Do you find it to be racism?

[Nimos]

As some of you might know a new Star wars series were just released and it is featuring a black woman as one of the core characters.

Before the show premiered Disney made this comment:
"We are proud to welcome Moses Ingram to the Star Wars family and excited for Reva’s story to unfold. If anyone intends to make her feel in any way unwelcome, we have only one thing to say: we resist."

I have watched/read about some people commenting on this, but would be interesting in hearing what people here think about it.

So the show have gotten mixed feedback from what I understand, some think its fine and others don't. One of the big criticisms is the Reva character (amongst others), which many find to be a poorly acted / written / boring character. (I share that view as I do for pretty much all the characters in the show.)

Whether you agree or might not even have seen the show is besides the point. Because what a lot of people that are complaining about this is that the show and the characters are poor and that it has nothing to do with whether this actress is of black skin color or not. And people are angry at Disney for trying to turn this into a matter of racism, like the tweet above, before the show even aired. And that making a comment like this is surely going to draw attention to this character and actress and obviously being the internet there will be people that will see an opportunity of making racists remarks and troll, but far the majority of people from what I understand are not even interested in this.

But do you find it to be racists of Disney to point out this single character/actor, even before the showed aired, simply because she is black?

Couldn't one argue that this should be of absolutely no importance whatsoever? I mean would they have pointed her out had it been played by a white actress?

Also keep in mind, that there have been other black characters in Star wars before, like Lando and Finn, which were both liked.

Obviously Disney had to "shrink" Finn on their poster, so they could sell it in China:

Yet, Disney doesn't seem to have a huge issue with this.

To me, I find it to be racist of Disney to point out these things, when there is no need. Clearly if she gets comments etc. because of her skin color afterwards, then that should be
addressed and fought, but what is the point of constantly making a difference and pointing it out? What are your thoughts on this?

 

[VoidCat]

I heard (and I don't know much about this issue) thst the actress got death threats and was called the n word by a few Twitter users so that's why that got posted. I don't know if that's true that's just what I heard

 

[Rival]

I wish identity politics would go away.

 

[Nimos]

I heard (and I don't know much about this issue) thst the actress got death threats and was called the n word by a few Twitter users so that's why that got posted. I don't know if that's true that's just what I heard

No one is denying that racism exists and to be honest even if people loved her character, she would probably get comments as well. These types of people exists, regardless of how well she would have done. But do you think its racists of Disney to point her out due to her skin color or that there is a need for it?

 

[Estro Felino]

Excuse me...I have never watched such movies. Just one question.
Are all these characters supposed to be aliens? Or terrestrials?

 

[Orbit]

How is it racist for Disney to talk about the elephant in the room that is being brought up already by obnoxious fans?

 

[vulcanlogician]

Obviously Disney had to "shrink" Finn on their poster, so they could sell it in China:

The droid and quite a few other things are shrunken/rearranged on the poster. If it was only Finn, maybe then you could say, "yeah, something's up." But it's not at all clear to me that that's what's going on here. It seems like a guess.

Not saying you're wrong or anything. Maybe they did intentionally shrink Finn. But maybe they didn't. (shrug)

 

[VoidCat]

No one is denying that racism exists and to be honest even if people loved her character, she would probably get comments as well. These types of people exists, regardless of how well she would have done. But do you think its racists of Disney to point her out due to her skin color or that there is a need for it?

If folk are being racist towards her then it's good to address it.

 

[sun rise]

I heard (and I don't know much about this issue) thst the actress got death threats and was called the n word by a few Twitter users so that's why that got posted. I don't know if that's true that's just what I heard

There have been quite a few racist attacks with others defending her. One news story https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-anson-mount-defends-moses-ingram-obi-wan-kenobi/

 

[sun rise]

I have watched/read about some people commenting on this, but would be interesting in hearing what people here think about it.

Disney knew there'd be racist attacks and preemtively answered them. It's not racism when you know someone is going to be subject to racist attacks which keeps happening to various actors and to take a stand ahead of time.

 

[sun rise]

I wish identity politics would go away.

As do I but when we have racist trolls they have to be dealt with.

 

[Nimos]

The droid and quite a few other things are shrunken/rearranged on the poster. If it was only Finn, maybe then you could say, "yeah, something's up." But it's not at all clear to me that that's what's going on here. It seems like a guess.

Not saying you're wrong or anything. Maybe they did intentionally shrink Finn. But maybe they didn't. (shrug)

I won't with 100% certainty say that its due to that, but he is a main character far more relevant than the droids. Its like taking this poster and shrink Han solo to the size of Chewbacca:

 

[ChristineM]

Excuse me...I have never watched such movies. Just one question.
Are all these characters supposed to be aliens? Or terrestrials?

From a galaxy far far away so i guess aliens

 

[Nimos]

Excuse me...I have never watched such movies. Just one question.
Are all these characters supposed to be aliens? Or terrestrials?

Yeah there are lots of aliens in it

 

[Estro Felino]

Yeah there are lots of aliens in it

I agree with you.
It was unnecessary from Disney.

 

[nPeace]

As some of you might know a new Star wars series were just released and it is featuring a black woman as one of the core characters.

Before the show premiered Disney made this comment:
"We are proud to welcome Moses Ingram to the Star Wars family and excited for Reva’s story to unfold. If anyone intends to make her feel in any way unwelcome, we have only one thing to say: we resist."

I have watched/read about some people commenting on this, but would be interesting in hearing what people here think about it.

So the show have gotten mixed feedback from what I understand, some think its fine and others don't. One of the big criticisms is the Reva character (amongst others), which many find to be a poorly acted / written / boring character. (I share that view as I do for pretty much all the characters in the show.)

Whether you agree or might not even have seen the show is besides the point. Because what a lot of people that are complaining about this is that the show and the characters are poor and that it has nothing to do with whether this actress is of black skin color or not. And people are angry at Disney for trying to turn this into a matter of racism, like the tweet above, before the show even aired. And that making a comment like this is surely going to draw attention to this character and actress and obviously being the internet there will be people that will see an opportunity of making racists remarks and troll, but far the majority of people from what I understand are not even interested in this.

But do you find it to be racists of Disney to point out this single character/actor, even before the showed aired, simply because she is black?

Couldn't one argue that this should be of absolutely no importance whatsoever? I mean would they have pointed her out had it been played by a white actress?

Also keep in mind, that there have been other black characters in Star wars before, like Lando and Finn, which were both liked.

Obviously Disney had to "shrink" Finn on their poster, so they could sell it in China:

Yet, Disney doesn't seem to have a huge issue with this.

To me, I find it to be racist of Disney to point out these things, when there is no need. Clearly if she gets comments etc. because of her skin color afterwards, then that should be
addressed and fought, but what is the point of constantly making a difference and pointing it out? What are your thoughts on this?

All I see Disney doing, is saying, "Hey, we know your American culture. So before you even start..."

 

[Nimos]

Disney knew there'd be racist attacks and preemtively answered them. It's not racism when you know someone is going to be subject to racist attacks which keeps happening to various actors and to take a stand ahead of time.

People get "assaulted" for all kinds of things, simply being famous is enough. Skin color is just another topic to lash unto, had she been overweight someone would have jumped on that.

I just don't see the benefit of Disney pointing her out due to her skin color.

If they wanted to highlight her for any reason, they could just have said: "We are happy to welcome the talented Moses Ingram to the Star wars universe as the character Reva"

What they did is lash out at millions of fans, where by far the majority are not racists I would assume. I just think its a poor way of fighting racism, by constantly reminding people that there is a difference and we have to keep an eye on it. As long as we are referring to a "black" actor or a "white" actor, rather than just an actor then this will keep being an issue.

Because trust me, her character in the show is poorly written and maybe she ain't the best actor out there, but honestly the other characters in the show are equally bad. She just happens to have one of the main roles so the focus is obviously on her more than the others. But had it been an actor with white skin color, it would have been equally as bad, in my opinion.

Anyway I posted this some time ago and this is emails that Richard Dawkins have gotten over the years and he is clearly white, but its not the most friendly things they write to him either (Quite funny nonetheless):

 

[Twilight Hue]

As some of you might know a new Star wars series were just released and it is featuring a black woman as one of the core characters.

Before the show premiered Disney made this comment:
"We are proud to welcome Moses Ingram to the Star Wars family and excited for Reva’s story to unfold. If anyone intends to make her feel in any way unwelcome, we have only one thing to say: we resist."

I have watched/read about some people commenting on this, but would be interesting in hearing what people here think about it.

So the show have gotten mixed feedback from what I understand, some think its fine and others don't. One of the big criticisms is the Reva character (amongst others), which many find to be a poorly acted / written / boring character. (I share that view as I do for pretty much all the characters in the show.)

Whether you agree or might not even have seen the show is besides the point. Because what a lot of people that are complaining about this is that the show and the characters are poor and that it has nothing to do with whether this actress is of black skin color or not. And people are angry at Disney for trying to turn this into a matter of racism, like the tweet above, before the show even aired. And that making a comment like this is surely going to draw attention to this character and actress and obviously being the internet there will be people that will see an opportunity of making racists remarks and troll, but far the majority of people from what I understand are not even interested in this.

But do you find it to be racists of Disney to point out this single character/actor, even before the showed aired, simply because she is black?

Couldn't one argue that this should be of absolutely no importance whatsoever? I mean would they have pointed her out had it been played by a white actress?

Also keep in mind, that there have been other black characters in Star wars before, like Lando and Finn, which were both liked.

Obviously Disney had to "shrink" Finn on their poster, so they could sell it in China:

Yet, Disney doesn't seem to have a huge issue with this.

To me, I find it to be racist of Disney to point out these things, when there is no need. Clearly if she gets comments etc. because of her skin color afterwards, then that should be
addressed and fought, but what is the point of constantly making a difference and pointing it out? What are your thoughts on this?

Deep Space Nine had a black station commander. It was a great series.

The real question is, "Is it written well, or is it infested with politicized junk"?

 

[The Hammer]

But do you find it to be racists of Disney to point out this single character/actor, even before the showed aired, simply because she is black?

I don't find it to be racist. But I do find it a direct result of racism in the world/country today.

What they are doing is trying to stave off the backlash that is bound to happen, just like what happened with Kelly Tran, and John Boyega.

 

[Aštra’el]

I miss the good old days of Halo 2 pre-game lobbies where people would say the most horrible things you could think of to each other, then proceed to murder their opponents and t-bag their corpses every chance they get… and then afterwards- either part ways into the next match with no feelings hurt, exchange GGs, or add one another and become wonderful friends.

It was immature, obviously, but you quickly learn how overrated your feelings are… and to accept that sometimes people are just going to be jerks because they can, or because it might be fun. Especially online. You might even do it yourself sometimes. You don’t let any of that get in the way of you having a good time.

This actress… never learned how much her feelings don’t matter. For whatever reason she thinks she’s special, and that the entire world needs to know she suffered through some mean tweets. Honestly… who cares? I endured this when I was a child. She is a grown woman.

From what I’ve seen though, most of the criticism is over lame acting and poor writing. Her character just sucks, basically. She can’t accept that, so she cries “racism”. A common tactic- among the left- declaring racism instead of accepting criticism… but does this really come as any surprise?