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Do You Believe that Evolution is True?

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Jayhawker Soule

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Ark said:
Anyone else find it amazing that people once lived several hundred years...
I don't know about the rest of you folks, but I sure do. :) I wonder what could possibly account for it ...
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
What JewScout said... evolution is merely a tool. God and evolution are not opposites nor are they mutually exclusive.
 

HelpMe

·´sociopathic meanderer`·
painted wolf said:
I never said that all changes were benificial, you clamed that humans don't change
no i didn't.you've really proved ... (de)evolution...


does happyness come by chance or creation?
 

Pah

Uber all member
Ark said:
There was of course an evolutionary process on the planet, but far from the type theorized by Darwin and others.

The important matter behind "creationism" is with regard to Salvation. It has to do with the fact that a human is not the epitomy of him/herself...that there is a divine sense and existence which is not possible to fully attain in the adverse geo-physical properties of this planet.

Anyone else find it amazing that people once lived several hundred years...yet many today appear perfectly content with their short existences? That the matter of eternal life appears to many as no more than a hope bandage for the hopeless?

With the terrible detailing of biblical time (6 daya for creation) who's to say and be proved wrong that 100 years in some cases is about 35 years in the real world?

Bob
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
how did I show adaptation as regression? Forgive me if I'm cofused, but adapation to UV is an advance as are the genetic changes that promote resistance to disease.

Where is the 'de-evolution'? (and I agree that Devo is a great band :jam: )

wa:do
 

HelpMe

·´sociopathic meanderer`·
skin tone, evolution?i believe you are negating another post of your own in another thread.

i was referring to your citing the isolated group, not skin tone.
 

Ceridwen018

Well-Known Member
HelpMe, I understood that you meant 'regression'. My point was that 'evolution' is not always a positive experience. Evolution includes regression, which means that 'negative evolution' or 'regressing evolution' are not scientifically recognized ideas.
 

HelpMe

·´sociopathic meanderer`·
feel free to explain why you think regression ever improves the survival of a species.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
I never said that adapting to UV made any one group less human than another so no, I don't think it does negate what I have said earlier. All Humans are still equilly human genetically speaking.

However if we were to completely stop the mixing of the races by say nocking each race down to a few tousand individuals that were completely seperated geographically than given enough time and isolation they may become more distinct. This is of cource impossible and frankly I'm glad for it.
Thus our genepool stays homogenous.

Isolation does not promote 'regression' it promotes change, that change may be for good or for ill but it is change regardless. I see no regression. Please elaborate.

wa:do
 

HelpMe

·´sociopathic meanderer`·
painted wolf said:
Isolation does not promote 'regression' it promotes change, that change may be for good or for ill but it is change regardless. I see no regression.
the isolated humans you cited regressed genetically.though they still prove nothing, being human still...

why would that change be for the ill if you believe in survival of the fittest regarding evolution?
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
They did not regress... they had a 'recessive' trait that became dominate. That is not 'regression'.

Many changes are neither good nor bad. Most are a combination of both really. The changes that allow us to hold our heads up high and talk so well also leave us extremely voulnerable to choking. Humans choke much easier and more often than other animals with horizontal heads and smaller vocal cords. Our adaptaions that provide our ability to walk upright also gives us bad backs and flat feet.

They prove, that humans change and adapt. Something that you previously denied.

Survival of the fittest is only part of evolution, it is not the whole process.

wa:do
 

HelpMe

·´sociopathic meanderer`·
i did not deny that humans adapt(change), i do deny that we evolve.

if we changed from crawlers to walkers, why didn't this supposed evolution also produce stronger backs?try again.

my friends dogs and cats choke more than me, and i only see their pets about 3 hours a week max.

They did not regress... they had a 'recessive' trait that became dominate. That is not 'regression'.
perhaps if they had a progressive trait that became dominant it would of been regression?their gene pool regressed, try again.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
what is a progressive trait? I have never heard the term.

traits are either dominate- brown eyes or recessive- blue eyes. Dominate traits often overshadow resessive ones. Thus more people with brown eyes than blue. However if you have two people with the resesive trait than the trait is more likely to appear.

This is why many horrible diseases are caused by recesive-recesive genetic matching.

wa:do
 

Ceridwen018

Well-Known Member
if we changed from crawlers to walkers, why didn't this supposed evolution also produce stronger backs?try again.
Obviously, 'stronger' backs weren't needed. What was needed, was a differently shaped spinal cord, and it did produce that.
 

HelpMe

·´sociopathic meanderer`·
pah(nice selective choice of definition for adaptation if i don't say so my self)-adaptation-Physiology. The responsive adjustment of a sense organ, such as the eye, to varying conditions, such as light intensity.

a progressive trait is a beneficial one.think "opposable thumbs"

if stronger backs are a problem(as has been claimed), then they were needed.

try again.
 

Ceridwen018

Well-Known Member
perhaps if they had a progressive trait that became dominant it would of been regression?their gene pool regressed, try again.
This sentence makes no sense. Obviously, if they had a 'progressive' trait which became dominant, they would not regress.
 
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