I've read some of the other Surahs, most of them not quite as beautiful.
Got any specific suggestions?
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Do you believe you have the true religion?
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I've read some of the other Surahs, most of them not quite as beautiful.
Got any specific suggestions?
Anti-thesisofreason
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No. My belief system is not The One True Religion.
I believe all roads lead to heaven, so to speak.
No. I am not part of a particular denomination.
I am not "wasting my time", as you say, with my current spiritual path. I follow it because it is the best fit for me at this particular time in my life.
Amigo
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[ quote] This is similar to someone else's recent thread but not quite the same. Anyway, I was wondering. Do you believe you have found the one true religion? I know this is a bees nest of a topic, so feel free to tell me what you think.
All I'd like to add is, if you think that no religion has the right to claim to be the true or right one, or have a monopoly on God, and you are of a particular denomination, then why are you wasting your time with your religion? [/quote]
Last time, all over the world began to dominate the point of view, that all religions conduct to the God. That, say, one religion can apply for true.
And in each religion there are parts of true. The theory beautiful, but correct only partly.
The basic mistake is, that the people incorrectly understand meaning(importance) of a word "religion". They approach to religion, as to something external. There is a TV, automobile, computer, grand piano well and.... Religion... At the same time, the God speaks, that the Empire of the God inside you is. How you consider(count), in an Empire of the God probably there is also King?
The people do not find true, because search for true not in that place. They think, that in themselves good. And if something in them to change and it is necessary, so it only clothes, or harmful habits... The people do not see, that their essence is struck in a root. That they require not a certain external label, which will be hung on them, and in radical change herself. The heart. When heart has no the God, when it is dirty, the man begins to think out to itself religion on the taste. For what reason
So many religions have appeared. All of them, are generations греховного of human heart and consequently do not contain completeness of true. But there is a religion, which was created not by(with) the people. There is a religion, which was based By(with) God and has said, that the gate of a hell can not overcome е ё. This religion does not indulge human passions, does not please to their pride and self-conceit. This religion serves only to one God, which there is a Love.
......
The orthodox Church announces to all world: that if the people not a repentance in the sins, also will not change considerably heart, so that King there could enter. And will think out to itself the false gods, proceeding from passions of the heart, will construct
The house on sand. And anything their gods will not help them per Day of Court. The god has come to rescue a human sort. He has not come of floors a fish, or to see at technical or cultural achievement of the people.
The god has come to open to the people access to itself. That they could become with it(him) a uniform Body - Church. But anything the dirty God enter can not, and if the man does not change the heart, he closes to itself(himself) access to the boon of the God. Also remain outside of His(its) love.
Such man the God to help can not any more. Just because he disappears from the God, escapes from the truth of the God similarly to Hells, which has decided(solved) to disappear from the God under a bush...
Human heart can not calm down outside of the true God. Only обретя It(him), the man can calm down. Therefore, to learn(find out) what religion true, it is necessary to peer in сво ё heart. To try to not dissemble and to not indulge passions.
Then, the God will notice it and will open to you true concerning correct religion.
Also will result you in this Church. You from within learn(find out) where true and where false.
All I'd like to add is, if you think that no religion has the right to claim to be the true or right one, or have a monopoly on God, and you are of a particular denomination, then why are you wasting your time with your religion? [/quote]
Last time, all over the world began to dominate the point of view, that all religions conduct to the God. That, say, one religion can apply for true.
And in each religion there are parts of true. The theory beautiful, but correct only partly.
The basic mistake is, that the people incorrectly understand meaning(importance) of a word "religion". They approach to religion, as to something external. There is a TV, automobile, computer, grand piano well and.... Religion... At the same time, the God speaks, that the Empire of the God inside you is. How you consider(count), in an Empire of the God probably there is also King?
The people do not find true, because search for true not in that place. They think, that in themselves good. And if something in them to change and it is necessary, so it only clothes, or harmful habits... The people do not see, that their essence is struck in a root. That they require not a certain external label, which will be hung on them, and in radical change herself. The heart. When heart has no the God, when it is dirty, the man begins to think out to itself religion on the taste. For what reason
So many religions have appeared. All of them, are generations греховного of human heart and consequently do not contain completeness of true. But there is a religion, which was created not by(with) the people. There is a religion, which was based By(with) God and has said, that the gate of a hell can not overcome е ё. This religion does not indulge human passions, does not please to their pride and self-conceit. This religion serves only to one God, which there is a Love.
......
The orthodox Church announces to all world: that if the people not a repentance in the sins, also will not change considerably heart, so that King there could enter. And will think out to itself the false gods, proceeding from passions of the heart, will construct
The house on sand. And anything their gods will not help them per Day of Court. The god has come to rescue a human sort. He has not come of floors a fish, or to see at technical or cultural achievement of the people.
The god has come to open to the people access to itself. That they could become with it(him) a uniform Body - Church. But anything the dirty God enter can not, and if the man does not change the heart, he closes to itself(himself) access to the boon of the God. Also remain outside of His(its) love.
Such man the God to help can not any more. Just because he disappears from the God, escapes from the truth of the God similarly to Hells, which has decided(solved) to disappear from the God under a bush...
Human heart can not calm down outside of the true God. Only обретя It(him), the man can calm down. Therefore, to learn(find out) what religion true, it is necessary to peer in сво ё heart. To try to not dissemble and to not indulge passions.
Then, the God will notice it and will open to you true concerning correct religion.
Also will result you in this Church. You from within learn(find out) where true and where false.
aymen amir
peace
i was just wondering do you read Arabic or you have a translation ??
there is a suraha called mariam and alRahman check them out ..
I own Abdullah Yusuf Ali's translation. I can't read or speak Arabic at this time, and I don't know if I ever will.
I shall try to remember those Surahs.
aymen amir
peace
ohh, its a whole different experience when you read it in Arabic , see the problem is the Quran loses its beauty with it is translated and the words cant be exactly matched , u only get the meaning you don't get the exact divine speech .. please check this video out when ever you have time www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaS5NsvZ4yM
PEACE
I'm not interested in the exact speech; meaning is the core and purpose, and therefore the most important to me. No matter how beautiful and deep a poem's words may be, if the meaning is empty, then the poem is empty; only if the meaning is deep can the poem be deep.
Besides, because Arabic was not my native language, I can probably never understand all the subtleties and interlinings of the language, therefore the true beauty of the Qur'an would be lost to me.
laughing marmot
beginner mind
One river, many wells.
Hi Atruthseeker
Yes, Vedanta. Why? Because I am able to demonstrate the truth for me personally i.e. I don't need faith or belief. Also because I see that same truth in all religions which I look into in any depth, the paths are different but the goal is the same.
Also I may write about it (the philsophical aspects), but it never feels as if I needed to explain it. It is rather natural.
Do I have anything better or that I have more to offer than anyone else on the forum? Absoutley NOT and that too is why I am satisfied and not searching
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