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Do you believe that Donald trump is telling the truth

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And how is Trump honest? He's easily the most dishonest president in my life time, and it would be an accomplishment for any future presidents to beat him in the dishonesty department.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I believe to be a successful politician, one has to be an authentic liar. The better one can lie and seem authentic about what they are saying, the more votes they will get.
Not necessarily. If we look at Obama, he didn't often flat out lie, but he was a master of carefully wording things, half truths, and choosy with references. That tends to be a safe place for politicians, because it becomes harder to say they lied, and instead you have to dig through stuff to find out "well, it's not wrong, but it's not exactly accurate either."
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The jury i still out, but there is a strong possibility of the violation of campaign laws, conflict of interest, US and State of New York tax laws.
And of course Trump University, an out right scam to make money rather than get people into business.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I'm proud to be republican. I don't know why people disrespect republican

I grew up a moderate Republican with my Uncle a Congressman, I am presently an Independent making difficult choices when I vote. There is no place for me nor most of my family in today's Republican Party. It is in control by Extreme right Conservative Evangelical Christians and even further extreme right minorities. Hint: Most of President tRump's Cabinet and VP Pence give priority of the literal Bible over the science of evolution and the history of the earth.

No I am not proud of the Republican Party of today.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I grew up a moderate Republican with my Uncle a Congressman, I am presently an Independent making difficult choices when I vote. There is no place for me nor most of my family in today's Republican Party. It is in control by Extreme right Conservative Evangelical Christians and even further extreme right minorities. Hint: Most of President tRump's Cabinet and VP Pence give priority of the literal Bible over the science of evolution and the history of the earth.

No I am not proud of the Republican Party of today.
I too had a long history of voting Republican. I don't know what happened to the old Republican party. They use to be pro-science at one time. It was the Democrats that were hard to convince. Now it is the other way around.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Not necessarily. If we look at Obama, he didn't often flat out lie, but he was a master of carefully wording things, half truths, and choosy with references. That tends to be a safe place for politicians, because it becomes harder to say they lied, and instead you have to dig through stuff to find out "well, it's not wrong, but it's not exactly accurate either."

I will give a qualified agreement for most Presidents since George Washington. With some exceptions such as Harry Truman
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Not necessarily. If we look at Obama, he didn't often flat out lie, but he was a master of carefully wording things, half truths, and choosy with references. That tends to be a safe place for politicians, because it becomes harder to say they lied, and instead you have to dig through stuff to find out "well, it's not wrong, but it's not exactly accurate either."

Sure, Trump is anything but a master of careful wording. It's like there is no conscious filter between his brain and his mouth and, or twitter fingers.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Hint: Most of President tRump's Cabinet and VP Pence give priority of the literal Bible over the science of evolution and the history of the earth.
It's hard to believe at one point in time Republicans actually championed the environment with the likes of Theodore Roosevelt. Of course that was a century ago, but they have completely **** all over what should be one of their greatest legacies.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Donald Trump is an entertainer.

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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
When Trump first announced his candidacy he said he would release his tax returns before the election. Every other presidential candidate in my lifetime did.

Was that true, or not?
Tom
I forgot about that broken promise.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I think he's more open about things like his feelings and his opinions and doesn't care whether they are viewed as being popular or not. He also went out of his way to ensure his campaign promises were kept.

I think Donald Trump is one of the more truthful people involved in politics in this day and age. Unlike the past administration with Obummer.
Sure. If, you know, you ignore all the lies and broken campaign promises, then yes, absolutely. Most truthful President ever.
 
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