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Do You Fit the "Mold"?

Draka

Wonder Woman
Every religion has a certain "mold" or stereotype that is most associated with it. Whether it is something promoted by specific churches, or by erroneus word of mouth. We all create these "molds" in our minds from all we are exposed to as well. You get this idea in your head, whether through advertising, propaganda, or personal experience with certain people of a religion, that make you expect most or all of the people in that religion to be around the same way.

Have you ever met anyone that completely broke your "mold" for them? Do most people have a "mold" that they expect you to fit in just because of your religion? Are there any "molds" that you have in your mind about people of differing religions?

for example: If someone says they want you to meet a friend of theirs and "oh by the way" they are (Baptist/Wiccan/Buddhist/Hindu/Catholic) do you already have an idea in your head of what they are going to be like...before having met them?
 

Zephyr

Moved on
Let's see here...metalhead, long hair, conservative...yeah, I think I fit in pretty alright. Then again, for people who don't know about Asatru and would think it a form of Wicca or whatever, they'd be waaaaaay off.
 

Lindsey-Loo

Steel Magnolia
I would agree that most every religion has some kind of mold. I know mine definitely does, but I'm consistently breaking the mold and screwing up the status quo. My parents are starting to worry about me. What if I don't turn out to be the perfect little quiet, meek, obedient, opinionless Conservative fundamentalist Christian homemaker they all expect me to be? Heaven help us! :D
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I never fit the "mold"...

As a child I was asked had I "sharpened my tounge"...Or "had been chewing on a briar patch"..

I was the "black sheep"...

Blessings

Dallas
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
I honestly don't know if I fit a "mold" for Wiccans or not. From the few who have stereotyped Wiccans I have known I would say "no". Though, I really don't know hardly any Wiccans that do. So is it really a "mold" or a gross misrepresentation?

I'm not some hippie chick, I don't go around either in all black or flowey flowery (though I do have peasant tops and skirts as I've always liked them). I'm not some spell casting machine with a whole encyclopedia of spells and a closet of herbs and oils and whatnot.

One "mold" I had while growing up has been broken while here. I had a certain idea of Catholics and what they were like in general, but some here have seemed to completely break that mold for me. It's saddening really.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I don't feel as though I am totally in sync with other Christians. I have a few "fundy" beliefs but I think some of them are ridiculous. I don't spend my time worrying about what other people are doing, my only duty is to teach them Jesus' words if they are willing to hear them. I don't spend any time pointing at people who don't share my faith and tell them they are sinning (I don't even think in my mind that they are sinning)-- I find that would only make people angry and also that I would be judging if I did and Jesus said not to judge. Some Christians think that I am being "politically correct" but that isn't true. I don't tell people that they are going to hell because I don't even believe Hell is a literal place but a separation from God. On top of that, even if Hell was a literal place, we wouldn't even know who was going or why. I tend to follow Jesus' teachings (or try to)that are listed in the Bible rather than getting all my knowledge from Pastors. I always pray before I read the Bible.

I don't think I am better than other Christians, or anyone else for that matter. I just think that in some ways I am different than the mainstream.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I don't feel as though I am totally in sync with other Christians. I have a few "fundy" beliefs but I think some of them are ridiculous. I don't spend my time worrying about what other people are doing, my only duty is to teach them Jesus' words if they are willing to hear them. I don't spend any time pointing at people who don't share my faith and tell them they are sinning (I don't even think in my mind that they are sinning)-- I find that would only make people angry and also that I would be judging if I did and Jesus said not to judge. Some Christians think that I am being "politically correct" but that isn't true. I don't tell people that they are going to hell because I don't even believe Hell is a literal place but a separation from God. On top of that, even if Hell was a literal place, we wouldn't even know who was going or why. I tend to follow Jesus' teachings (or try to)that are listed in the Bible rather than getting all my knowledge from Pastors. I always pray before I read the Bible.

I don't think I am better than other Christians, or anyone else for that matter. I just think that in some ways I am different than the mainstream.

I dont believe hell is a literal place either..Hell is a state of mind.Dead or alive.

I dont fit the "mold" and I dont want to either..Im not a cookie...No one else on this Earth has my finger print..Why would I be in a mold?..Why would I try to?...I would only do that to save my life or that of my children..And I would in fact be faking it.

Blessings

Dallas
 

Colabomb

Member
Christianity, due to its size has many molds. I think i break many of them, but im sure someone somewhere could find one i fit into :p
 

whereismynotecard

Treasure Hunter
I'm not really quite sure what the mold for Nihilists is... But I do know that people are often surprised that I do not believe in God. In fact, some people have told me that I seemed like the kind of person who would go to church...... Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!! I thought it was funny...
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I'm not really quite sure what the mold for Nihilists is... But I do know that people are often surprised that I do not believe in God. In fact, some people have told me that I seemed like the kind of person who would go to church...... Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!! I thought it was funny...

When I took Philosophy in College, we studied a bit about Nihilism. Does this mean you believe in nothing? It confused me a bit that some people would believe in nothing at all. Maybe you can explain it to me (you can use a PM if you want to). :)
 

Hope

Princesinha
As far as "fitting in molds" go, I think it merely depends on whether the mold is a good one or a bad one. When it comes to religion and faith, I would hope that everyone at least breaks the bad molds. In my case, for instance, I hope that I break the mold that lumps Christians into one big American fundamentalist, pro-war, Republican, young-earth creationist handbasket. Because when I read my Bible, I don't read anything that says one has to be American, or "fundamentalist," or pro-war, or Republican, or a YEC, etc., etc.

I prefer to fit the mold that centers around Jesus Christ. Because if one is truly His disciple, then one will fit into a certain mold-----but it's a good mold. A mold that displays the fruit of the Spirit, which are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. To be like Christ is the only mold I want to fit into. Of course, being like Christ means also believing what He taught, and not everything He taught is pleasant to modern ears----such as hell, judgement, His being the only way to the Father, stuff like that. I fit the mold that takes those things seriously (because Jesus took them seriously).

So no, I don't fit the wrong mold of a Christian that has been formed by a distorted Western mindset. But I do fit the mold of a Christian who still might be disliked or persecuted for some of their beliefs. But I still think it's a good mold, because it's the mold Jesus initiated. And that's all that matters to me. ;)
 

Mr. Peanut

Active Member
Hmm...well, sometimes my hair is probably "too long", I like to have fun and act a fool and cut up alot, I don't own a suit, or a little american flag pin...I sometimes smoke cigarettes and drink vodka, and I used to LOVE pot many years ago, but don't smoke it because I'm married with children and could lose my current job very easily, the pay and benefits of which take good care of my family. I'm a Christian, but definetely NOT perfect, just forgiven, still growing, still struggling with bad habits and attitudes, and etc. But being past middle-age, I have grown in grace quite a bit, but still am growing and hopefully producing some good fruit and winning people to the Lord. I do believe the Bible is the inerrant, etc. Word of God, Christ is God, Christ died for our sins and offers salvation as a free gift to all who simply trust he made the great swap, he took our sin and gave us his righteousness. I believe God created the heavens and the earth, in Noah's Flood, that Jesus was born of a Virgin, was crucified, buried and physically rose from the dead and is coming again. I believe believer's will be spared the Seven Year Tribulation, the Rapture will occur first, sparing us from the wrath to come. I look to the Bible for truth and help and teaching and guidance, and try as I walk in the Spirit to be filled with the Spirit and the fruits of the Spirit as much as possible, to love God and others, and to tell people the Good News of the free gift of salvation whenever the opportunity presents itself. I believe we are all unique creations of God and should not try to fit a particular "mold". So, while I have my beliefs, I am a unique person with a unique personality who happens to have trusted Christ for salvation and believes the Bible is God's Word. Done ramblin', L8r!
 

.lava

Veteran Member
Every religion has a certain "mold" or stereotype that is most associated with it. Whether it is something promoted by specific churches, or by erroneus word of mouth. We all create these "molds" in our minds from all we are exposed to as well. You get this idea in your head, whether through advertising, propaganda, or personal experience with certain people of a religion, that make you expect most or all of the people in that religion to be around the same way.

Have you ever met anyone that completely broke your "mold" for them? Do most people have a "mold" that they expect you to fit in just because of your religion? Are there any "molds" that you have in your mind about people of differing religions?

for example: If someone says they want you to meet a friend of theirs and "oh by the way" they are (Baptist/Wiccan/Buddhist/Hindu/Catholic) do you already have an idea in your head of what they are going to be like...before having met them?

labels might give an idea about person's life style. but they would not give any clue if he was humane or not. since world is not -just- a costume party, one's communication skills and behavior mean and value a lot more than 'mold' you're asking about.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Have you ever met anyone that completely broke your "mold" for them?
At the risk of offending someone, I'm going to apologize in advance and say that ChristineES has broken the mold I have of a Baptist. My experience with Baptists has not always been pleasant, since most of those I have known -- either personally or on RF -- have been quite critical of my beliefs and very outspoken in telling me that I am not a real Christian. That is very, very difficult for me to hear. Consequently, I've become cautious whenever a new Baptist comes on board RF and expect it to just be a matter of time before we have a run-in over whether Mormons are Christians. Christine has completely won me over with her kindness, courtesy, respect and tolerance. If she were the only Baptist I'd ever spoken to, I'd think that Baptists were just about the most Christian people on earth.

Do most people have a "mold" that they expect you to fit in just because of your religion?
Oh, I'm pretty sure they do. I'm probably a lot more liberal than most Mormons I know. I question everything I'm taught and have to make decisions based on what I personally feel to be right, and not based on what someone else -- even one of my Church's leaders -- has said. I absolutely hate being thought of as the stereotypical Latter-day Saint, even though I am very strong in my faith. When someone gets to know me and then, at a later date says, "Oh! I didn't realize you were a Mormon!" I'm quite flattered. (That, in and of itself, sets me apart from most members of my Church, who would probably be insulted under those circumstances.) I feel that I am more willing to live and let live than the average Latter-day Saint. By that, I am referring to my feelings about things such as same-sex marriage, etc. I work for an LDS man who boasts, "Never has a drop of alcohol touched my lips." I absolutely detest him, because I know that to him, never having had a drink in his life means that he is the cream of the crop. To me, there are many, many things that are worse than having a cup of coffee or even a glass of wine. I definitely don't fit the mold with respect to that particular point of view.

Are there any "molds" that you have in your mind about people of differing religions?
Absolutely. I'm not proud of it, either, but when you talk to ten or twelve people of the same religion and they all seem to have certain qualities in common, it's hard not to stereotype them. Bearing in mind that I always try to get to know another person for himself or herself without being influenced by his or her religion, here are my observations:

Catholics and Orthodox Christians seem to be better educated in their respective religions than most Protestants. They seem to be better able to defend their beliefs and produce evidence for the doctrines they accept as true. For the most part, they seem to be the most tolerant of all Christians. I seldom have a Catholic tell me I'm not a "real" Christian (although it has happened). I like how the are, for the most part, very committed to their own beliefs. I appreciate the fact that they're sure of themselves, even though I don't agree with them on a lot of things. Mostly, they're a lot like Victor, which is why I like him so much.

Protestants: Most of the more liberal ones are pretty much like Catholics in terms of how they come across to me. Lunamoth, for instance, is a great example of a Protestant Christian. She is a deep thinker and is non-judgmental. The more conservative, fundamentalist ones generally drive me up a wall -- primarily because they tend to like to tell me that I'm going to Hell, and that just never seems to sit right with me. One Pentacostal Christian who has totally broken the mold, in my opinion, is Dawny. She, like ChristineES, is a wonderful example of someone who is a true Christian.

Baha'is are wonderful. I'm always happy to see a new Baha'i here on RF. I know I can count on them to be open-minded and tolerant of my beliefs. I can pretty much say that I've never met a Baha'i I didn't like.

Unitarian Universalists are also great people. They are characteristically respectful of everyone and not at all judgmental. Many of them have beliefs that are just a bit too liberal for me, but I know they won't jump down my throat if I disagree with them on something.

Muslims: I don't have a lot of Muslim friends and haven't interacted with many here on RF. Like most Christians, when I hear that someone is a Muslim, my first thought is one of uncertainty, simply because I haven't had as much experience with them. Most of the Muslims I've met online (and the few I know in person) have been genuinely nice people who, like Catholics, are extremely commited to their beliefs. I truly admire their integrity and feel as if it is a quality that must have been deeply ingrained in them throughout their lives.

Jews: I really don't have a mold for Jews because I haven't interacted with enough of them to have much of a feeling for what to expect.

Eastern Religions (Buddhists, Hindus) -- Almost without exception, very nice people. Open-minded, friendly, non-judgmental.

Pagans and Wiccans are wonderful people -- except for one (and no, Draka, it's NOT you!!!). They are warm and friendly and open-minded and I have grown to think the world of most of the ones I'm met here on RF.

Atheists and agnostics: These seem to be in two completely opposite camps. There are the ones like Sunstone, MidnightBlue, Robtex, Fluffy and Jay -- all of whom I really, really like! They don't believe in God, but so what? It hasn't made them any less decent or kind (and for those of you who haven't figured it out yet, Jay truly IS kind. He's just a different kind of kind :p). Then there are what I call fundamentalist atheists. I won't name any names, but they know who they are. They are here to torment theists. They are insulting and demeaning and I truly wish they'd all just take a flying leap. Whenever I see a new atheist here on RF, I wonder what kind of an atheist he or she is going to be. I haven't figured out a mold for atheists yet, since they do seem to come in a pretty huge variety of types.

See, now I bet you wish you hadn't asked.
 

Captain Civic

version 2.0
The only mold I have is for atheists. It's not true for all of them, but almost every atheist I've known in my life personally has been either anti-Christian or very scornful and judgemental of them. As you could understand by now, I tend to sigh every time an atheist overstates or incorrectly states a Christian's belief or (more to the point) makes a sweeping blanket statement about them that is usually filled with condescension and "my beliefs make me better than you."

That's about all, though.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
The only mold I have is for atheists. It's not true for all of them, but almost every atheist I've known in my life personally has been either anti-Christian or very scornful and judgemental of them. As you could understand by now, I tend to sigh every time an atheist overstates or incorrectly states a Christian's belief or (more to the point) makes a sweeping blanket statement about them that is usually filled with condescension and "my beliefs make me better than you."

That's about all, though.

Do you think it has something to do with the size of the Christian population in the Western world? I'm not saying it's right for atheists to act this way, but you've got to understand that it's mostly because that's exactly the attitude they get from Christians, and I'm willing to bet, the reverse of your statements is a lot more prolific than the original.
 
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