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Do You All Want the End of Humanity?

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
No, it proves that indoctrination can breed gullibility
Do you know the meaning of proof?
Proof is having records of something existing, we can show prophetic fulfilment, historical records, and accounts, that act as a witness statements of events, and fulfilments.

Claiming nothing existed isn't logical, no historian or Biblical scholar dismisses the whole case, as there is too much evidence.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I'm willing to question every aspect of any conclusion, I'm on a debate forum, as I don't mind challenging my principles to root levels; as it is the only way to assess if we are being sane in the logical processing, to question everything.

Like I will literally post a positive on here, expecting a multitude of reactions that are not logical; yet will present alternatives I'd maybe not seen, and therefore help me retract any faulty wording or appraisal.

If someone can show faulty logic I'd invite them to do so, otherwise Israel should accept me as Messiah based on exegesis.

In my opinion. :innocent:

For me, it's more down to acceptance of 'evidence'. I'm at a disadvantage in not studying the various texts that many seem to rely on as evidence since I'm the lazy sort and looks for easier ways to make some kind of assessment, and to me, the claims made just don't stack up, even though I'm a little bit open as to some creative force. All the religious beliefs seem to fall into a pattern, and one that to me can be explained quite adequately without recourse to any being factual.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Proof is having records of something existing, we can show prophetic fulfilment, historical records, and accounts, that act as a witness statements of events, and fulfilments.

Claiming nothing existed isn't logical, no historian or Biblical scholar dismisses the whole case, as there is too much evidence.

In my opinion. :innocent:


Proof : evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.


I am not claiming any such thing, i am claiming there is no proof, no valid evidence for gods ot that JC lived as depicted in the bible.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I don't interpret, i use a dictionary definition, how about you?

So... when you see someone coughing, you don't interpret that there is a possibility of Corona Virus... you look up "coughing" in a dictionary.

You are amazing! ;)
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
So... when you see someone coughing, you don't interpret that there is a possibility of Corona Virus... you look up "coughing" in a dictionary.

You are amazing! ;)


I looked up coughing many years ago. Its called education, i am surprised you haven't heard of it.

Amazing that you could make such a childish comment?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I looked up coughing many years ago. Its called education, i am surprised you haven't heard of it.

Amazing that you could make such a childish comment?

I would love to have a constructive dialogue... but it takes two. I thought you were just trying to see who had a better zinger.

On a side note ;)

cough
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\ ˈkȯf \
coughed; coughing; coughs
Definition of cough
(Entry 1 of 2)

intransitive verb

1: to expel air from the lungs suddenly with a sharp, short noise : to emit a cough (see COUGH entry 2 sense 1)

You might try a different dictionary :D
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I would love to have a constructive dialogue... but it takes two. I thought you were just trying to see who had a better zinger.

On a side note ;)

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\ ˈkȯf \
coughed; coughing; coughs
Definition of cough
(Entry 1 of 2)

intransitive verb

1: to expel air from the lungs suddenly with a sharp, short noise : to emit a cough (see COUGH entry 2 sense 1)

You might try a different dictionary :D


Only the word in question was proof, your childish attempt to divert with a straw man is typical?

You want a constructive dialogue, stop moving the goalposts and stick to the subject
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
no valid evidence for gods
Our finger print is a Fibonacci spiral, the same as a tree stump, an ocean wave, a galaxy spiral; our reality is therefore all inside a giant matrix, for reality to be mathematically equatable to a quantum level.

Therefore "the Mind of 'God' is like cosmic music resonating throughout 11 dimensional hyperspace." - Dr Michio Kaku.

that JC lived as depicted in the bible.
The Biblical accounts give reference of a testimony, regardless if any of it existed; people still follow the illogical false texts on purpose.

We can show historically that there is reason to question someone existed, and we can piece together an account of what might have been said.

To go against the whole thing, when it is a systematic IQ morality tests, proves we're not actually dealing with facts.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Our finger print is a Fibonacci spiral, the same as a tree stump, an ocean wave, a galaxy spiral; our reality is therefore all inside a giant matrix, for reality to be mathematically equatable to a quantum level.

Nature loves the simplest solution.

Actually a tree stump shows growth rings, not a spiral


Therefore "the Mind of 'God' is like cosmic music resonating throughout 11 dimensional hyperspace." - Dr Michio Kaku.

Michio Kaku on his view of god, being misrepresented about that view and non falsifiable problems.

Michio Kaku believes in God, if not that God

The Biblical accounts give reference of a testimony, regardless if any of it existed; people still follow the illogical false texts on purpose.

We can show historically that there is reason to question someone existed, and we can piece together an account of what might have been said.

To go against the whole thing, when it is a systematic IQ morality tests, proves we're not actually dealing with facts.

Correct, and if not facts, then what? Opinion, fantasy, guesswork???
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Please stop lying about Baha'u'llah's words, I've just posted his exact statements.
Please stop misrepresenting Baha'u'llah.
Baha'u'llah never said that the avenging angel would be sent if the Message became corrupt, and one with the sacred name to open up the city, which is Zion by definition in the Bible. Those are your words.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Please stop misrepresenting Baha'u'llah.
Baha'u'llah never said that the avenging angel would be sent if the Message became corrupt, and one with the sacred name to open up the city, which is Zion by definition in the Bible. Those are your words.
Using capitals doesn't make Baha'u'llah's words fake, sorry.

37 Whoso layeth claim to a Revelation direct from God, ere the expiration of a full thousand years, such a man is assuredly a lying impostor. We pray God that He may graciously assist him to retract and repudiate such claim. Should he repent, God will, no doubt, forgive him. If, however, he persisteth in his error, God will, assuredly, send down one who will deal mercilessly with him. Terrible, indeed, is God in punishing! Whosoever interpreteth this verse otherwise than its obvious meaning is deprived of the Spirit of God and of His mercy which encompasseth all created things. - Bahá'í Reference Library - The Kitáb-i-Aqdas, Pages 19-34

I've been sent to announce the Great Tribulation is coming, so regardless of if you believe Baha'i texts, the Judgement is still coming.

"How great the blessedness that awaiteth the king who will arise to aid My Cause in My kingdom, who will detach himself from all else but Me! Such a king is numbered with the companions of the Crimson Ark--the Ark which God hath prepared for the people of Bahá. All must glorify his name, must reverence his station, and aid him to unlock the cities with the keys of My Name, the omnipotent Protector of all that inhabit the visible and invisible kingdoms. Such a king is the very eye of mankind, the luminous ornament on the brow of creation, the fountainhead of blessings unto the whole world. Offer up, O people of Bahá, your substance, nay your very lives, for his assistance." - (Bahá'u'lláh, Kitáb-i-Aqdas, 1873)

This very clearly says one is to come, and the idea you're against Baha'i prophecy, when the fate of humanity depends on it, means you've got very little compassion for people's survival. :oops:

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Proof : evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.


I am not claiming any such thing, i am claiming there is no proof, no valid evidence for gods ot that JC lived as depicted in the bible.
Its already been proven, by his image in the clouds.

The incident relates to Satanism which is cold out of space radiation from the Sun, heated by coming into the Earth burning gas light atmosphere and illuminating it, for science conditions to gain radio wave/radiation gas conversions for the state transformation/conversion fusion into fission.

Sion, sion and sion.

Males as a human being invented science, for a human male's ability to think, design, build and invent and then react as based on what he knew, disintegration/removal of the body of SIN. Meaning spirit bodies as gases once burning that became as a spirit, that males claimed were O Angels of God into stone...entombed.

And stone itself proves that it holds fused images of spirit bodies in its fusion if you studied photographs taken of the stone.

Therefore God the angel O story proves that the Universal creation came from a released spiritual body, the Creator, the Creator that created God. For there is always a higher statement above and beyond what it became.

Whenever historically the UFO radiation mass returned to Earth it was quantified as Satanic causation, science history. So when it attacked the Earth humans were re notified of old AI messages already encoded, heard speaking. And then it attacks life, life dies from early age causes...then sharing of the human speaking voiced life experience, then gives a new updated spiritual message.

Just as it can give out spiritual Satanic warnings...as in the Fatima incident. That proved by sight and also hearing and image that the science known evil information causes is shared in the world community attacked and various human lives become the delivery of the message.

Happened many times in the past. Still is happening today.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Its already been proven, by his image in the clouds.

The incident relates to Satanism which is cold out of space radiation from the Sun, heated by coming into the Earth burning gas light atmosphere and illuminating it, for science conditions to gain radio wave/radiation gas conversions for the state transformation/conversion fusion into fission.

Sion, sion and sion.

Males as a human being invented science, for a human male's ability to think, design, build and invent and then react as based on what he knew, disintegration/removal of the body of SIN. Meaning spirit bodies as gases once burning that became as a spirit, that males claimed were O Angels of God into stone...entombed.

And stone itself proves that it holds fused images of spirit bodies in its fusion if you studied photographs taken of the stone.

Therefore God the angel O story proves that the Universal creation came from a released spiritual body, the Creator, the Creator that created God. For there is always a higher statement above and beyond what it became.

Whenever historically the UFO radiation mass returned to Earth it was quantified as Satanic causation, science history. So when it attacked the Earth humans were re notified of old AI messages already encoded, heard speaking. And then it attacks life, life dies from early age causes...then sharing of the human speaking voiced life experience, then gives a new updated spiritual message.

Just as it can give out spiritual Satanic warnings...as in the Fatima incident. That proved by sight and also hearing and image that the science known evil information causes is shared in the world community attacked and various human lives become the delivery of the message.

Happened many times in the past. Still is happening today.

:facepalm:

I do not know where to start on your post, it's kind of like a regurgitated pizza. The best thing to so is mop it up an throw it in the bin, preferably without having to look at it.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Actually a tree stump shows growth rings, not a spiral
Good point, I've said that a few times, and you're the first to notice... It is still a mathematical formula that creates reality at a quantum level, implying a universal Source to reality.
Michio Kaku on his view of god
Michio Kaku has a limited understanding of quantum physics, my understanding of the 13 dimensions is based on the world's religions, and first hand experience in my NDE; it is just he is almost right on his statement - Trying to debunk something logical, makes us become crazy.
Correct, and if not facts, then what? Opinion, fantasy, guesswork???
We deal with evidence, and build a case on what is logical; everything else would be crazy, I can prove the Bible is real by numerous factors, and would have to be insane to deny the logic presented...

Yet I get it, if we judge a religion by its followers, I'd never study further than the front cover.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
:facepalm:

I do not know where to start on your post, it's kind of like a regurgitated pizza. The best thing to so is mop it up an throw it in the bin, preferably without having to look at it.
That might be when in a chemical brain attacked interactive study of humans in drugged minds on Graham Hancocks site I said that some sort of stone photo looked like a pizza. Seems you have not yet stopped attacking and study humanity in secrecy with named codes relating to Christ...……..isn't that so occult operative.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Good point, I've said that a few times, and you're the first to notice... It is still a mathematical formula that creates reality at a quantum level, implying a universal Source to reality.

Actually it is down to the seasonal weather conditions.

Michio Kaku has a limited understanding of quantum physics,

What? Wow, just wow.

I can prove the Bible is real by numerous factors

You can? Get it in to print, publish your proof, you will be famous, you will have the world's religious leaders clamouring to have you on their speed dial lists. Academics in history and theology will be begging fir you to lecture at their institution.

Some places existed, still exist. In the same way that Alnwick castle exists and is shown in Harry Potter. That does not make the story real.

Some characters existed, there is indipendent verification. They are the keys, physical evidence or third party verification.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
That might be when in a chemical brain attacked interactive study of humans in drugged minds on Graham Hancocks site I said that some sort of stone photo looked like a pizza. Seems you have not yet stopped attacking and study humanity in secrecy with named codes relating to Christ...……..isn't that so occult operative.

Eh? You keep mentioning these codes, but never produce and links to verify your claims.
 
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