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Do the teachings of Jesus promote poverty?

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Poverty means to struggle for life's necessities. Does anyone really think Jesus Christ promoted a life of material struggle? A person should have enough so that she need not worry about getting enough. If a person has enough it can't be said of that person that she is living in poverty. Of course if a person lives on the line of enough and poverty it is easy to slip unter the line and have to worry about eating and living.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Poverty means to struggle for life's necessities. Does anyone really think Jesus Christ promoted a life of material struggle? .

Exactly! Your catching on ;)


Give us this day our daily bread, is a prayer that their hunger will be answered with a piece of bread.


These people in Galilee were starving, mortality rates were ridiculously high.


ALL children's bones found in even rich areas of Galilee all show malnutrition. We see Harris lines on all bones found from this time period.


People in Nazareth had nothing to loose but their lives, they definitely had nothing to give.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
To focus on money management, whether by a rich man or a poor man, a rich organization or a poor one, is to take focus off The Spirit and to put it on the money.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
This is true. The richest people tend to hoard it. The trend is for the richest people to accumulate more and more money and for everyone else to have less and less.

Poverty Facts and Stats

That incorrectly assumes that there is only one pie.

However, when there is a growing economy the pie grows larger as well.

And there is no such thing as hoarding your own money. You created it. It belongs to you.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
That incorrectly assumes that there is only one pie.

However, when there is a growing economy the pie grows larger as well.

And there is no such thing as hoarding your own money. You created it. It belongs to you.

What do you think the definition of hoard is?
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
What do you think the definition of hoard is?

None of the definitons work in this case.

Hoarding | Define Hoarding at Dictionary.com

noun
1.a supply or accumulation that is hidden or carefullyguarded for preservation, future use, etc.:a vast hoard of silver.


verb (used with object)
2.to accumulate for preservation, future use, etc., ina hidden or carefully guarded place:to hoard food during a shortage.


verb (used without object)
3.to accumulate money, food, or the like, in a hiddenor carefully guarded place for preservation, futureuse, etc.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
That incorrectly assumes that there is only one pie.

However, when there is a growing economy the pie grows larger as well.

And there is no such thing as hoarding your own money. You created it. It belongs to you.
You might have stolen it? But even if you didn't you sure as hell did not create it.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Economic growth is more influenced by consumer spending than by having a very wealthy 1%.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
The way I heard it was that if money keeps you from putting God first, then you'd be better off without it. That would be the same with anything that a follower of God would put above God.

I'd go a step further: I think that these passages about wealth suggest that Christians should be poor enough that they're reliant on God.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I'd go a step further: I think that these passages about wealth suggest that Christians should be poor enough that they're reliant on God.

Should be? I don't think Jesus ever said anyone "should be" anything. I believe there are very rich people who do not rely on their money but on their faith. But money is a dangerous thing. With it it is too easy to start depending on it and not on God. I am sure it can happen to a person without them even knowing.

I depend on God for wisdom. Money can't give anyone that.
 

roger1440

I do stuff
Jesus said that you should share everything you have and give it to the poor. That promotes poverty.

It actually demonstrates abundance. Wealth isn’t measured by what we have in our pocket. It’s measured by what we have in our heart.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
No one "creates" money or wealth by themselves.

BTW, are you totally anti-tax?
Many people create wealth due to their skill and drive.

No I am not totally anti-tax.

The government has certainly been getting into stuff that the founding fathers never dreamed of.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Deuteronomy 15:4 However, there need be no poor people among you, for in the land the LORD your God is giving you to possess as your inheritance, he will richly bless you, Deuteronomy 15:4

Proverbs 3:10
then your barns will be filled to overflowing, and your vats will brim over with new wine.

thank you...I didn't remember the exact passage
 
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