Do you believe in the death penalty?

[metis]

Some people simply do not deserve to continue to live in our world.

Being a Jew, I've heard this song before.

 

[Ekleipsis]

How would you explain the death penalty to aliens ?

 

[Sapiens]

Do I "believe" in the death penalty? Of course I do. There is no doubt that it exists.

Do I support the death penalty? Absolutely not.

 

[metis]

How would you explain the death penalty to aliens ?

How about "We are going to kill people who kill people to show that killing people is wrong?". Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

 

[Ingledsva]

Being a Jew, I've heard this song before.

Out of context.

Jews were killed for being Jews. This is wrong.

Would you prefer that Hitler wasn't killed (if he was?) Or his generals taken to court and receiving the death penalty?

I personally believe all people whom are not feeble in the brain department - know that murder is wrong, - and they know the laws, - and thus they have made the CHOICE to be executed when they commit atrocities.

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[Fire_Monkey]

How would you explain the death penalty to aliens ?

No need to. Since we have yet to speak with them or had them ask any questions.

Or did you mean illegal aliens? Which is really just a liberal euphemism for criminal trespassers.

 

[metis]

Out of context.

Jews were killed for being Jews. This is wrong.

Actually it's not out of context because the issue I'm referring to is the killing of a person that in reality is not a necessity based on self-defense or the defense of society. Therefore, imo, it is unethical to kill another person if there's a viable alternative, and in a civilized society, there are alternatives.

Would you prefer that Hitler wasn't killed (if he was?) Or his generals taken to court and receiving the death penalty?

Life in prison with no parole is my preference in cases like this.

I personally believe all people whom are not feeble in the brain department - know that murder is wrong, - and they know the laws, - and thus they have made the CHOICE to be executed when they commit atrocities.

Many murders are what the criminologists call "crimes of passion", therefore there are often contributing factors often involving the ultimate victim. Now, this does not excuse the murder, however.

We do have a CHOICE, namely do we want to take a step much like the killer did and unnecessarily kill someone, or do we want to put the killer away whereas he cannot be a menace to society again?

Also, we know very well that people can reform and change their ways, which is one of the base beliefs of the Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.

 

[columbus]

Life in prison with no parole is my preference in cases like this.

One of the few exceptions to my otherwise ProLife opinions about capital punishment would include people like Hitler. There are people who can keep causing death and mayhem while firmly prevented from doing it themselves. Those people need to be executed.
Tom

 

[metis]

One of the few exceptions to my otherwise ProLife opinions about capital punishment would include people like Hitler. There are people who can keep causing death and mayhem while firmly prevented from doing it themselves. Those people need to be executed.
Tom

I understand and can respect your opinion even though I disagree with it.

BTW, what you have espoused is really more the paradigm that the Israeli's and a great many of my fellow Jews take, namely that the death penalty should be reserved only for those who are involved with multiple or mass murders because they show no respect whatsoever for human life.

 

[columbus]

BTW, what you have espoused is really more the paradigm that the Israeli's and a great many of my fellow Jews take, namely that the death penalty should be reserved only for those who are involved with multiple or mass murders because they show no respect whatsoever for human life.

Perhaps you are misunderstanding my position. It isn't about what they did or believed before they were apprehended and imprisoned. It's about what could happen despite them being in prison. Some people, like criminal gang leaders and violent ideologues with a following might inspire or even order yet more murders while in prison.
So, those people could be shot and I'd be OK with it.
Tom

 

[metis]

Some people, like criminal gang leaders and violent ideologues with a following might inspire or even order yet more murders while in prison.
So, those people could be shot and I'd be OK with it.

If we allow ourselves to slip into the "what could happen" paradigm and act on it, then maybe we should just start executing people for any crime-- or any violent crime-- or...

We cannot control the future, and the "Jack the Ripper" of today could be the "Mother Theresa" of tomorrow, although some surgery would have to be performed.

 

[columbus]

If we allow ourselves to slip into the "what could happen" paradigm and act on it, then maybe we should just start executing people for any crime-- or any violent crime-- or...

We cannot control the future, and the "Jack the Ripper" of today could be the "Mother Theresa" of tomorrow, although some surgery would have to be performed.

I totally get what you're saying here. I seriously wrestle with that aspect of the problem.
Similarly, I wrestle with opposing elective abortion in a world that is already dangerously overpopulated.

I struggle with many of my own ProLife beliefs. I try to err on the side of caution when I am contemplating matters of literal life and death. I find myself coming down on the side of "Shoot'em and be done with it" when it seems the alternative is choosing to let them kill and destroy even after they're in prison.
No clear answer
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

A candidate for the death penalty.
(the perp....not the kitty.)
Cat Recovering After Lit Firecracker In Rectum...