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Do Self Described Intellectuals Overthink Things and Overestimate Themselves?

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
From what I have experienced, most of the time, most people who consider themselves "intellectuals" actually grossly underestimate their abilities and most of them are quite humble. But this is opinion and not fact.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Who on Earth would be so socially clumsy to actually refer to oneself as an "intellectual"?
It reminds me of Martin Prince quote on The Simpsons......
"Pick me teacher! I'm ever so smart!"
One just sets oneself up to fail to meet lofty standards.
Tis better to aim low, & succeed at picking the low hanging fruit.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I'd say yes on both accounts overall

I think most people tend to swing between two extremes of (1) over-estimating themselves, and (2) under-estimating themselves. One moment, they think they are the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel, and the next moment, they see themselves as the greatest fool on earth. At least that's my hunch.

I also think the Dunning-Kruger effect is very real.
 

CalmAsHinduCows

New Member
From what I've noticed, the individuals going around spouting how they are "intellectuals," couldn't be more wrong about themselves.

He who knows does not speak.
He who speaks does not know.

- Lao-Tzu - The Way of Lao-Tzu
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
From what I've noticed, the individuals going around spouting how they are "intellectuals," couldn't be more wrong about themselves.



- Lao-Tzu - The Way of Lao-Tzu
Sorta reminds me of someone that I knew years ago who was very rich but often dressed very casually. Someone asked her why she dressed as such instead of dressing up more, and her response was that those who have it really don't have to flaunt it.
 

Harvey Meale

New Member
Who on Earth would be so socially clumsy to actually refer to oneself as an "intellectual"?
It reminds me of Martin Prince quote on The Simpsons......
"Pick me teacher! I'm ever so smart!"
One just sets oneself up to fail to meet lofty standards.
Tis better to aim low, & succeed at picking the low hanging fruit.

If your only agenda is modesty. Modesty is, of course, valued in intellectual circles. I don't think aiming low is a great general philosophy to have, however.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If your only agenda is modesty. Modesty is, of course, valued in intellectual circles. I don't think aiming low is a great general philosophy to have, however.
The goal is not modesty.
It's avoiding ridicule, derision, criticism, embarrassment, & the pointing at me while laughing at me privates.
Modesty is just a tactic.

Goodness!
You have one cheerful avatar there, bub!
 

Harvey Meale

New Member
The goal is not modesty.
It's avoiding ridicule, derision, criticism, embarrassment, & the pointing at me while laughing at me privates.
Modesty is just a tactic.

Goodness!
You have one cheerful avatar there, bub!

Shouldn't one avoid ridicule, derision, criticism, embarrassment, etc. by ensuring they're well educated about that which they speak on? It's possible that, just by tackling particular topics, you will encounter criticism and ridicule (Sam Harris and Hitch' come to mind immediately).

Goodness!
You have one cheerful avatar there, bub!

Cheerful, perhaps. I find it more creepy than anything. :')
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Shouldn't one avoid ridicule, derision, criticism, embarrassment, etc. by ensuring they're well educated about that which they speak on? It's possible that, just by tackling particular topics, you will encounter criticism and ridicule (Sam Harris and Hitch' come to mind immediately).
Well, I did attend a large public school.
Cheerful, perhaps. I find it more creepy than anything. :')
Creepy is good too.
 

Harvey Meale

New Member
Well, I did attend a large public school.

Creepy is good too.

When you've seen some of the artist's other works, you may understand better where I'm coming from.

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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I don't think I've ever really known someone who didn't at times overestimate themselves and at other times underestimate themselves.
 
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