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Do Christians Secretly Believe Jesus Walks Among Us?

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Sumadji

Active Member
Jimmy said:
So you think Jesus visits earth in different forms from time to time?
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I believe Christ is always with us. 'He' is always here for anyone who is open. In the sense that the Christ is the bridge between man and God, between nature and spirit. In any faith.

But I also believe there are ascended beings who do live amongst mortals, to fulfill the Boddisattva vow which is not to enter heaven until all sentient beings are free. May I quote a passage from a book here?

Somewhere there is a small white stone, and he who swallows it lives forever. It
is always there, on the far side of the mountains; it is always here, in the heart.

Burning sand, no name, no past -- the desert, the desert and the desert. Seek ye
the centre? Measure the circle. Seek ye the circle? Find ye the centre.

Grandeur of vast desert sky: red sunset clouds, gold, molten purple -- indigo
cathedral dome, pale crescent moon.

Footprints in the sand.

A single star falls, then another. Stars rain from space.

From time to time there comes to man a brief vision of truth, like the
momentary flash of ocean or sky, quickly lost but never forgotten -- a shining
corner of truth revealed as by a cloak momentarily swept aside in passing, or as
the light from a passing coach that falls upon the face of a beggar by the
roadside and makes him realize how filthy and wretched he has become, and
gives him some comfort and hope of better, if only for an instant.

Returned immortal from Coreyan he sees no longer human faces but only the
spirit within. He is beyond the hold of any human power. He has left the world
of man. He does not have to eat or sleep. He is able to manifest many bodies in
different places at the same time.

He might appear as a stranger, as a man, woman or child, to offer help to one in
need. He can turn stones to diamonds.

He may appear at a place where some evil event is to occur, perhaps an accident
or suicide, and by his presence prevent it, and then walk away, allowing his
body to disappear, having completed its task of the moment.

He is not the only one. There are other immortals amongst us.

They are human beings who have conquered human death, yet they remain in
the world to ease the lives of those who cannot yet understand -- who suffer and
die, and who cause suffering to other creatures upon their world, thus
continuing their own cycle of suffering and death, for if one part of the body is
damaged, it affects the whole being.

As healing hands of Eloih are the immortal ones, pushing back sorrow and
diverting streams of suffering amongst all living creatures, seeing only the
living heart of each one.

Less than angels, knowing well the trials of this world, as a child may best
understand how to help another child, their task is endless.

But they are always amongst us.
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IamYourYahaweh

Member
Jimmy said:
Jealousy greed gluttony sloth envy murder rape etc
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Jealousy is what drives us to become better and show us what we want. Life is greedy, all of it, even babies, for life to exist then nothingness can't exist. Murder is bad yet mother nature does it constantly. And mankind has had to do many murders to get you to your place today and myself. So if murder is bad then we should just sit back while all the power hungry people murder us? Gluttony is the enjoyment of delicious foods, should we not feed our souls and feel enriched? Never give in to small temptations like these will create a ticking time bomb. And sloth? Who doesn't love to be lazy and relaxed and not feel the pressure to do anything? If slothing didn't exist then people would be way too driven and cause even more harmful things.

Do you have any ideas of your own on what is bad that wasn't written down in scripture? Also God kind of raped Mary to make Jesus it seems.
 
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IamYourYahaweh

Member
Jimmy said:
Jealousy greed gluttony sloth envy murder rape etc
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Jealousy is what drives us to become better and show us what we want. Life is greedy, all of it, even babies, for life to exist then nothingness can't exist. Murder is bad yet mother nature does it constantly. And mankind has had to do many murders to get you to your place today and myself. So if murder is bad then we should just sit back while all the power hungry people murder us? Gluttony is the enjoyment of delicious foods, should we not feed our souls and feel enriched? Never give in to small temptations like these will create a ticking time bomb. And sloth? Who doesn't love to be lazy and relaxed and not feel the pressure to do anything? If slothing didn't exist then people would be way too driven and cause even more harmful things.

Do you have any ideas of your own on what is bad that wasn't written down in scripture? Also God kind of raped Mary to make Jesus it seems.
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
IamYourYahaweh said:
Jealousy is what drives us to become better and show us what we want. Life is greedy, all of it, even babies, for life to exist then nothingness can't exist. Murder is bad yet mother nature does it constantly. And mankind has had to do many murders to get you to your place today and myself. So if murder is bad then we should just sit back while all the power hungry people murder us? Gluttony is the enjoyment of delicious foods, should we not feed our souls and feel enriched? Never give in to small temptations like these will create a ticking time bomb. And sloth? Who doesn't love to be lazy and relaxed and not feel the pressure to do anything? If slothing didn't exist then people would be way too driven and cause even more harmful things.

Do you have any ideas of your own on what is bad that wasn't written down in scripture? Also God kind of raped Mary to make Jesus it seems.
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You seem like someone hurting. I wish you well. Take care now.
 
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IamYourYahaweh

Member
Jimmy said:
You seem like someone hurting. I wish you well. Take care now.
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Nice cop out man, you seem like an egomaniac that thinks he is special because he had one close encounter with something and thinks the world revolves around him and he has all the answers but is refusing to learn anything.
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
IamYourYahaweh said:
Nice cop out man, you seem like an egomaniac that thinks he is special because he had one close encounter with something and thinks the world revolves around him and he has all the answers but is refusing to learn anything.
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Special? Yes, I am. As are all living beings. My God wants me to know things. I’m always open and love learning new things. Take care
 
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IamYourYahaweh

Member
Jimmy said:
Special? No. Just different. My God wants me to know things. I’m always open and love learning new things. Take care
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Your god? I thought you were everything though? So if you are open to learning as many claim to be then why don't you consider every side and that there are no sides. For example there are no good and bad and you can't determine what is good or bad because they all work in perfect tandem and something that appears bad immediately can have a great positive impact long term
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
IamYourYahaweh said:
Your god? I thought you were everything though? So if you are open to learning as many claim to be then why don't you consider every side and that there are no sides. For example there are no good and bad and you can't determine what is good or bad because they all work in perfect tandem and something that appears bad immediately can have a great positive impact long term
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You are right. I am special as are all living beings.
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
IamYourYahaweh said:
Your god? I thought you were everything though? So if you are open to learning as many claim to be then why don't you consider every side and that there are no sides. For example there are no good and bad and you can't determine what is good or bad because they all work in perfect tandem and something that appears bad immediately can have a great positive impact long term
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Take care now
 
Jimmy

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I don’t think Christians actually believe a man rose from the grave 2000 yrs ago. I refuse to believe Christians are that out of touch with reality.
 
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