Do You Believe In God, Why? Don't You Believe In God, Why?

[Moses_UK]

Yes, it can and does happen. I seriously doubt if very many do so voluntarily. In fact this is a common problem for women that marry Muslims, they are forced to marry and then cannot divorce without their husband's consent in the religion:

What are Muslim women’s options in religious divorce?

Are we talking about western caucasian women? which part of the world are you from?

 

[Moses_UK]

If I do that if one fails the they all fail:

Countries ranked by Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people)

They all fail.

Even if the website is accurate, what does that prove? all the top 50 countries are secular democratic (either forced or chosen) countries.

 

[Moses_UK]

Yes, it can and does happen. I seriously doubt if very many do so voluntarily. In fact this is a common problem for women that marry Muslims, they are forced to marry and then cannot divorce without their husband's consent in the religion:

What are Muslim women’s options in religious divorce?

The discussion was about converts to Islam. We were speaking about the growth of Islam, especially in the west.
All western-educated/born Muslim women marry using the laws of the land they live in. If they live in the US they marry using American law, and if they marry in the UK, they use UK law. If you're from the west you would know how much rights women have (Muslims and Non-Muslim) in these countries.

so why would a woman who comes from the US and understands the laws of the land accept her rights being taken?
if those converts really believed what you believe they would have run a mile

 

[Audie]

How do my factual statements make me a trickster? I don't know which part of the world your from, but I need to tell you Muslims have rights in most western countries and you shouldn't be surprised that Muslims have a voice.

That not what a shill is, and you evaded the quedtion.

Unlike in a islamic country theres a right to spew garbage here.

Why dont you go preach a bit of christianity
and say "mohammed" is a bacon-eater in
Pakistan or SA if islam is so terrif. They wont mind
and we will be plessed for you.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The discussion was about converts to Islam. We were speaking about the growth of Islam, especially in the west.
All western-educated/born Muslim women marry using the laws of the land they live in. If they live in the US they marry using American law, and if they marry in the UK, they use UK law. If you're from the west you would know how much rights women have (Muslims and Non-Muslim) in these countries.

so why would a woman who comes from the US and understands the laws of the land accept her rights being taken?
if those converts really believed what you believe they would have run a mile

Love can make people temporarily stupid. Well love and lust. When it happens to men we call it thinking with the small head.

 

[Moses_UK]

That not what a shill is, and you evaded the quedtion.

Unlike in a islamic country theres a right to spew garbage here.

Why dont you go preach a bit of christianity
and say "mohammed" is a bacon-eater in
Pakistan or SA if islam is so terrif. They wont mind
and we will be plessed for you.

Islam is different from Muslims. A Muslim can behave any way they wish but Islam is perfect.

go and make some Muslims friends

 

[Moses_UK]

Love can make people temporarily stupid. Well love and lust. When it happens to men we call it thinking with the small head.

Please take some advice from me. Read the Quran or find out some information about the prophet Muhammad. you would be well informed and challenge Muslims or embrace the faith itself.

 

[rational experiences]

The scientist. Ist....the ist quotes the first and lies. Ist he says is 1st.

He is the thinker inside space womb heavenly bio living aware quotes with self human first.

Not an ist or first. Not his God lists.

Then quotes God O mass is inside space womb. Not him. Self displaced as living male in thoughts. Theist lies.

Then says mother God O earth womb spirit came from. Heavenly body.

Is not science Alchemy gas involving minerals for human science beginning machine design.

Water X mass displaced to own presence machine. Used it artificially to cool conversions. Water is natural. Yet mass of natural water is changed.

What he lies about. Displacing water conditions in natural history.
Is aware first.

Knows God O stone mass exists. Natural spiritual mind advice.

Space cold held stone.

No one can argue against that human advice. God in our life. Conscious self human agreed to name stone our God.

Quotes God O never travels in reverse.

Abomination of God forced earth to travel like a sun. Into deeper space returning back to mass in time.

God O in the past was closer to galaxies. Natural presence in space vacuum.

Quotes God themes from aware self quotes if God moves back in time. My god his science thoughts will remain present. As God the stone.

Reversal of God.

Then asked why he got God war attacked life sacrificed by metallic cooling radiation signals that cut his flesh.

Answer you are not God.

Stone falling deeper into space by vacuum remains stone yet origin of sin gone. Life saved. Form of god stone was removed into sink holes. God not saved gone.

Proving that science knew the whole time earth would shift by law of stone breaking. Was aware. Life was sacrificed up until fall of God O earth stopped.

Spatial fall stopped it.

Back in time by law colder space.

Universe had to go into colder space. Deeper space. Pressure in deeper colder space could force earth to explode and scatter like Satan stars O previous held stone mass had.

Science knew.

Deep space is not where origin of stone creation began. What they lie about.

Says God stone will return. Radiation release will stop. By spatial awareness.

God O however changed. Still was releasing unnaturally attacking life. Heart core radiation effect. Machine X mass disappeared itself. The design.

Origin changed into spatial beginnings.

Copying theme. Origin colder higher big bang converted removed higher form increased space presence.

The information copied. Not the reaction. What was inferred the change effect.

Male theist quotes my god O stone thoughts. Stone returned is real. Dont you lie about my god. His retort in science wisdom.

Everyone sacrificed by radiation attack were not lying. The scientist was. The ist a Satan ist. Science ist.

L ist.

Listed converting God O making stone disappear.

Quotes it was magic that God still existed in a brain irradiation. Effect.

Chemical condition.

Coercion and persuasion by words is real relating to maths sophism.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Please take some advice from me. Read the Quran or find out some information about the prophet Muhammad. you would be well informed and challenge Muslims or embrace the faith itself.

Naah, I have already read one book of myths. The Koran does not appear to be any better and it may be worse.

Isn't it odd that whenever theists are asked for evidence for their claims that they cannot seem to find any?

 

[Audie]

Naah, I have already read one book of myths. The Koran does not appear to be any better and it may be worse.

Isn't it odd that whenever theists are asked for evidence for their claims that they cannot seem to find any?

We reccomend a move to ig city

 

[Subduction Zone]

Islam is different from Muslims. A Muslim can behave any way they wish but Islam is perfect.

go and make some Muslims friends

If one wants to claim that something is perfect they take on a huge burden of proof. This is the sort of statement that is in the category "False until proven"

 

[Subduction Zone]

We reccomend a move to ig city

What if one by some miracle supports their claims?

 

[Moses_UK]

Naah, I have already read one book of myths. The Koran does not appear to be any better and it may be worse.

Maybe? or better. Have you read Shakespeare?

Isn't it odd that whenever theists are asked for evidence for their claims that they cannot seem to find any?

 

[Audie]

What if one by some miracle supports their claims?

No miracles are gonna happen here.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I have read some of Shakespeare's works, but not all of them.

Why ask?

 

[Subduction Zone]

No miracles are gonna happen here.

Oh ye of little faith

 

[rational experiences]

Evidence for a theist.

Natural aware first just thinking and observing.

Equal human state anyone can apply.

Aware and thinking.

Then a theist lies says observation informs me.

As observation says everything is natural. He ignores observation.

His lying then says prove it to me.

What satanist theist? About original see in being real. Origin of sin he says....prove it.

Were you original sin in human man?

No. God was.

What observation says so?

A sun he says burning yet sitting in deeper space than form held as a God mass. The only state keeping it present. Cooling.

God O the planet is original sin by thinking upon a sun.

Why he burnt us all to death before. He lied. God is not a sun.
Earth is stone. One body.
Proof. You made original sin disappear into holes.

He knows historic memory satanist I caused space black holes. Why he believes in the invention of them.

Scientist memory actually.

Earth God O his proof sink holes. Removal of origin of sin.

God.

Why he said no man is God as we were never the origin of sin.

What other proof do you need? Our life end in the yep you sure are the destroyer man,?

 

[Heyo]

If what your saying is true, why are nearly all converts to Islam women?

read a book and get educated on the reasons why people convert to Islam.

Do you have sources to back that up?

 

[Heyo]

You use a small % of your brain and you expect to experience or see God? this life is a test for humans who have been given free will. You could decide to hate your creator or worship him.

We currently have a thread running about people not answering question. As I stated there, I won't press you on the question and instead accept your resignation of the debate.

 

[ratiocinator]

basically all humans die. To show dying humans a landscape that's beautiful... is love, in my opinion.
Some children die.
I compare it to going to cinema and leaving it half an hour later, as horrible as it may be.

Sometimes I look at things Christians (I don't suppose it's unique to them but it's usually been in my experience) and am just horrified at the degree to which they can ignore horrific actions and injustice just because it's connected to their god.

Which gap the LUCA is filling you ask?
Luca (and first life on earth in general terms) is filling the gap of explaining how life came into existence.

Except that isn't what it's there to explain - that's abiogenesis, which really is an unknown at the moment. LUCA is postulated because of all the evidence that all life is related. There might have been multiple abiogenesis events and multiple 'trees of life' but that doesn't seem to be the case from the current evidence, hence we have the common ancestor theory.

this in and of itself can't count as evidence for the LUCA, I think, unless you find the same traces elsewhere, I mean in other animals... and this is what I call similarities.

No, of course not by itself, as I said, this is just a tiny example of the sorts of evidence we see across species.