do you believe humans gets thinking from genies (spirits) who wins and gives you thinking

[God Ahmed]

RabbiO I am not proving that I am true to only Abrahamic religions but to all religions on this planet, well yes my religion is believerism. Once you came to know you must fokkfollow truth.

Don't you feel your fate in your stomach gives you thinking or the spirits comes in your body and forces to think and you could not do anything because human is sensitive.

Ask with spiritual leaders what is truth, people have there life to god but doesn't knows whether there god we true or fake.

I am using my mobile to write so it's adding automatic phrases I tried to write mother tounge.

If you have communication with spirit ask them what is truth by mentioning what i wrote here regarding Adam and Eve.

Truth wins and I won in this debate. Because those who knows what I am talking about already checked from sources that I am true.

If humans doesn't knows truth that how and why they think like anything they must know the truth so they can win. I am sinless.

God is not like evil who ask why you have sinned after putting fate in stomach to sin.

 

[Burl]

...if human sins why god says human has sinned when Hz makes his fate to sin and god says he never let anyone do sin, did you get my point.

Ok so we are sinless until we do something that is against our conscience, thru temptation by Jinn, and we are forgiven because we know it was wrong and try not to do it again.
...and as this process repeats we become stronger in avoiding sin.

 

[God Ahmed]

You didn't understood me very well, what spirits made your fate you think like your fate is made so if god says you sinned then he is not god he is evil who lies and on liars believe doesn't comes, according to me humans cannot do sins. It's djinns spirits who forces humans to sin like Adam ate apple. Did anyone asked god what was in Adam fate and why he ate apple it's because everything in human happens from stomach with which you feel and think and brought from dream to reality.

 

[ukok102nak]

@ God Ahmed


no your not sinless
and that is
the final truth
meaning even saying something in a solemn and emphatic manner
that you are sinless
doesnt take the truth that every living person who were in their rightful thinking has their own shortcoming that sometimes could take them unto a situation liked accidently putting a curse unto people by means of their words which always happened on a very traffic area and when somebody got angry
somebody start to lost their temper
and sin (we've seen someone before on a national tv
been shoot because of this traffic . . . probably that's one curse
we should avoid and that's also one of our opinion)

this proved that the truth is not in you
and
that is a win win situation and a total victory for the one who is good
and who doesnt lie
(as it is written carefully check every single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong)
:read:
And Uzziah prepared for them throughout all the host shields, and spears, and helmets, and habergeons, and bows, and slings to cast stones.
And he made in Jerusalem engines, invented by cunning men, to be on the towers and upon the bulwarks, to shoot arrows and great stones likewise. And his name spread far abroad; for he was marvellously helped, till he was strong.
But when he was strong, his heart was lifted up to his destruction: for he transgressed against the LORD his God, and went into the temple of the LORD to burn incense upon the altar of incense.

~;> that's why
anyone could said something like this
I know I cant rely on your discretion
cause if we tackle about what is spiritual
therefore a written Word
from a spiritual enties must be supply first
so that one could distinguish special communication to man for the spirit is immeasurably superior to all other supposed revelations
(such as this as it is written carefully check every single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong)
:read:
Shall even he that hates right govern? and will you condemn him that is most just?
Is it fit to say to a king, You are wicked? and to princes, All of you are ungodly?
How much less to him that accepts not the persons of princes, nor regards the rich more than the poor? for they all are the work of his hands.

. ... (so as it is written carefully check every single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong)
:read:
For not he that commends himself is approved, but whom the Lord commends.

. ... and that's one of
many faith that we have
as much as those human opinion
for there is much diffirent from one's opinion unto another
and by giving an opinion a opinion could also be accepted or in a vice versa
also
everyone could give their opinion
as anyone here could do that but with respect and humility as this is
also our opinion
so you may read it
as this writtings
proves more substancial fact
when it comes to a RELIGIOUS DEBATE
about why someone must not
put any remark nor indulge unto any
idle gossip without any basis
and we base our answer
unto a form of question such as this
when did those djinn travel from one place to another then ended up in the stomach cause this really tickle a lot

~;> as they say
for the truth about those djinn
does not act in accordance with a wish
as those who thought is was
that it is something liked
what they've seen on a movie
with their popcorn and drinks
on their stomach or whatever
they desire to bring while watching

.. . . as for someone who brings light
unto someone's religion
you not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without enters into the man, it cannot defile him;
Because it enters not into his heart, but into the belly, and goes out into the draught, purging all meats?
and not with any spirit
who tickle inside there
for if we put it unto something spiritual
this would be our recommendation
(as it is written carefully check every single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong)
:read:
whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.

.. . . and
for not being a bias
its only fair to ask first
what's on your mind about this question
where those djinns mind earthly things?


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godbless
unto all always

 

[Burl]

humans cannot do sins. It's djinns spirits who forces humans to sin

+
We sin because we are forced to, and then we are forgiven if we know we sinned, so our sins are not revisited upon us. And we become stronger in our resistance.

 

[ukok102nak]

+
We sin because we are forced to, and then we are forgiven if we know we sinned, so our sins are not revisited upon us. And we become stronger in our resistance.

:smoke: indeed
and that's a win for the truth
who is good and who is doesnt lie


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godbless
unto all always

 

[Burl]

we not come to disobey, but to fulfill.

Apollyon plays a role in the fulfilling, so some actors must have less free-will regarding their actions. Argument has no effect in those cases.

 

[ukok102nak]

Apollyon plays a role in the fulfilling, so some actors must have less free-will regarding their actions. Argument has no effect in those cases.

indeed
although the deeps of its existence
comes from the freewill
of the creator itself
and
still its a goodthing for him to have his creator's good freewill and fulfill it . ...


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godbless
unto all always

 

[God Ahmed]

Either you didn't went through my posts carefully or you didn't understood what I am trying to explain.

Did your religion ever told you our human lives runs through thinking, thinking in the sense thinking being generated from your mind.

Humans gets thinking from what they have stored from there religion and that's why every single person in the world says everything happens by god to humans, where if anyone sins it is included in there fate and god cannot lie by asking why you have sinned because he only put fate in stomach of human when trying to make a human living.

Liars looses and truth gives victory, I think you must research from those who are lovers of God who have spirits and can answer truly what is truth.

Don't just mention verses it's not going to help you if verses spirits are lie those verses spirits looses because they are not true.

 

[ukok102nak]

Either you didn't went through my posts carefully or you didn't understood what I am trying to explain.

Did your religion ever told you our human lives runs through thinking, thinking in the sense thinking being generated from your mind.

Humans gets thinking from what they have stored from there religion and that's why every single person in the world says everything happens by god to humans, where if anyone sins it is included in there fate and god cannot lie by asking why you have sinned because he only put fate in stomach of human when trying to make a human living.

Liars looses and truth gives victory, I think you must research from those who are lovers of God who have spirits and can answer truly what is truth.

Don't just mention verses it's not going to help you if verses spirits are lie those verses spirits looses because they are not true.

If humans doesn't knows truth that how and why they think like anything they must know the truth so they can win. I am sinless.

so
your sinless
perhaps that's your own opinion
and
this is our opinion too
that your not sinless after all
(this tickle a lot)
but
we are very certain
that we understood it
truthfully
nothing more nothing less

also
just a single question so that you may answer briefly
and for the sake of not being bias
as you'll have all the luxury of time here in this reality
for being sinless according to you
so that you may consider to think about how someone could proclaimed itself as SINLESS
when he thinks something more on winning and victory
that is why we are askin you now
are you truthfully faithful unto your words
that you really understood what your saying now
that your sinless
regarding from what you've said before
that your belief were base
from those group of people known to have a religion which is believerism

RabbiO I am not proving that I am true to only Abrahamic religions but to all religions on this planet, well yes my religion is believerism. Once you came to know you must fokkfollow truth.

kindly answer this first
are you truthfully faithful unto your words
that you really understood what your saying now
that your sinless
regarding from what you've said before
that your belief were base
from those group of people known to have a religion which is believerism
cause your just
jumping every question and
jumping unto every possible means of clarification from
what your OP
really stands for


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godbless
unto all always

 

[ukok102nak]

~;> so what happeneds to the djinn
are they preaching now or what . . ..

.. . . by the way
we never consider that our faith is the same religion nor any religion that
you were mentioning
a while a go

*also
we learned to accept that having a religion or
not having a religion is not a sin
and we also accept that we're sinners cause we're
not perfect and not all knowing
for humans has their limitation after all
that is
what we meant
eversince humans made their own stand
against gods nor humans or even beast and
even unto the unknown kind of things
within this plane of existence
for within this reality there is a specific law
a legally specified period beyond which an action may be defeated or a property right is not to continue
for example everyone wants to live forever
or to be forever young and anyone could tell you
that it is impossible to live forever
with a body that is fragile cause we are all made of flesh
that's what we meant of this law
and not that kind of law
that we hope you dont take for granted

but still its a good thing to know
our limitation
despite of the law of the physical attributes which is literally came from our temporal existence


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godbless
unto all always

 

[Milton Platt]

I see no reason to assume there is such a thing as spiritis. Or God, for that matter.

Yeah, what you said.....

 

[ukok102nak]

@God Ahmed

:smoke: since
your having an affection or liking for
the truth
then
would you kindly specified the truth
from a literally physical substance unto the spiritually mystical significant
that is
in accordance with your faith
for
many shall run back and forth, and knowledge shall be increased.
but even all things were change from
one thing to another
we will never forget to humble ourselves unto what is good and who cannot lie
with the only begotten son of god
along with all that is holy
as is written carefully check every
single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong)
:read:
Remember, O LORD, your tender mercies and your loving kindnesses; for they have been ever of old.
7 Remember not the sins of my youth, nor my transgressions: according to your mercy remember you me for your goodness' sake, O LORD.
8 Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.
9 The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.
10 All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.

and i will listen unto your testimonies
this i promise unto you
but dont expect anything unto me that i'll
agree unto every detail that you shall say
for everyone
has their own truth to tell


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godbless
unto all always

Either you didn't went through my posts carefully or you didn't understood what I am trying to explain.

Did your religion ever told you our human lives runs through thinking, thinking in the sense thinking being generated from your mind.

Humans gets thinking from what they have stored from there religion and that's why every single person in the world says everything happens by god to humans, where if anyone sins it is included in there fate and god cannot lie by asking why you have sinned because he only put fate in stomach of human when trying to make a human living.

Liars looses and truth gives victory, I think you must research from those who are lovers of God who have spirits and can answer truly what is truth.

Don't just mention verses it's not going to help you if verses spirits are lie those verses spirits looses because they are not true.

 

[Pudding]

My debate is here and its

Do you believe humans gets thinking from genies (spirits) who wins and gives you thinking on victory.

No, i don't believe.

If you wish to convince people to believe you, it may help if you can present evidence which is repeatable and verifiable.

Please debate, i am proving here to be sinless. Those who doubts on me doubts on god of universe.

Where is your proof?

 

[God Ahmed]

I told everyone here with Adam and Eve example how sins happens with humans and that I'd the proof of being sinless, the one who tells truth to God's people.

From the beginning human was fooled who accepted they sinned without knowing truth from the world of god and that god who is always perfect and not like evil didn't tell truth to its people by saying believe in my holy books which is of truth.

Don't you think you don't get believe on lie stories which Holy books mentions that it's book of god who never lies.

I don't want to hurt anyone but tell truth.

I am sinless and god who proves truth in high courts.

 

[psychoslice]

I personally see the whole idea of genies silly, sorry.

 

[ukok102nak]

@God Ahmed

:smoke: from the very beginning of the creation of the first human
as it is written the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
adam is not sin within this period of time

when eve was been created through adam
so as it is written carefully check every
single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong
:read:
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an associated helper for him.
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an associated helper for him.

And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

*also during that time
adam and eve were not considered as sinners
after only they eat the forbidden
fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden ... . . .

as what we've seen until now
you tell something about adam and eve
typically without providing evidence and proof or
any write-up that published by any author
which a full written account could be classify
or anything documented
record (something) in written,
photographic, or other form
such as books , comics , magazines or
movie title nor theatrical events and so on
etc etc bla bla bla
but perhaps maybe a testament of will
will do for a while
as a last will documented testament of any person's will that his words were true before goin to sleep
hope you manage to digest all the the things we suggest unto you and
anything that we've mentioned were not meant to hurt your feellings
we only do that so that
you may just convince us even a little bit
that your adam and eve theory
made you a SINLESS human being
and also we recommend that
perhaps you should clarify further what you claimed

~;> as is written carefully check every
single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong
:read:
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the embodiment of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

. ... that's the basis of our belief that every humans commits a sin
if humans is in their rightfully mind
because we cannot put a sin unto anyone who is innocent . ...


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godbless
unto all always

 

[God Ahmed]

its not idea but a fact. Everyone wants to believe to have true faith but not having faith of evil.

If god has put in adam and eve fate to think bad and eat apple why would he tell in the holy books that adam and eve sinned and listen to holy books your sins will be washed.

God is perfect am i right ? yes god is perfect but he is not being remembered by fake stories from holy books which never tells truth to its believers.

let me explain you once again.

everything happens by god in the world which every spirit believes to be true, but does sins happens or commanded by god for humans ? why would god force anyone to do sin and ask why you have sinned ? its an evil act. If god does like what i am saying then he is not god but just a lie spirit and he will never have purity.

knowing something and keeping it a secret is not a big deal, but to have a beautiful faith and living in truth life is beautiful, where we come to know revelation that sins are also forcely done by god or commanded by god to humans and remember we humans have a hope to know truth so we want an answer from god saying yes, i am god and i have commanded you to sin by keeping spirits in your body. That is why human loses temptation when spirits wins from human and we humans never want to know anything then listening truth from god. Because god made the planet on truth like if anyone is truth he wins, so i am truth here from abrahamic religions and all other religions who keeps in fate to sin or if any spirits comes in body of human and forces them to sin then spirit must be called sinners but not humans and those humans who are fools who doesnt believes in god just says yes i have sinned without knowing whether spirits were inside there body or mind and forced them do sins.

 

[ukok102nak]

as they say
as it is written carefully check every
single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong
:read:
This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and brings forth a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he brings forth sons and daughters:
And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and brings forth Enos:
And Seth lived after he brings forth Enos eight hundred and seven years, and brings forth sons and daughters:
And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died.
And Enos lived ninety years, and brings forth Cainan:
And Enos lived after he brings forth Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and brings forth sons and daughters:
And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died.
And Cainan lived seventy years and brings forth Mahalaleel:
And Cainan lived after he brings forth Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and brings forth sons and daughters:
And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died.
And Mahalaleel lived sixty and five years, and brings forth Jared:
And Mahalaleel lived after he brings forth Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and brings forth sons and daughters:
And all the days of Mahalaleel were eight hundred ninety and five years: and he died.
And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he brings forth Enoch:
And Jared lived after he brings forth Enoch eight hundred years, and brings forth sons and daughters:
And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.
And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and brings forth Methuselah:
And Enoch walked with God after he brings forth Methuselah three hundred years, and brings forth sons and daughters:
And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and brings forth Lamech.
And Methuselah lived after he brings forth Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and brings forth sons and daughters:
And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.
And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and brings forth a son:
And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD has cursed.
And Lamech lived after he brings forth Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and brings forth sons and daughters:
And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.
And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah brings forth Shem, Ham, and Japheth.


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godbless
unto all always

 

[God Ahmed]

ukok102nak

please check if in adam and eve had a fate to sin if they didnt had a fate then those people who says everything happens by god is lie.

also make a note : you need to prove those religions which runs lives of humans by giving fate and storing those fate in there body find out how they runs it. According to spiritual world of god, different religions keeps fate of humans in there stomach with which human thinks on living and that is the only truth.

A liar is a sinner who first puts fate in human body to run lives according to them then says have you sinned and says i have sent human who will takes your sins and i will forgive your sins.

Just like playing a game to be popular. God is never liar if he is liar then nobody gets believe in him, i dont understand from 1000's of years how people are believing in god who lied by sending holy books which were not of truth or simply to live eternal life they believe the stories is truth because spirits are keeping those holy books in there mind.

If anyone on this topic thinks who have communication in spiritual world of god that i am right then please make me rich, beautiful and give me happiness and joy immediately which is not taken by anyone and give me beautiful partners.

Truth Wins always.