Do evolution and bigbang always have to be in conflict with religion/spirituality/Philosophies?

[psychoslice]

To the backward thinking funermentalist it does matter, the big bang and evolution are a threat to their backward beliefs.

 

[Thief]

They don't go there because it is nothing more than useless superstition; in another word, it is not real.

Why mention spirit at all be mentioned in science when it's (spirit) existence is no more credible than pixies, leprechauns, goblins or trolls?

If you want to believe in spirit, than that's your problem, because it has nothing to do with this thread.

Science has no conflict with religion because science is not theology. Science is not a study of god or gods. Science is not about the make-believe heaven or hell, or eternal salvation or eternal torment.

Likewise religion is not science, but creationists cannot help themselves by butting in things they don't understand about the real world, preferring superstitions and twisted fantasy of afterlife with obsession with sins and death.

The problem is with some religious people who refused to give up their primitive superstitions for something is real that they forget to live.

so you skipped the title of the thread....and straight to your denial....

 

[Thief]

Yeah. I'm "avoiding" falling into a meaningless tangent.

You've yet to explain what my post has to do with an afterlife, or what this thread has to do with an afterlife. So explain what you mean, or I can safely assume it's just hot air.

hmmm.....a discussion to avoid spiritual life.....

in spite of the title.....

 

[viole]

In my opinion, there are some beliefs, cultural beliefs and practices that are in tune with science.
Religion always isn't anti science.

If you shoot thousands of claims randomly, chances are that some of them are in tune with modern science.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Sonofason]

In my opinion, there are some beliefs, cultural beliefs and practices that are in tune with science.
Religion always isn't anti science.

Religion can certainly be out of tune with science.

But, the closer science gets to the truth, the more in tune it is with God.

 

[Sonofason]

To the backward thinking funermentalist it does matter, the big bang and evolution are a threat to their backward beliefs.

Hardly a threat. I believe God caused the Big Bang, the moment he said, "let there be light". What was the first form of existence by the way according to the big bang. Was it light by chance?

Evolution is in complete harmony with the creation story, for as the word of God states, each creature, every life that comes forth into existence comes forth after its kind. And that is evolution, in a single sentence.

 

[psychoslice]

Hardly a threat. I believe God caused the Big Bang, the moment he said, "let there be light". What was the first form of existence by the way according to the big bang. Was it light by chance?

Evolution is in complete harmony with the creation story, for as the word of God states, each creature, every life that comes forth into existence comes forth after its kind. And that is evolution, in a single sentence.

The creation story is a very rudimentary way at looking at evolution, I think because of the embarrassing situation creationist get themselves into, they then try fitting their stories into what science have discovered, not very honest at all.

 

[Sonofason]

The creation story is a very rudimentary way at looking at evolution, I think because of the embarrassing situation creationist get themselves into, they then try fitting their stories into what science have discovered, not very honest at all.

I don't have to make it fit...it fits. Find me a verse in the Bible that tells us that evolution does not take place. If you can't, then you are wrong.

Oh and then apologize for calling me a liar.

 

[psychoslice]

I don't have to make it fit...it fits. Find me a verse in the Bible that tells us that evolution does not take place. If you can't, then you are wrong.

Oh and then apologize for calling me a liar.

So you really believe everything was made in six days ?

 

[Sonofason]

So you really believe everything was made in six days ?

Of course. If you understood the terminology of the Bible, you might understand.
Let me help you understand.
day:
- a period of opportunity or prominence
- an era of existence or influence
- the interval of light between two successive nights
- a time of light
Day - definition of Day by The Free Dictionary

My friend, "God is Light". When God is present, it is as day. When he is not, it is as night. While God is present and creating it is day. When he steps back to see what He has made, it is night.

morning - The first or early part; the beginning
morning - definition of morning by The Free Dictionary

evening - A later period or time
evening - definition of evening by The Free Dictionary

 

[psychoslice]

Of course. If you understood the terminology of the Bible, you might understand.
Let me help you understand.
day:
- a period of opportunity or prominence
- an era of existence or influence
- the interval of light between two successive nights
- a time of light
Day - definition of Day by The Free Dictionary

My friend, "God is Light". When God is present, it is as day. When he is not, it is as night. While God is present and creating it is day. When he steps back to see what He has made, it is night.

morning - The first or early part; the beginning
morning - definition of morning by The Free Dictionary

evening - A later period or time
evening - definition of evening by The Free Dictionary

No, that makes no sense to any scientific thinking person, its just a story that you believe in, with no honest proof whatsoever, in fact I cannot go on discussing this with story teller, maybe you better keep that for those who like to hear stories.

 

[Sonofason]

No, that makes no sense to any scientific thinking person, its just a story that you believe in, with no honest proof whatsoever, in fact I cannot go on discussing this with story teller, maybe you better keep that for those who like to hear stories.

You are free to deny real definitions of words if you like, but I don't see how that strengthens your position.

 

[psychoslice]

You are free to deny real definitions of words if you like, but I don't see how that strengthens your position.

And your free to dream.

 

[Ken Ewald]

You are free to deny real definitions of words if you like, but I don't see how that strengthens your position.

He is just saying that he will not believe until an angel comes down and stirs the waters.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

Religion can certainly be out of tune with science.

But, the closer science gets to the truth, the more in tune it is with God.

Provided the religion is evolved enough to change itself upon new discoveries

 

[Sonofason]

And your free to dream.

I've shown you that God didn't have to make the world in six 24 hour days for the creation story of Genesis 1 to be true. You don't like it. I get that. But I assure you I am not dreaming. The definitions for those words exist today, and I showed you. It doesn't take a genius like me to recognize that.

 

[Sonofason]

He is just saying that he will not believe until an angel comes down and stirs the waters.

I find it fascinating how so many atheists will fail to recognize and even deny the truth just to maintain their own flawed views of reality. Science these days is truly becoming more and more a religion.

 

[Sonofason]

Provided the religion is evolved enough to change itself upon new discoveries

Thankfully the Bible remains in tact, and we don't have to rely on religion to recognize the truth that the Bible contains within its pages.

 

[Sonofason]

No, that makes no sense to any scientific thinking person, its just a story that you believe in, with no honest proof whatsoever, in fact I cannot go on discussing this with story teller, maybe you better keep that for those who like to hear stories.

Perhaps you ought to be more spiritually minded, and leave the quack science to their own religion.

 

[idav]

I find it fascinating how so many atheists will fail to recognize and even deny the truth just to maintain their own flawed views of reality. Science these days is truly becoming more and more a religion.

Religion doesn't require faith cause it goes by observation. Just the same God requires faith until observed.

Science won't easily be in conflict with reality but there is no observable explanation for where all this power matter and energy came from that is the universe.

I mean what is a universe popping into existence look like, there can't even be an observer at that point, except from the outside.

I think it is a safe premise that a bunch of stuff exists and going from there isn't too difficult by observing this "stuff" etc.