Do you do Qur'anic commands?

[Union]

salam.
i want to answer some of your questions.
1/ if only quran is sufficient for us,
please explane me only from the quran without taking help from hadith about our daily praying.
how many prostration should we perform?
how many rakat?
in every rakat what should recite?
how should we begin and end our prayers?
and also about haj pilgrimage our obligotary khoms zakat etc?
2/ about your evidence which you mentioned in chapter 18, verse 110,
i am a man like you this mean that i am not an angel without body.
i go in the earth and shops, i eat food and drink water and also i have family etc.
the holy quran also confirms that the prophet are like human beings for there body needs and they are not only spirit or they not angels!
for example in chapter forqan (chapter 25)
this does not against infalibility and immaculateness of prophet mohammad!
because if the prophet were one angel we told that we cant obey him.
because we are not angel and we need living the earth and have our needs for body!

3/ whats your idea if you think that we dont need hadith and quran is sufficient for us?
chapter 16, verse 44 and also its previous verse?

And We did not send before you any but men to whom We sent revelation-- so ask the followers of the Reminder if you do not know--

With clear arguments and scriptures; and We have revealed to you the Reminder that you may make clear to men what has been revealed to them, and that haply they may reflect.
whats your idea about in this regard in chapter 21, verse 7?

And We did not send before you any but men to whom We sent revelation, so ask the followers of the reminder if you do not know.
and about verse 7 of chapter 21?
And We did not send before you any but men to whom We sent revelation, so ask the followers of the reminder if you do not know.

and about hadith thaqalayn which its is authenticity is accepted between all muslim people?
which mentioned that if we want guidance, we should hole fast to thaqalayn which are weighty things and they dont separate from each other till the day of judgement?

Salam Zahra . Before going into the those microscopic issues , can we discuss on the nature of the Qur'an . What do you think about the Qur'an ?

 

[Union]

Salam Zahra . Let us start with this noble verse :

[012:111] In their histories there is certainly a lesson for men of understanding. It is not a narrative which could be forged, but a verification of what is before it and a distinct explanation of all things and a guide and a mercy to a people who believe.

Let me know what you think about the above verse . Thanks .

 

[mojtaba]

Salam Zahra . Let us start with this noble verse :

[012:111] In their histories there is certainly a lesson for men of understanding. It is not a narrative which could be forged, but a verification of what is before it and a distinct explanation of all things and a guide and a mercy to a people who believe.

Let me know what you think about the above verse . Thanks .

Salam

Brother, the adjective phrase which you have made red and underlined, is for the stories of Prophet Joseph and his family. It doesn't refer to Holy Quran. Please see the verse again with more precision.

There is, in their stories, instruction for men endued with understanding. It is not a tale invented, but a confirmation of what is before it, and a detailed exposition of all things, and a guide and a mercy to any such as believe. (111)

 

[Union]

Salam

Brother, the adjective phrase which you have made red and underlined, is for the stories of Prophet Joseph and his family. It doesn't refer to Holy Quran. Please see the verse again with more precision.

There is, in their stories, instruction for men endued with understanding. It is not a tale invented, but a confirmation of what is before it, and a detailed exposition of all things, and a guide and a mercy to any such as believe. (111)

W/Salam/Rahma/Baraqah brother Mojtaba.

Keeping the attention within the Qur’an it is hardly understood that verse 12:111 is only talking about the story of Prophet Joseph . Such great attributes and adjectives are used in 12:111 which quite not fitting merely only with the story of Prophet Joseph .

Nevertheless in the quest of finding the context of the verse , we may look into its consecutive ones :

[012:102] Such is one of the stories of what happened unseen, which We reveal by inspiration unto thee; nor wast thou (present) with them then when they concerted their plans together in the process of weaving their plots.

[012:103] Yet no faith will the greater part of mankind have, however ardently thou dost desire it.

[012:104] And no reward dost thou ask of them for this: it is no less than a message for all creatures.

[012:105] And how many Signs in the heavens and the earth do they pass by? Yet they turn (their faces) away from them!

[012:106] And most of them believe not in God without associating (other as partners) with Him!

[012:107] Do they then feel secure from the coming against them of the covering veil of the wrath of God,- or of the coming against them of the (final) Hour all of a sudden while they perceive not?

[012:108] Say thou: "This is my way: I do invite unto God,- on evidence clear as the seeing with one's eyes,- I and whoever follows me. Glory to God! and never will I join gods with God!"

[012:109] Nor did We send before thee (as apostles) any but men, whom we did inspire,- (men) living in human habitations. Do they not travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those before them? But the home of the hereafter is best, for those who do right. Will ye not then understand?

[012:110] (Respite will be granted) until, when the apostles give up hope (of their people) and (come to) think that they were treated as liars, there reaches them Our help, and those whom We will are delivered into safety. But never will be warded off our punishment from those who are in sin.

[012:111] There is, in their stories, instruction for men endued with understanding. It is not a tale invented, but a confirmation of what went before it,- a detailed exposition of all things, and a guide and a mercy to any such as believe.

Taking verses of 102,104,109 and 111 altogether – these give a clear denotation that Almighty GOD by using Prophet Joseph’s story tried to establish the universality of HIS message ( e.g., Qur’an) in front of human kind . To supplement this understanding you may need to look into the segments of the verses :

[012:102] Such is one of the stories of what happened unseen, which We reveal by inspiration unto thee……

Note. Prophet Joseph’s story only one of those that Almighty GOD revealed to Prophet Muhammad .

[12:104]… it is no less than a message for all creatures.

Note. Proclaiming an universal message for all human kind .

[012:109] Nor did We send before thee (as apostles) any but men, whom we did inspire,- (men) living in human habitations…..

Note. Now Almighty GOD talking about all scriptures that HE, the Exalted revealed to different apostles of different towns , which obviously included Prophet Muhammad .

A twin verse exists in the Qur’an to 12:111 , which proves that indeed 12:111 is talking about the Qur’an .

10:37 وَمَا كَانَ هَـٰذَا الْقُرْآنُ أَن يُفْتَرَىٰ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ وَلَـٰكِن تَصْدِيقَ الَّذِي بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَتَفْصِيلَ الْكِتَابِ لَا رَيْبَ فِيهِ مِن رَّبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ

[010:037] This Quran is not such as can be produced by other than God; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.


Moreover the attributes and Qualities of Qur’an are another issues to ponder from verse 12:111 . I limelight those words in verse 12:111 and showing their respective links in elsewhere in the Qur’an . Please note that there are plenty of links scattered in Qur’an but inserting just few for just a demonstration purpose .

لَقَدْ كَانَ فِي قَصَصِهِمْ عِبْرَةٌ لِّأُولِي الْأَلْبَابِ ۗ مَا كَانَ حَدِيثًا يُفْتَرَىٰ وَلَـٰكِن تَصْدِيقَ الَّذِي بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَتَفْصِيلَ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ وَهُدًى وَرَحْمَةً لِّقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ

حَدِيثًا

[039:022] Is he whose bosom Allah hath expanded for Al-Islam, so that he followeth a light from his Lord, (as he who disbelieveth) ? Then woe unto those whose hearts are hardened against remembrance of Allah. Such are in plain error.
[039:023] Allah has revealed the best 'Hadith', a book (Allahu nazzala ahsana alhadeethi) conformable in its various parts, repeating, whereat do shudder the skins of those who fear their Lord, then their skins and their hearts become pliant to the remembrance of Allah; this is Allah's guidance, He guides with it whom He pleases; and (as for) him whom Allah makes err, there is no guide for him.

[045:006] These are the Ayat of Allah, which We recite to you with truth. Then in which 'Hadith' after Allah and His Ayat will they believe (Tilka ayatu Allahi natlooha AAalayka bialhaqqi fabi-ayyi hadeethin baAAda Allahi waayatihi yu/minoona)?

[056:077] That (this) is indeed a noble Qur'an
[056:078] In a Book kept hidden
[056:079] Which none toucheth save the purified,
[056:080] A revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.
[056:081] Is it this 'Hadith' that ye deny,( Afabihatha alhadeethi antum mudhinoona)

تَصْدِيقَ الَّذِي بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ

[010:037] This Quran is not such as can be produced by other than God; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.

[2:97]Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - it is [none but] he who has brought the Qur'an down upon your heart, [O Muhammad], by permission of Allah , confirming that which was before it and as guidance and good tidings for the believers.

[003:003] It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment be tween right and wrong).

وَتَفْصِيلَ

[010:037] This Quran is not such as can be produced by other than God; on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.

[6:114] [Say], "Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?" And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters.

[41:3] A Book whose verses have been detailed, an Arabic Qur'an for a people who know

[41:44] And if We had made it a non-Arabic Qur'an, they would have said, "Why are its verses not explained in detail [in our language]? Is it a foreign [recitation] and an Arab [messenger]?" Say, "It is, for those who believe, a guidance and cure." And those who do not believe - in their ears is deafness, and it is upon them blindness. Those are being called from a distant place

وَهُدًى وَرَحْمَةً

[006:157] Or lest ye should say: "If the Book had only been sent down to us, we should have followed its guidance better than they." Now then hath come unto you a clear (sign) from your Lord,- and a guide and a mercy: then who could do more wrong than one who rejecteth God's signs, and turneth away therefrom? In good time shall We requite those who turn away from Our signs, with a dreadful penalty, for their turning away.

[007:052] For We had certainly sent unto them a Book, based on knowledge, which We explained in detail,- a guide and a mercy to all who believe.

[016:064] And We sent down the Book to thee for the express purpose, that thou shouldst make clear to them those things in which they differ, and that it should be a guide and a mercy to those who believe.

[027:077] And it certainly is a Guide and a Mercy to those who believe.

[031:003] A Guide and a Mercy to the Doers of Good,-

 

[mojtaba]

Salamun Alaykum dear bro.
May Allah bless you.

Brother, if you consider those verses which I will mention, you can conclude that contrary to what you mentioned, the term 'حديثاً( a story )' in the verse 12:111 is only talking about the story of Prophet Joseph('Ala Nabiyyoona wa 'Alihi wa 'Alayhis Salam) and his family and the adjective phrase 'a detailed exposition of all things' is for that story, not Quran, itself.

Indeed, the term 'حديثاً( a story )' in 12:111 refers to the story of the Prophet Joseph('Ala Nabiyyoona wa 'Alihi wa 'Alayhis Salam), not Quran. Because, there are 3 verses in which the term 'حديث( the story )' is used for the story of the Prophets(a.s.). For example, Allah(swt) says,

وَهَلْ أَتَاكَ حَدِيثُ مُوسَىٰ ﴿٩﴾ إِذْ رَأَىٰ نَارًا فَقَالَ لِأَهْلِهِ....ـ​

'Did the story(حديث) of Moses come to you?, (9) when he sighted a fire, and said to his family, ....'

And also,

هَلْ أَتَاكَ حَدِيثُ ضَيْفِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ الْمُكْرَمِينَ ﴿٢٤﴾ إِذْ دَخَلُوا عَلَيْهِ فَقَالُوا سَلَامًا ۖ قَالَ سَلَامٌ قَوْمٌ مُّنكَرُونَ ﴿٢٥﴾ـ​

Did you receive the story(حديث) of Abraham’s honoured guests? (24) When they entered into his presence, they said, ‘Peace!’ ‘Peace!’ He answered, ‘[You are] an unfamiliar folk.’ (25)

So, the term 'حدیثاً' in the verse 12:111, refers to the story of Prophet Joseph('Ala Nabiyyoona wa 'Alihi wa 'Alayhis Salam) and his family. Again see the verse,

لَقَدْ كَانَ فِي قَصَصِهِمْ عِبْرَةٌ لِّأُولِي الْأَلْبَابِ ۗ مَا كَانَ حَدِيثًا يُفْتَرَىٰ وَلَـٰكِن تَصْدِيقَ الَّذِي بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَتَفْصِيلَ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ وَهُدًى وَرَحْمَةً لِّقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ ﴿١١١﴾ـ​

There is, in their stories, instruction for men endued with understanding. It( i.e., the story of Prophet Joseph and his family ) is not a story(حديثاً) invented, but a confirmation of what is before it, and a detailed exposition of all things, and a guide and a mercy to any such as believe. (111)

As far as I remember, the story of Prophet Joseph is the story that Allah(swt) has said it in many details on Holy Quran.

Good luck brother!

 

[Union]

Salamun Alaykum dear bro.
May Allah bless you.

Brother, if you consider those verses which I will mention, you can conclude that contrary to what you mentioned, the term 'حديثاً( a story )' in the verse 12:111 is only talking about the story of Prophet Joseph('Ala Nabiyyoona wa 'Alihi wa 'Alayhis Salam) and his family and the adjective phrase 'a detailed exposition of all things' is for that story, not Quran, itself.

Indeed, the term 'حديثاً( a story )' in 12:111 refers to the story of the Prophet Joseph('Ala Nabiyyoona wa 'Alihi wa 'Alayhis Salam), not Quran. Because, there are 3 verses in which the term 'حديث( the story )' is used for the story of the Prophets(a.s.). For example, Allah(swt) says,

وَهَلْ أَتَاكَ حَدِيثُ مُوسَىٰ ﴿٩﴾ إِذْ رَأَىٰ نَارًا فَقَالَ لِأَهْلِهِ....ـ​

'Did the story(حديث) of Moses come to you?, (9) when he sighted a fire, and said to his family, ....'

And also,

هَلْ أَتَاكَ حَدِيثُ ضَيْفِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ الْمُكْرَمِينَ ﴿٢٤﴾ إِذْ دَخَلُوا عَلَيْهِ فَقَالُوا سَلَامًا ۖ قَالَ سَلَامٌ قَوْمٌ مُّنكَرُونَ ﴿٢٥﴾ـ​

Did you receive the story(حديث) of Abraham’s honoured guests? (24) When they entered into his presence, they said, ‘Peace!’ ‘Peace!’ He answered, ‘[You are] an unfamiliar folk.’ (25)

So, the term 'حدیثاً' in the verse 12:111, refers to the story of Prophet Joseph('Ala Nabiyyoona wa 'Alihi wa 'Alayhis Salam) and his family. Again see the verse,

لَقَدْ كَانَ فِي قَصَصِهِمْ عِبْرَةٌ لِّأُولِي الْأَلْبَابِ ۗ مَا كَانَ حَدِيثًا يُفْتَرَىٰ وَلَـٰكِن تَصْدِيقَ الَّذِي بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَتَفْصِيلَ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ وَهُدًى وَرَحْمَةً لِّقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ ﴿١١١﴾ـ​

There is, in their stories, instruction for men endued with understanding. It( i.e., the story of Prophet Joseph and his family ) is not a story(حديثاً) invented, but a confirmation of what is before it, and a detailed exposition of all things, and a guide and a mercy to any such as believe. (111)

As far as I remember, the story of Prophet Joseph is the story that Allah(swt) has said it in many details on Holy Quran.

Good luck brother!

'Hadith' is not the only decisive term to lead to the conclusion , rather half a dozen of other attributes - all direct to it to be the Qur'an . And Good Luck to you also .

 

[mojtaba]

'Hadith' is not the only decisive term to lead to the conclusion , rather half a dozen of other attributes - all direct to it to be the Qur'an . And Good Luck to you also .

'حديث' refers to the story of Prophet Joseph and his family, as other verses and the verse itself prove, right?

'Did the story(حديث) of Moses come to you?, (9) when he sighted a fire, and said to his family, ....'
'Did you receive the story(حديث) of Abraham’s honoured guests? (24) When they entered into his presence, they said, ....'
There is, in their stories( the stories of the Prophets ), instruction for men endued with understanding. It( the story of Prophet Joseph mentioned in this Chapter ) is not a story(حديثاً) invented,....'.(111)

 

[Union]

'حديث' refers to the story of Prophet Joseph and his family, as other verses and the verse itself prove, right?

'Did the story(حديث) of Moses come to you?, (9) when he sighted a fire, and said to his family, ....'
'Did you receive the story(حديث) of Abraham’s honoured guests? (24) When they entered into his presence, they said, ....'
There is, in their stories( the stories of the Prophets ), instruction for men endued with understanding. It( the story of Prophet Joseph mentioned in this Chapter ) is not a story(حديثاً) invented,....'.(111)

You are stuck with one term and I concluded with 6 terms , 1:6 , not working for you ...