do you believe humans gets thinking from genies (spirits) who wins and gives you thinking

[ukok102nak]

will you kindly show us
where did you get the idea of
god has put in adam and eve fate to think bad and eat apple


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godbless
unto all always

its not idea but a fact. Everyone wants to believe to have true faith but not having faith of evil.

If god has put in adam and eve fate to think bad and eat apple why would he tell in the holy books that adam and eve sinned and listen to holy books your sins will be washed.

God is perfect am i right ? yes god is perfect but he is not being remembered by fake stories from holy books which never tells truth to its believers.

let me explain you once again.

everything happens by god in the world which every spirit believes to be true, but does sins happens or commanded by god for humans ? why would god force anyone to do sin and ask why you have sinned ? its an evil act. If god does like what i am saying then he is not god but just a lie spirit and he will never have purity.

knowing something and keeping it a secret is not a big deal, but to have a beautiful faith and living in truth life is beautiful, where we come to know revelation that sins are also forcely done by god or commanded by god to humans and remember we humans have a hope to know truth so we want an answer from god saying yes, i am god and i have commanded you to sin by keeping spirits in your body. That is why human loses temptation when spirits wins from human and we humans never want to know anything then listening truth from god. Because god made the planet on truth like if anyone is truth he wins, so i am truth here from abrahamic religions and all other religions who keeps in fate to sin or if any spirits comes in body of human and forces them to sin then spirit must be called sinners but not humans and those humans who are fools who doesnt believes in god just says yes i have sinned without knowing whether spirits were inside there body or mind and forced them do sins.

 

[Burl]

Do you believe humans gets thinking from genies (spirits) who wins and gives you thinking

~;> so what happeneds to the djinn
are they preaching now or what . . ..

Yes.

 

[God Ahmed]

ukok102nak

i know that everything happens to humans happens by god and when a kid is born, god makes his fate to think good and think bad.

Since this thread is on discussion of getting thinking from god i had want spiritual leaders to answer those who talks with spirits or djinns to find out what is truth and tell me.

I came to know this but i am not getting belief to accept truth that god gives in kid fate to sin or do blessings and later ask have you sinned otherwise if i believe in god i will be like god who first puts fate in human to sin and then ask have you sinned. Just like evil.

Are you understanding my point.

Now that i have won in this debate, guys can anyone teach me how to control our self after knowing truth, that its god only or spirits (djinns) who first puts in fate to sin by believing in one god then ask why you have sinned.

Also assure me that i wont become evil after knowing truth and following god. Because i will be doing same what god is doing to humans.

 

[ukok102nak]

probably you already knew that
even on a RELIGIOUS DEBATES you need to supply a documented statement which is necessary unto your belief or
your arguments shall only be noted as base on a hearsay
think about it for a while
where did you get those opinions
are they only a product of
your own thoughts or you've heard it unto someone who has a basis on their opinions

.. . and also
about your faith
did you just manage to bring them all by your self only
something like appointing
your personal faith
without even examining
whether if it is true or not
and do you mind to this kind of thing
just like you buy and do not count your change before you leave

. . . as it is written carefully check every
single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong
:read:
And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consists not in the abundance of the things which he possesses.

ukok102nak

please check if in adam and eve had a fate to sin if they didnt had a fate then those people who says everything happens by god is lie.

also make a note : you need to prove those religions which runs lives of humans by giving fate and storing those fate in there body find out how they runs it. According to spiritual world of god, different religions keeps fate of humans in there stomach with which human thinks on living and that is the only truth.

A liar is a sinner who first puts fate in human body to run lives according to them then says have you sinned and says i have sent human who will takes your sins and i will forgive your sins.

Just like playing a game to be popular. God is never liar if he is liar then nobody gets believe in him, i dont understand from 1000's of years how people are believing in god who lied by sending holy books which were not of truth or simply to live eternal life they believe the stories is truth because spirits are keeping those holy books in there mind.

If anyone on this topic thinks who have communication in spiritual world of god that i am right then please make me rich, beautiful and give me happiness and joy immediately which is not taken by anyone and give me beautiful partners.

Truth Wins always.

ukok102nak

i know that everything happens to humans happens by god and when a kid is born, god makes his fate to think good and think bad.

Since this thread is on discussion of getting thinking from god i had want spiritual leaders to answer those who talks with spirits or djinns to find out what is truth and tell me.

I came to know this but i am not getting belief to accept truth that god gives in kid fate to sin or do blessings and later ask have you sinned otherwise if i believe in god i will be like god who first puts fate in human to sin and then ask have you sinned. Just like evil.

Are you understanding my point.

Now that i have won in this debate, guys can anyone teach me how to control our self after knowing truth, that its god only or spirits (djinns) who first puts in fate to sin by believing in one god then ask why you have sinned.

Also assure me that i wont become evil after knowing truth and following god. Because i will be doing same what god is doing to humans.

 

[God Ahmed]

I told you only truth, if you have god spirits ask them what is truth then you will know that i was telling truth only. Because the living happens like the way i told you.

I am god and sinless.

 

[ukok102nak]

as it is written carefully check every
single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong
:read:
Beloved, believe not every spirit, a but try the spirits b whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

although there's so many gods
with accordance unto the holy scriptures
as it is written carefully check every
single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong
:read:
God stands in the congregation of the mighty; he judges among the gods.

Blessed is that man that makes the LORD his trust, and respects not the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies.
Many, O LORD my God, are your wonderful works which you have done, and your thoughts which are toward us: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto you: if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered.
Sacrifice and offering you did not desire; mine ears have you opened: burnt offering and sin offering have you not required.
Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
I delight to do your will, O my God: yea, your law is within my heart.

with this tachlis: to establish your levavot faultless in kedusha (holiness) in the presence of Hashem and Avinu at the Bias of Adoneinu Yehoshua with all His Kedoshim. Omein.

in order that he may establish your hearts unblamable in holiness before God, our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all his holy ones.

now
how on earth
would you prepare yourself
to be known as one of those gods
(this is surprisingly really getting something unexpected
which promising little from its first appearance, when open abounds with all sorts of variety. )


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godbless
unto all always

I told you only truth, if you have god spirits ask them what is truth then you will know that i was telling truth only. Because the living happens like the way i told you.

I am god and sinless.

 

[God Ahmed]

I proved I am god and sinless by showing everyone what is truth. Can you prove from your holy book who is god and when he will tell you truth about him.

I challenge your holy book if it is true book of god let me enter into spiritual world so I can see god in sky made of light like your holy book believers sees.

I am waiting, now don't tell me you don't think so god doesn't knows about me. I want the spirits of the world to bless anyone and protect even if humans doesn't thinks, thought or understand anything.

If there is any true spirit of your holy book ask them what is truth and accept the ugly truth.

 

[ukok102nak]

you would only put yourself
unto somekind of
a difficult, unpleasant, or embarrassing situation.
when you declared a challenge unto something
that you most to seek
and
since you've shown your capabilities from the moment you've posted
this arguments of yours
where you cant even give a exact details
from this very question
meaning
then the whole thing is settled starting from that point
until at this very moment of time
and also
your not punctual from recognizing it at all
that's why
we ask you first
but then again
you cant even answer
your own given statement and
here's the very solid evidence
BELOW THIS VERY WRITINGS
as it is written carefully check every
single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong
:read:

will you kindly show us
where did you get the idea of
god has put in adam and eve fate to think bad and eat apple


:ty:



godbless
unto all always

If god has put in adam and eve fate to think bad and eat apple why would he tell in the holy books that adam and eve sinned and listen to holy books
your sins will be washed.

by the way (this is another story and
it is outside from the grasp of
your own predicament)

what do you think about the headlines
talking saying telling about the latest attack in syria
and
about this so called
the extent of the US' hidden homelessness problem

this is a not a OFFTOPIC SITUATION
CAUSE IF YOU COULD REMEMBER
A WHILE AGO
YOU ARE TALKING SAYING TELLING THIS KIND OF THING
as it is written carefully check every
single on it
and correct us if we are wrong

I am god and sinless.

I proved I am god and sinless by showing everyone what is truth. Can you prove from your holy book who is god and when he will tell you truth about him.

I challenge your holy book if it is true book of god let me enter into spiritual world so I can see god in sky made of light like your holy book believers sees.

I am waiting, now don't tell me you don't think so god doesn't knows about me. I want the spirits of the world to bless anyone and protect even if humans doesn't thinks, thought or understand anything.

If there is any true spirit of your holy book ask them what is truth and accept the ugly truth.

 

[God Ahmed]

Please research from your religion spirits and from those who witnesses truth that holy book Is true.

 

[ukok102nak]

Please research from your religion spirits and from those who witnesses truth that holy book Is true.

why dont you try to focus
on this first


you would only put yourself
unto somekind of
a difficult, unpleasant, or embarrassing situation.
when you declared a challenge unto something
that you most to seek
and
since you've shown your capabilities from the moment you've posted
this arguments of yours
where you cant even give a exact details
from this very question
meaning
then the whole thing is settled starting from that point
until at this very moment of time
and also
your not punctual from recognizing it at all
that's why
we ask you first
but then again
you cant even answer
your own given statement and
here's the very solid evidence
BELOW THIS VERY WRITINGS
as it is written carefully check every
single detail on it
then kindly correct us if we are wrong
:read:

will you kindly show us
where did you get the idea of
god has put in adam and eve fate to think bad and eat apple


:ty:



godbless
unto all always

If god has put in adam and eve fate to think bad and eat apple why would he tell in the holy books that adam and eve sinned and listen to holy books
your sins will be washed.

by the way (this is another story and
it is outside from the grasp of
your own predicament)
what do you think about the headlines
talking saying telling about the latest attack in syria
and
about this so called
the extent of the US' hidden homelessness problem

this is a not a OFFTOPIC SITUATION
CAUSE IF YOU COULD REMEMBER
A WHILE AGO
YOU ARE TALKING SAYING TELLING THIS KIND OF THING
as it is written carefully check every
single detail on it
and correct us if we are wrong

I am god and sinless.

I proved I am god and sinless by showing everyone what is truth. Can you prove from your holy book who is god and when he will tell you truth about him.

I challenge your holy book if it is true book of god let me enter into spiritual world so I can see god in sky made of light like your holy book believers sees.

I am waiting, now don't tell me you don't think so god doesn't knows about me. I want the spirits of the world to bless anyone and protect even if humans doesn't thinks, thought or understand anything.

If there is any true spirit of your holy book ask them what is truth and accept the ugly truth.

 

[ukok102nak]

why would i do that or
should we say WHY SHOULD WE
when someone here proclaiming
itself as god and sinless

as they say
what an opportuniy to ask a god and especially
a sinless

Please research from your religion spirits and from those who witnesses truth that holy book Is true.

 

[Burl]

God stands in the congregation of the mighty

God stands in the congregation of the Jinn.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

ukok102nak

i know that everything happens to humans happens by god and when a kid is born, god makes his fate to think good and think bad.

Since this thread is on discussion of getting thinking from god i had want spiritual leaders to answer those who talks with spirits or djinns to find out what is truth and tell me.

I came to know this but i am not getting belief to accept truth that god gives in kid fate to sin or do blessings and later ask have you sinned otherwise if i believe in god i will be like god who first puts fate in human to sin and then ask have you sinned. Just like evil.

Are you understanding my point.

Now that i have won in this debate, guys can anyone teach me how to control our self after knowing truth, that its god only or spirits (djinns) who first puts in fate to sin by believing in one god then ask why you have sinned.

Also assure me that i wont become evil after knowing truth and following god. Because i will be doing same what god is doing to humans.

So if I've understood you correctly, you believe that God has already decided in advance whether we think (or do) good or bad things. And that sinning means choosing to go against God. Therefore, since we have not chosen to go against God (because God has already chosen our fate for us), we are sinless.

Is that what you are saying?

 

[YmirGF]

So if I've understood you correctly, you believe that God has already decided in advance whether we think (or do) good or bad things. And that sinning means choosing to go against God. Therefore, since we have not chosen to go against God (because God has already chosen our fate for us), we are sinless.

Is that what you are saying?

If everything is decided to begin with it that definitely makes our existence rather pointless. One would think a god would understand the implications.

The things that pass for thought in some minds, eh?

 

[Muffled]

Ok so we are sinless until we do something that is against our conscience, thru temptation by Jinn, and we are forgiven because we know it was wrong and try not to do it again.
...and as this process repeats we become stronger in avoiding sin.

I don't believe that is quite the case. The mind is a blank slate neither good nor evil until it is written upon by teachers and influenced by the person's spirit. Supposedly the person's spirit has more influence over a child's mind which is why children tend to fantasize. (The person's spirit usually likes to fantasize) Children also tend to be more sensitive to other spirits probably through their own spirit.

I believe there are two ways to look at conscience. 1. The mind has learned that some things are forbidden 2. The spirit has learned that some things are forbidden. I believe since the consciences are learned experiences that they can be good or evil.

 

[viole]

My debate is here and its

Do you believe humans gets thinking from genies (spirits) who wins and gives you thinking on victory.

For example : you are in a religion and you get thinking of everything from that genie who gives you thinking upon how much you pray or if your life becomes bad because you did sins like when a genie (spirits) tries to give you happy life he sees if you true by seeing you prayed for god and he makes you rich and if some genie (spirit) who is against you who says you sinned upon your thinking says your life must become bad so 2 genies (spirits) one who tries to give good life and one genies (spirits) who tries to give bad life wins by seeing they are true upon your thinking who wins gives your life good or bad.

BUT

dont you think sins are forcely done by genie (spirits) to humans because there religion gives you thinking of good and bad.

IF

human have control on there thinking then they would have never sinned, dont you think that ?

Please debate, i am proving here to be sinless. Those who doubts on me doubts on god of universe.

I completely agree that many sins are induced by spirits.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Muffled]

+
We sin because we are forced to, and then we are forgiven if we know we sinned, so our sins are not revisited upon us. And we become stronger in our resistance.

I believe some people sin because of the lust of the flesh. There are some people who do not live by the spirit or by their minds but allow the desires of the flesh to control them.

 

[Burl]

I don't believe that is quite the case

If Jinn submit to the will of Man then the subversion of Man is part of the Game, starting with the young minds of course.

 

[arcanum]

It ceases to amaze me how delusional and confused the Abrahamic faiths can make some people . . .

Um, Damien, were you not raised in an Abraham faith or were you simply born in an enlightened family by your Luciferian by mommy and daddy?

 

[EtuMalku]

Um, Damien, were you not raised in an Abraham faith or were you simply born in an enlightened family by your Luciferian by mommy and daddy?

Who is Damien?