Do voters have a right to know if a candidate is in poor health?

[Lyndon]

The difference is Hillary released her health care records, Trump never did, just like his taxes. I'm sure he at least has a huge prescription for viagra!! Generally people with red skin aren't in the best of health.

 

[Revoltingest]

Even if Hillary was a cold corpse, she still couldn't be that much worse than Trump.

In that case, she'd go from being worse than The Donald, to being better.

 

[Lyndon]

I wonder how many Trump supporters belittle Michael J Fox for having Parkinson's disease, and claim he's unfit to be an actor, and is retarded????? As far as I know Parkinson's is a physical disability, not a mental one.

 

[Revoltingest]

I wonder how many Trump supporters belittle Michael J Fox for having Parkinson's disease, and claim he's unfit to be an actor, and is retarded????? As far as I know Parkinson's is a physical disability, not a mental one.

It does diminish mental function.

 

[Lyndon]

For once you're right about something, I researched it!! But I don't think it has much effect on mental function in the first few years, say 4 years???

 

[fantome profane]

It does diminish mental function.

It should be noted that pneumonia does not diminish mental functions, and there is no evidence that Hilary Clinton has any condition that reduces mental function

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Now, stories of pneumonia, heat exhaustion, and blood clots to the brain emerge where she can't recally briefings...

I love it when people with zero medical credentials and relying on the Trump/Breitbart talking points connect the dots.

 

[Parchment]

Hillary had a claimed bill of 'excellent health' end of July but not stumbled on a day that wasn't that hot or humid leaving a 9-11 service 3 hours early... leaving a shoe behind... I went to a picnic for hours today and it was fairly moderate and pretty nice out in NY

Now, stories of pneumonia, heat exhaustion, and blood clots to the brain emerge where she can't recall briefings... do the voters have a reasonable expectation of a candidate sharing health issues that can compromise their abilty to work before an election?

I read two different stories which of course comes with a pound or more of table salt:

Heat exhaustion- She came out of a car no doubt with the AC on if it was too warm

Collapsed due to fainting because she was overcome with the thought of how close Chelsea came to being in that building on 9/11-No Joke!- If that overwhelmed her I couldn't imagine how she would react to the daily in and out pressures of being the president*

*not Bill Clinton's idea of the daily in and out in the oval office or his peculiar way of flavouring cigars

As to the question, I'd say reasonable is the key word- we probably don't want to know everything.

 

[SkepticThinker]

While I think the public has a right to know about any disease or disorder that would affect a candidate's judgment or incline them to dying in office, I don't think lesser diseases or disorders are all that important. After all, anyone can get pneumonia, and most healthy people will shake it off with medical help.

Agreed. I'm wondering why this is being made into some huge issue.

 

[Wirey]

Apparently FDR was right to conceal his polio; I had no idea Americans were still so crassly judgemental about health issues. Well, to each their own I suppose. Me, I care about a lot of things a lot more than whether a candidate is prone to overheating or not.

Polio didn't affect his brain, just his legs. If a candidate has a medical condition that could affect their ability to govern, like Hillary's concussion symptoms or Dubya's complete absence of cranial matter, they should be required by law to divulge prior to the election.

 

[metis]

Hillary had a claimed bill of 'excellent health' end of July but not stumbled on a day that wasn't that hot or humid leaving a 9-11 service 3 hours early... leaving a shoe behind... I went to a picnic for hours today and it was fairly moderate and pretty nice out in NY

Now, stories of pneumonia, heat exhaustion, and blood clots to the brain emerge where she can't recally briefings... do the voters have a reasonable expectation of a candidate sharing health issues that can compromise their abilty to work before an election?

Yes, and their taxes as well, the latter of which each presidential candidate except Trump has done for roughly 40 years now..

 

[Augustus]

Agreed. I'm wondering why this is being made into some huge issue.

Pneumonia is often a condition that results from other health problem.

Hillary has had several 'unrelated' health concerns in recent years. There is a good chance (not a certainty) that they are not unconnected at all. It is reasonable to believe that she possibly has a larger health problem. The people assisting her didn't seem particularly shocked at the incident either.

Her 'people' also lied about the problem at first. And people have been speculating about her health for a long time.

A rational, impartial observer could very well reach the conclusion that something ain't right. It is not simply 'move on, nothing to see here'.

 

[metis]

Some of us, including your's truly, has had pneumonia, and it rarely leaves long-term consequences as long as one survives it. I had mine when I was in my late 20's as I tried to ignore my cold and work through it. I was so chilled at one time with it that my wife literally had to go outside as it was 95 in the house and I was shivering with a blanket on. It took me five weeks to get back to normal-- although some do question whether I ever am normal.

 

[Koldo]

Bacterial pneumonias are contagious and treated with antibiotics because they are contagious.

The “doc” lady for Hillary says she has been given antibiotics for her pneumonia. Really? Ok …

What kind of pneumonia? Bacterial pneumonia? TB type pneumonia?

There are some types due to breathing in chemicals, or due to cocaine abuse - but these are not contagious. So no antibiotics are administered.

How many other people may she have infected going around saying “I feel great” during all these coughing fits in which she was caught hacking up yellow hack into a glass of water. We were told she has hay fever. What else will we be told, or more specifically what we will not be told?

I want to see the lung xrays be made public so that other independent doctors can view them – part of revealing one’s medical records while running for President.

This is downright ridiculous.

 

[Augustus]

Some of us, including your's truly, has had pneumonia, and it rarely leaves long-term consequences as long as one survives it. I had mine when I was in my late 20's as I tried to ignore my cold and work through it. I was so chilled at one time with it that my wife literally had to go outside as it was 95 in the house and I was shivering with a blanket on. It took me five weeks to get back to normal-- although some do question whether I ever am normal.

The point is that it is not pneumonia in isolation, but combined with several other factors.This vastly increases the probability on there being something more seriously wrong with her health.

Anyway, it's too late now as the perception is already there so it will probably cost her the election (imho).

 

[Koldo]

The point is that it is not pneumonia in isolation, but combined with several other factors.This vastly increases the probability on there being something more seriously wrong with her health.

Anyway, it's too late now as the perception is already there so it will probably cost her the election (imho).

On what basis have you reached this conclusion ?

 

[Augustus]

On what basis have you reached this conclusion ?

What conclusion?

Based on a combination of health related 'events' combined with lying about health related events and long term speculation about her health based on said events, her appearance, etc.

When treated as a whole, rather than individually, the probability mounts up significantly. It doesn't 'prove' anything, it just makes it much more probable.

If you meant why will it cost her the election, then it just compounds with her unpopularity, reputation for being economical with the truth, dubious financial history and links to moneyed special interests in a way that Trump will likely exploit to win the election. That's just an educated guess though, might be wrong. One more health related event though and she might well be unelectable.

 

[Koldo]

If you meant why will it cost her the election, then it just compounds with her unpopularity, reputation for being economical with the truth, dubious financial history and links to moneyed special interests in a way that Trump will likely exploit to win the election. That's just an educated guess though, might be wrong. One more health related event though and she might well be unelectable.

Yes, that part.
You are citing multiple factors as to why she might not be elected, but you have yet to explain why her health would cost her the election.

 

[Augustus]

Yes, that part.
You are citing multiple factors as to why she might not be elected, but you have yet to explain why her health would cost her the election.

Narrative & affect & Trumpian rhetoric.

 

[Underhill]

I read two different stories which of course comes with a pound or more of table salt:

Heat exhaustion- She came out of a car no doubt with the AC on if it was too warm

Collapsed due to fainting because she was overcome with the thought of how close Chelsea came to being in that building on 9/11-No Joke!- If that overwhelmed her I couldn't imagine how she would react to the daily in and out pressures of being the president*

*not Bill Clinton's idea of the daily in and out in the oval office or his peculiar way of flavouring cigars

As to the question, I'd say reasonable is the key word- we probably don't want to know everything.

Overcome by the thought of her child dying? What kind of monster wouldn't?

People can't have it both ways. On one hand the claim is that she is a cold hearted monster and on the other she is too soft...