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Do people really find God in life?

Frog

Cult of Kek.
Those are nothing but projections of the human ego attributed to a God they have never encountered, nor ever could since they are looking to their ideas. They are seeing what they want to see, as you say. They want to see an idea of themselves vindicated in the name of their religion. That is not God. That is not what inspires art. That is what inspires war.
Wanting, and not, not wanting neither.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
My own person can't comprehend the fact as this, that the divine bread giver would hide himself from us and leave us to his own creation.
People say that life itself is God, how can that be if people can not find him in it? If man was made in Gods image how then when man makes his own creation that he is not found in those creations. I know what you would say but there is no way that an art of God proves God in art.

I personally believe in my own God. Nobody knows this God but me.

This is the fundamental mystery of God...as it is of free will, consciousness and being itself. How can we know and question the foundation of our knowledge and questioning? It is the problem of self-reference in a rational mind. We cannot objectify our sense of our subjective selves.

Knowing God requires voluntary participation of the knower to accept the possibility of God. This is also the basis for the existence of our own most personal sense of being. If we do not have a mirror (the mirror of a culture which places value in some fashion for each person's individual existence) that perpetually reminded us of ourselves and our importance, we would, individually, diminish. In a society that places a low level of value on the individual or in an abusive environment that diminishes the value of a particular individual, this is what happens. So in a society which wants to understand, "What is next for us as a people and where are we going that is worth the effort to get to?", we need to understand what is beyond ourselves. Our deeply social brains may choose to do this through the contemplation of divine beings (like Star Trek aliens) so that we can most fully talk about and relate to reality at that "higher level". And to commit to one or another such image is to simultaneously commit to ourselves in a deep way as having a role and a meaning connected to the greater whole.

In the final analysis I think we each know our own God and that God is the same God. I think this is the way that makes the most sense given the nature of the reality we have.
 

Frog

Cult of Kek.
This is the fundamental mystery of God...as it is of free will, consciousness and being itself. How can we know and question the foundation of our knowledge and questioning? It is the problem of self-reference in a rational mind. We cannot objectify our sense of our subjective selves.
I am either too stoned or you lost me cowboy. Are you saying that nothing we believe in our minds is true?
So in a society which wants to understand, "What is next for us as a people and where are we going that is worth the effort to get to?", we need to understand what is beyond ourselves. Our deeply social brains may choose to do this through the contemplation of divine beings (like Star Trek aliens) so that we can most fully talk about and relate to reality at that "higher level". And to commit to one or another such image is to simultaneously commit to ourselves in a deep way as having a role and a meaning connected to the greater whole.
Human materialism has given us all that we can expect from it. It is now time to merge philosophically, spiritually, and scientifically into one order. We must evolve or perish. Nature kills that which does not evolve.
n the final analysis I think we each know our own God and that God is the same God. I think this is the way that makes the most sense given the nature of the reality we have.
Easy now you are bordering on esoteric Christianity

If we do not have a mirror (the mirror of a culture which places value in some fashion for each person's individual existence) that perpetually reminded us of ourselves and our importance, we would, individually, diminish. In a society that places a low level of value on the individual or in an abusive environment that diminishes the value of a particular individual, this is what happens.
Hmm.. the absence of culture, I do not think that is possible to do with group animals such as humans, and religion is not authentically culture.
 

we-live-now

Active Member
My own person can't comprehend the fact as this, that the divine bread giver would hide himself from us and leave us to his own creation.
People say that life itself is God, how can that be if people can not find him in it? If man was made in Gods image how then when man makes his own creation that he is not found in those creations. I know what you would say but there is no way that an art of God proves God in art.

I personally believe in my own God. Nobody knows this God but me.

I think "God" reveals himself/herself/itself to each person in a unique way. Beside being all created and non-created things, God is YOUR life that makes your body move each day. It/he/she is within you and your body. The reason we can't see God is because God IS us.
 

MonkeyFire

Well-Known Member
Lucifer, the angel of light and omniscience, had to come down to earth so that ignorance would not exist in Heaven because of the pain and suffering of mankind.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
My own person can't comprehend the fact as this, that the divine bread giver would hide himself from us and leave us to his own creation.
People say that life itself is God, how can that be if people can not find him in it? If man was made in Gods image how then when man makes his own creation that he is not found in those creations. I know what you would say but there is no way that an art of God proves God in art.

I personally believe in my own God. Nobody knows this God but me.
Hi, @Frog. My aim is that God is to find life in me.

Jesus is said to have said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life". But, what is life?
 
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