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Do We Really Need This Kind of Bigotry?

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Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
Most important things to consider right now:

1. Jews are not a monolithic ethno-racial group.

2. Please change "bigoty" to "bigotry".​
 

Alceste

Vagabond
I'd hardly characterize Jewish preferences on marrying other Jews as anti-miscegenation. An Ashkenazi marrying a Sephardic would still be miscegenation, as per the logic of the term itself. But it still would be a Jewish person marrying another Jewish person. Anti-miscegenation sported by White supremacists, on the other hand, rests solely on one basis: no one is good enough to breed with those of White European heritage. In other words, these are completely two radically different things. To make such a correlation is careless in nature.

Actually, having visited that same nameless website myself, white supremacists don't argue that "nobody is good enough" to marry white people. They subscribe to the belief that everyone should stick to their own kind. Separate but equal. Because otherwise white culture (and every other culture) will eventually be overwhelmed and assimilated into a great homogeneous, dusky, dark-haired Borg.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
Actually, having visited that same nameless website myself, white supremacists don't argue that "nobody is good enough" to marry white people. They subscribe to the belief that everyone should stick to their own kind. Separate but equal. Because otherwise white culture (and every other culture) will eventually be overwhelmed and assimilated into a great homogeneous, dusky, dark-haired Borg.

White supremacy rests solely on the eugenically spread propaganda that Whites are socially, economically, and politically superior to non-Whites, thus the classification of the whole franchise as "White supremacy".
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
And that is an imposition upon her own free will and right to association.
She did nothing wrong and committed no transgression, she simply married the man she loves.

You seem to be of the opinion that a person should have no duties and responsibilities to anyone or anything outside themselves and their own personal desires. I understand that that is a common philosophy in some modern circles, especially those influenced by American social philosophy, which is deeply, deeply individualistic.

But Judaism is not individualistic, it is communitarian, as most classical societies were, as many modern societies are as well. For most societies to function, there need to be obligations amongst the members and to the society as a whole, as well as boundaries. And because obligations and boundaries are, by definition, rules, that means that sometimes they may conflict with the whims of individuals; and in order for the society to exist, continue, and remain coherent, the obligations and boundaries of the society must trump the desires of the individual. That is why they are duties and responsibilities, rather than vague suggestions or notions just for laughs.

I am certainly not suggesting that anyone be forced to fulfill their duties and responsibilities. But I am saying that we should be frank about when someone has chosen to shirk their duties and responsibilities in favor of their own selfish desires. And we should not pretend that when such people shirk their responsibilities in favor of their own pleasures, it does not harm the rest of the society-- because it does.

The rules of Jewish society are for educated, participating Jews to decide upon, based upon our tradition and the Torah. You have no right to decide that this woman or those like her did nothing wrong or committed no transgression. It is not your call to make.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
White supremacy rests solely on the eugenically spread propaganda that Whites are socially, economically, and politically superior to non-Whites, thus the classification of the whole franchise as "White supremacy".

That is not how they see themselves, according to the forum where they discuss such things with one another. Seems to me that description must originate from outside the culture.

Nobody is comfortable saying "I'm a racist" loud and proud. It's kind of gone out of fashion. Now it's all "I'm not a racist, but..." and "it isn't bigoted if it's true" and "everyone should stick with their own kind."
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Self pity & trumpeting victimization is far
too over-sold, it avoids addressing his post.

What is there even to address?
We as part of a not so big people are obviously destined to cease to exist through various means.

Oh and we are the Nazis.


The second point could be used to explain the importance of the first point to bring this point into effect.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
That is not how they see themselves, according to the forum where they discuss such things with one another. Seems to me that description must originate from outside the culture.

Nobody is comfortable saying "I'm a racist" loud and proud. It's kind of gone out of fashion. Now it's all "I'm not a racist, but..." and "it isn't bigoted if it's true" and "everyone should stick with their own kind."

"Why We Are Superior"
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Just recalling what has been said in this thread. Dont really care for your sympathy to be honest.
Well, someone insulted you. Tis better to get over
it than continually trot it out to those who didn't

Although....I'm a little guilty of it, since I decided
to make "cunning" my title de jour. I own that term!
 

Alceste

Vagabond

Blech. I need to scrub my eyes clean. I stand corrected.

Ok, so if Jewish anti-miscegenation is bigotry lite, that is extra large bigotry with bigotry sauce and a side order of bigotry. But you can see that the destruction of white culture and society by dilution is a pressing concern for these idiots. That is the similarity I observe, despite the enormous difference in yuck factor.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
Blech. I need to scrub my eyes clean. I stand corrected.

Ok, so if Jewish anti-miscegenation is bigotry lite, that is extra large bigotry with bigotry sauce and a side order of bigotry. But you can see that the destruction of white culture and society by dilution is a pressing concern for these idiots. That is the similarity I observe, despite the enormous difference in yuck factor.

I believe the term, miscegenation, is being misapplied. Ashkenazi Jews marrying Sephardic or Indian, or even Chinese Jews for that matter, would be miscegenation, but it still would be a Jewish person marrying another Jewish person. The contention, on the other hand, has to do with religious-endogamy.

Yes, the people over at the forum whose name shall not be uttered believe that their race is special, some even believe they have been chosen by fate or divinity to preserve the uniqueness and specialness of their race. And that intermarriage threatens that uniqueness.

I see what you did there.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
2. Please change "bigoty" to "bigotry".

I don't know how to change it without deleting the whole thread. I blame it all on not having spell-check on my p.c. Certainly not my fault.:rolleyes:

However, because of so many over-the-top posts on this thread, maybe it all should be deleted.:eek:
 

dantech

Well-Known Member
Considering your Jewish brethern are presently shelling civilians to keep their isolated enclave safe, I'd say we're on the way.

Another spot on comment! JEWS (not Israelis) are "shelling" civilians (not terrorists hidden among civilians). And they are doing that to keep their isolated enclave safe (not to stop the thousands of incoming rockets that are targetting their same "brethern"). You sir, deserve the nobel prize for your astute observations.
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
I don't know how to change it without deleting the whole thread. I blame it all on not having spell-check on my p.c. Certainly not my fault.:rolleyes:

However, because of so many over-the-top posts on this thread, maybe it all should be deleted.:eek:

The only reason I'm participating in this thread is to await the incoming change to the spelling of that term. As soon as it is changed by the mods/admins, I shall desist and be OCD-happy. Yay ! :p
 
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