pleasure of Allah
Of course, the greatest reward in Heaven is receiving Allah's pleasure and mercy. This honor is saved for those who believe in Allah and strive to live in accordance with His guidance. The Quran says:

"Say: Shall I give you glad tidings of things Far better than those? For the righteous are Gardens in nearness to their Lord... and the good pleasure of Allah. For in Allah's sight are (all) His servants" (3:15).
"Allah will say: This is a day in which the truthful will profit from their truth. Theirs are gardens, with rivers flowing beneath - their eternal Home. Allah is well-pleased with them, and they with Allah. That is the great salvation" (5:119).
Greetings of "Peace!"
Those who enter Heaven will be greeted by angels with words of peace. In Heaven, one will have only positive emotions and experiences; there will be no hatred, anger, or upset of any kind.

"And We shall remove from their breasts any hatred or sense of injury" (Quran 7:43).
"Gardens of perpetual bliss: they shall enter there, as well as the righteous among their fathers, their spouses, and their offspring. Angels shall enter from every gate (with the salutation): 'Peace be with you, that you persevered in patience! Now how excellent is the final home!" (Quran 13:23-24).
“They will not hear therein ill speech or commission of sin. But only the saying of: 'Peace! Peace!'" (Quran 56:25-26).

Gardens
The most significant description of heaven is as a beautiful garden, filled with greenery and flowing water. In fact the Arabic word, jannah, means "garden."

"But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is gardens, beneath which rivers flow" (2:25).
"Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous" (3:133)
"Allah hath promised to Believers, men and women, gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the good pleasure of Allah. That is the supreme felicity" (9:72).

Family & Companions
Both men and women will be admitted to Heaven, and many families will reunite. "... Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female. You are members, one of another..." (3:195).
"Gardens of perpetual bliss: They shall enter there, as well as the righteous among their fathers, their spouses, and their offspring. Angels shall enter to them from every gate (with the salutation): 'Peace be with you because you persevered in patience! Now how excellent is the final home!'" (13:23-24)
"And whoever obeys God and the Messenger – those will be with the ones upon whom God has bestowed favor – of the prophets, the steadfast affirmers of truth, the martyrs and the righteous. And excellent are those as companions!" (Quran 4:69).

Thrones of Dignity
In Heaven, every comfort will be afforded. The Quran describes: "They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks..." (52:20).
"They and their associates will be in groves of (cool) shade, reclining on Thrones (of dignity). Every fruit (enjoyment) will be there for them; they shall have whatever they call for" (36:56-57).
"In a lofty Paradise, where they shall neither hear harmful speech nor falsehood. Therein will be a running spring. Therein will be thrones raised high, and cups set at hand. And cushions set in rows, and rich carpets (all) spread out" (88:10-16).

Food & Drink
The Quran's description of Heaven includes plentiful food and drink, without any feelings of satiation or intoxication. "... Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: 'Why, this is what we were fed before,' for they are given things in similitude..." (2:25).
"Therein you shall have (all) that your inner‑selves desire, and therein you shall have all for which you ask. An entertainment from Allah, the Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful” (41:31-32).
“Eat and drink at ease for that which you have sent forth (good deeds) in days past!” (69:24).
“... rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes...” (Quran 47:15).

Eternal Home
In Islam, Heaven is understood to be a place of everlasting life. "But those who have faith and work righteousness, they are companions of the garden. Therein shall they abide forever" (2:82).
"For such the reward is forgiveness from their Lord, and Gardens with rivers flowing underneath - an eternal dwelling. How excellent a recompense for those who work (and strive)!" (3:136).

How Is Heaven (Jannah) Described in the Quran?

Ibn al-Qayyim said, in regards to the description of the Paradise and the delights that it contains:

"And if you ask about its ground and its soil, then it is of musk and saffron.

And if you ask about its roof, then it is the Throne of the Most Merciful.

And if you ask about its rocks, then they are pearls and jewels.

And if you ask about its buildings, then they are made of bricks of gold and silver.

And if you ask about its trees, then it does not contain a single tree except that its trunk is made of gold and silver.

And if you ask about its fruits, then they are softer than butter and sweeter than honey.

And if you ask about its leaves, then they are softer than the softest cloth.

And if you ask about its rivers, then there are rivers of milk who's taste does not change, and rivers of wine that is delicious to those who drink it, and rivers of honey that is pure, and rivers of water that is fresh.

And if you ask about their food, then it is fruits from whatever they will choose, and the meat of whatever birds they desire.

And if you ask about their drink, then it is Tasneem, ginger, and Kaafoor.

And if you ask about their drinking cups, then they are crystal-clear and made of gold and silver.

And if you ask about its shade, then a fast rider would ride in the shade of one of its trees for a hundred years and not escape it.

And if you ask about its vastness, then the lowest of its people would have within his kingdom and walls and palaces and gardens the distance that would be travelled in a thousand years.

And if you ask about its tents and encampments, then one tent is like a concealed pearl that is sixty miles long.

And if you ask about its towers, then they are rooms above rooms in buildings that have rivers running underneath them.

And if you ask about how far it reaches into the sky, then look at the shining star that is visible, as well as those that are far in the heavens that the eyesight cannot possibly reach.

And if you ask about the clothing of its inhabitants, then they are of silk and gold.

And if you ask about its beds, then its blankets are of the finest silk laid out in the highest of its levels.

And if you ask about the faces of its inhabitants and their beauty, then they are like the image of the Moon.

And if you ask about their age, then they are young ones of 33 years in the image of Adam, the father of humanity.

And if you ask about what they will be hearing, then it is the singing of their wives from among the Hoor al-'Ayn, and better than that are the voices of the Angels and the Prophets, and better than that is the Speech of the Lord of the Worlds.

No death, No sadness, No Sickness, No Fear, No Boring Feeling,No fatigue, always young........in islamic heaven..........all people will live in eternal happiness for eternity in jannah

you want dragon as pet, you want super power like spiderman & superman, you want mecha like Gundam.........all your dream & wish will coming true..

but the highest reward in paradise are...........you can meet The Creator of Universe Allah SWT........

Seeing Allah and talking to Him:

It is reported that Allah will ask the people of Paradise, if they desire anything and they will reply what more can we want, we have Paradise! Allah will then lift his veil and the people of Paradise will see Allah's face and it will be the most beautiful thing they have ever seen and the happiest moment they ever experienced! (Sahih Hadith)


“Some faces that Day shall be Nadirah (shining and radiant).

Looking at their Lord (Allah).”

[al-Qiyaamah :22-23].

 

Kirran

Premium Member
Peace be on you.
"" Holy Quran:

" Surely, the Believers, and the Jews, and the Christians and the Sabians — whichever party from among these truly believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good deeds — shall have their reward with their Lord, and no fear shall come upon them, nor shall they grieve."
[2:63]

Islam is pinnacle of evolution of religions, all previous true religions are acknowledged by Islam.

Those pious people of Book, to whom message of Islam is not well reached and they practice the true part of their religion, they are blessed. This blessing may lead them to Islam one day.

Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be on him) is for all world and all humanity and Islam's God is Lord of all worlds and all humanity.""

#2 @ Salvation in Islam: Does Islam condemn all non Muslims to Hell? | ReligiousForums.com

What is happening in Middle east is not even 'h' of humanity !!

And Hindus?
 

SkylarHunter

Active Member
They all go to that "heaven" where the worms eat what's left of they bodies until they disappear completely, unless they were cremated.
 

JayJayDee

Avid JW Bible Student
So you are saying the Christian god and Allah isn't the same god?

I am saying that we have an explanation for why there are so many diverse faiths, worshiping many different gods in the world. Considering that we have only one Creator...we need to know how this happened and why it was permitted.

The Bible tells us that, in the beginning of human life, there was no reason for anyone to go to heaven. Humans were created to live on earth forever. The only cause of death was disobedience to one simple command. A rebel son of God made himself an enemy of the Creator by becoming a substitute god, a pretender who wants to be worshiped. He led humans into disobedience by lying about the Creator's motives and promoting independence from him, knowing that he would cause them to lose their relationship with him. He has been lying to humans ever since.

After the defection, he gradually created all manner of false gods and beliefs to lead people away from the one true faith and the one true God. He is the god to whom the majority of people are giving their worship without even knowing it. His MO is deception on a scale that most people cannot imagine.

We all have the same opportunity to find the true God, but it all depends on what we as individuals are seeking. We either want a god (or gods) who perform what we consider to be right for us, or we are seeking the interests of the Creator who may require us to go against popular belief and become the target of opposition. Most people will worship....as long as it doesn't cost them anything but money.
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
And Hindus?
Peace be on you.
The word Hindu is not explicitly used but then there maybe other such religions too which according to Ahmadiyya Muslim understanding began with One God then changed over the time.

"....Studying the religions of India, we find the Shri Krishna, of all the spiritual luminaries of India, was of a truth, the greatest. None of the Vedi Rishis and Avtars could equal him in grandeur and glory. Krishna received his light from heaven, cleansed the Aryavarta of all sins and guided his people unto the right path. The Holy Prophet has said. “In India, there had been a prophet of swarthy complexion, he was called Kahin."....."
The Promised Messiah - Prophecies Fulfilled

and

".....Krishna as can easily be identified as just another prophet of God, no different from those who appeared before or after him throughout the recorded history of religion....."
Hinduism

Thus

Holy Quran:

" Surely, the Believers, and the Jews, and the Christians and the Sabians — whichever party from among these truly believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good deeds — shall have their reward with their Lord, and no fear shall come upon them, nor shall they grieve." [2:63]

does include all of those who believed in the true part of their faith, if one extends the definition of 'the Believers'.
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
So the Muslims who decapitate Christians and the Christians themselves go to the same Heaven?
Any one who call himself whatever, but practices to destroy rights of God and rights of humanity [which is the essence of all true teaching of all religions form God] is obviously is not doing good so how can they go to paradise?
 
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arthra

Baha'i
Some Christians and Muslims claim that the Christian god and Allah are the same god. Considering that some Muslims are treating some Christians rather badly, Growing Trend in Mideast: Muslims Beheading Christians | United with Israel, the question for debate is: Are there separate Heavens, do these Christians and Muslims get separate areas in the same Heaven or do they mingle? If so, might that not create some tension?

In the Baha'i Writings there is one heaven... nearness to God...that can be experienced in this life and the next. If you are spiritually close to someone in this life you will continue to be close to them in the next.

"Moreover, as people in this world are in need of God, they will also need Him in the other world. The creatures are always in need, and God is absolutely independent, whether in this world or in the world to come. The wealth of the other world is nearness to God"

~ Abdu'l-Baha
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Both of them would believe their religion is the true one, so just imagine what their heaven would be like, fighting and arguing over who is right and who is wrong, it would be a hell.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Not true. Nothing disapears. Nothing appears/created from nothing. We have many "beliefs." People in scipture not excluded. They do not always represent "fact."

I respect your belief. I think that is why they are called beliefs, though. To claim it as fact would not make sense to millions of people who do not see what fraction of what christians hold true. Were not the "center of the universe." Im acually surprised after thousands of years we (not just some christians) still think we are.

actually i dont think its for us to say what happens to us at death. How would any of us know???

Thats why i choose to accept the biblical explanation of it all.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Both of them would believe their religion is the true one, so just imagine what their heaven would be like, fighting and arguing over who is right and who is wrong, it would be a hell.

ha, yeah

I believe hell would be more peaceful then a place where they all end up together. :D
 

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
Anyone who says La Ilaha ill Allah with honesty goes to Heaven by the will of Allah.

As for christians that blaspheme Allah by saying Allah is Three, or Allah came on earth as incarnated human form, or Allah has a son, they are disbelieving polytheists.
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
Anyone who says La Ilaha ill Allah with honesty goes to Heaven by the will of Allah.

As for christians that blaspheme Allah by saying Allah is Three, or Allah came on earth as incarnated human form, or Allah has a son, they are disbelieving polytheists.
OK, thanks for a precise and clear answer. Now:

1. Is the Christian god and Allah the same god?
2. Is there one heaven for Christians and one for Muslims?
3. Is there one hell for Christians and one for Muslims?
4. Do Christians and Muslims go to different places in the same heaven?
5. If there is only one heaven and that's the Muslim one, do your Christian disbelievers go to Muslim hell?

I just want to figure out the exact logistics. How many heavens there are, how many hells and who goes where.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
actually i dont think its for us to say what happens to us at death. How would any of us know???

Thats why i choose to accept the biblical explanation of it all.
We dont. I accept the Buddha's explanation. It just makes perfect sense. The Buddha "came back" and told his disciples "you think Ive entered extinction but (paraphasing) I have not. The Buddha is always here preaching the Law so that others may become enlightened"

I always felt the need to help others on their spiritual path. Many people are uncomfortable with thinking of the afterlife. That is one result of the Buddha became enlightened among others that came from it, is that he came to an understanding of life and death within cause and affect.

You may have heared it expressed in the four noble truths...the Buddha came to terms that

1 there is suffering. When he associated with people who suffered and tried to be on their level given he was a rich prince, found that

2 this suffering has a cause. We see it all the time but we cant always cure what is meant to be. He continues that

3. there is a way to end suffering. Christian leave that up tl God. Buddhist until themselves. Mahayana Buddhist (I have this belief but not a formal buddhist) say we have a pure and clean nature/wisdom of the Buddha (the nature of life) but it is covered by our attachments such as ego, illusions, even our beliefs! One Zen Buddhist said, Kill the Buddha! There is "nothing special about Buddhism. There is no happy feeling one gets from life in direct relation to practices--the feelings are not meant to be the purpose of our practice, in other words.

4. The last the Buddha said there is an end to suffering. He found this simple end in the eightfold path (i wont expand, its long.)

So life and death are one continuum when following the Buddha. There is a sense of "passing" but not heaven nor hell. They call it nirvana when all attachment have gone. I honestly think that is what Jesus and other prophets in the Bible were teaching: how to disatach oneself from their sinful actions, their self idolotry, and worship the one true God. Christianity is an eastern faith. In laymans terms it just means dying to Self, living a full life or salvation. with God by accepting His has hand in practice/obedience (Muslim and Judiasm) or by accepting Him through His Son in christianity as to the be chosen to wait for the Messiah or in christianity, the promise of being born into a new life resurrected, to be one with God or Allah or Jesus.

I feel that is what heaven in scripture would be, living on (not the buddha way) to be with God. Revelations talks about earthly things in heaven, gold path ways, jewels, etc. I also feel heaven is a state of mind. Being a Buddha is heaven. It is hard to look at the present, in my view, when we are always hoping for a better future.

We dont know. Being a Buddha means we are comfortable with that. Why not other religions the same?

Thank you for reading this. Have to get ready for work. Will be on little later.
 
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