MonkeyFire
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I feel its Christ who loves life because belief is hope.
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Do You All Want the End of Humanity?
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Trailblazer
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I believe it has happened and the prophecies that were fulfilled proves it.
William Sears, Thief in the Night
The evidence is incontrovertible to anyone who believes in the Bible, but you are a nonbeliever.
Personally Wizanda I see many do study and put into practice what God taught.
Unfortunately you are not the source of that understanding.
You may have some good ideas, they would be from the Revelation of Baha'u'llah or any past Messenger given by God, but they are not directly from God to you, your are not in any way shape or form, the Messiah.
All the best wizanda, I do wish you all that God can give.
Regards Tony
QuestioningMind
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The evidence was incontrovertible for every believer who claimed the 2nd coming was coming during every generation for the past 2000 years. However their 'incontrovertible' evidence has turned out to be WRONG time and again. There's absolutely no reason to think that believers in this generation somehow have gotten it all right.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I do not understand why you said "evidence was incontrovertible for every believer who claimed the 2nd coming was coming during every generation" because Jesus never came. Claiming Jesus IS coming is not the same as having evidence that Jesus DID come. No Christian claims that Jesus HAS come. They simply believe he IS coming. One cannot have evidence for something that has not happened yet.
By contrast, the Baha'i Faith has evidence that Christ has returned, and that evidence is all the prophecies that have been fulfilled. This is incontrovertible evidence because events and places can be verified by actual history and geography. The prophecies and how they were fulfilled by Baha'u'llah are all delineated in this book William Sears, Thief in the Night.
I am not talking about a few prophecies that could possibly be misconstrued, I am talking about hundreds or prophecies. Even if there was no other evidence to support the claims of Baha'u'llah to be the Messiah and the return of Christ, the fulfilled prophecies would be enough evidence for me, because it is objective evidence. Of course, it goes without saying that I believe that the prophecies are accurate and the Bible is the inspired Word of God. Otherwise, the whole claim falls down like a house of cards and we go back to having to rely upon subjective evidence.
WhyIsThatSo
Well-Known Member
Since the religious texts globally confirm what the Source of reality told me, maybe they're fake as well.
In my opinion.
Perhaps your "Source" is not who they claim to be ?
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I have to Agree on that one for sure
maybe willful ignorance is a better statement.
WhyIsThatSo
Well-Known Member
I take it this guy thinks he's the next "Messiah" ?
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
It sounds that way yes.
How can it be ignorance? How can it be willful?
There is nothing, no evidence, no proof,no fact, no nothing.
Nothing to be ignorant about.
WhyIsThatSo
Well-Known Member
I guess he doesn't know that he (Messiah) already came a couple of grand ago,
only he didn't do what he was supposed to do, so his "Daddy" punished him,
Hung him on a tree, if I remember correctly .
"...for he that is hanged on a tree is accursed of God "…( Deuteronomy 21:23 )
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Honestly I know to little about how things actually happened or are about to happen in Abrahamic religions, so I guess I should not say too much. But in my understanding he ain't messiah
I have to admit that I am uncomfortable posting in threads where there is evidence of psychological disorder. At minimum, we should be aware that we might inadvertently contribute to a problem that really requires help. And I've read a lot of evidence in this thread that this is the case here.
Sorry, I don't know how else to say this...
Sorry, I don't know how else to say this...
The Source of reality (God) spoke to me at 5-6 years old, explaining Yeshua didn't say "I Am" about himself all the time (Mark 13:5-6, Matthew 24:4-5, Luke 21:8), and the world had been deceived by this.
At 15 the Source of reality explained global eschatology to me, and asked me to read the religions; which prophesied the same details.
At the age of 21 years old I fulfilled Revelation 10 & 5 as the Source of reality spoke to me, and at 24 I read the Bible; learning over the years, that what the Source explained of Yeshua coming as a Snare is all prophesied in detail (Isaiah 8:11-22).
For the Source of reality to not be real, and the religions texts to all be false, makes illogical equations.
In my opinion.
WhyIsThatSo
Well-Known Member
The Source of reality (God) spoke to me at 5-6 years old, explaining Yeshua didn't say "I Am" about himself all the time (Mark 13:5-6, Matthew 24:4-5, Luke 21:8), and the world had been deceived by this.
At 15 the Source of reality explained global eschatology to me, and asked me to read the religions; which prophesied the same details.
At the age of 21 years old I fulfilled Revelation 10 & 5 as the Source of reality spoke to me, and at 24 I read the Bible; learning over the years, that what the Source explained of Yeshua coming as a Snare is all prophesied in detail (Isaiah 8:11-22).
For the Source of reality to not be real, and the religions texts to all be false, makes illogical equations.
In my opinion.
No, you misunderstand, "Yeshua" was the next Jewish Messiah, he just didn't do what he was supposed to do.
Along the way he was "baptized", and then became a vessel for the True God.....
The Source of your "source".
Thus even though I've got proof from all the world's religions that I'm literally sent from Heaven, to help mankind to prevent the end of humanity; you're so confident, you're going to tell me that all the world's religions are wrong, including Baha'i, as Baha'u'llah literally prophesied one to come.
Baha'u'llah accepted there was a Messenger after him, with the name more powerful than his own to unlock the city, and create world peace; the idea fake Baha'i argue against it, is why mankind will end.
"How great the blessedness that awaiteth the king who will arise to aid My Cause in My kingdom, who will detach himself from all else but Me! Such a king is numbered with the companions of the Crimson Ark--the Ark which God hath prepared for the people of Bahá. All must glorify his name, must reverence his station, and aid him to unlock the cities with the keys of My Name, the omnipotent Protector of all that inhabit the visible and invisible kingdoms. Such a king is the very eye of mankind, the luminous ornament on the brow of creation, the fountainhead of blessings unto the whole world. Offer up, O people of Bahá, your substance, nay your very lives, for his assistance." - (Bahá'u'lláh, Kitáb-i-Aqdas, 1873)
Before some fake Baha'i starts misrepresenting Baha'u'llah's words again, stating "it says not for 1000 years"...
It clearly states the Avenger of God (Skanda) will come, my name is prophesied in many religious texts implying this.
37 Whoso layeth claim to a Revelation direct from God, ere the expiration of a full thousand years, such a man is assuredly a lying impostor. We pray God that He may graciously assist him to retract and repudiate such claim. Should he repent, God will, no doubt, forgive him. If, however, he persisteth in his error, God will, assuredly, send down one who will deal mercilessly with him. Terrible, indeed, is God in punishing! Whosoever interpreteth this verse otherwise than its obvious meaning is deprived of the Spirit of God and of His mercy which encompasseth all created things. - Bahá'í Reference Library - The Kitáb-i-Aqdas, Pages 19-34
Baha'u'llah claimed to be Yeshua's father, not the same being returned; I'm the same being returned, and Baha'u'llah prophesied that...
Sorry yet this is why I've asked you to reread all the religious texts you are citing from, as you're embarrassing rewriting meanings, and miseducating people in the process.
In my opinion.
I'm not sure there is no proof--more like one interprets differently what is seen.
What proof are you looking for? If you aren't looking, you will never find it.
I think I do understand how that being was me two thousand years ago, and I've now returned in another human body; with a name in many religious texts globally (Revelation 19:12), thus you'd think people would be respectful.
In my opinion.
Do you see how illogical this equation is?
'Do not understand the texts + Going to guess if the person fulfils prophecy accurately = Thus got no clue if any of it is real.
'We have to make logical sums, to have any hope at escaping the Maya.
Since you've got far more accurate knowledge of what the Source of reality is than many of the world's religions; explain it in detail, since you know for sure this wasn't the Source of reality, that communicated advanced knowledge to me as a child, I'm curious how you know for sure?
In my opinion.