Do you live for your glory or God's glory

[Liu]

When you are living both for the glory of god and the glory of humanity, you are basically saying they are both equally important. In the OP, the god he is talking about you can't live for both of them. Going by his belief, you have to choose one or the other or they will conflict since god doesn't care for idols.

The OP didn't specify which god we are talking about (unless he meant to by capitalizing god, but that's not really unambiguous), we are in the interfaith DIR, and several in this thread, including me, have answered in reference to their own god/s.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The OP didn't specify which god we are talking about (unless he meant to by capitalizing god, but that's not really unambiguous), we are in the interfaith DIR, and several in this thread, including me, have answered in reference to their own god/s.

He didn't need to, actually. The caps, his religious title, and the video sums it up. My point, though, is the Christian god there isn't a "both" answer. We can answer from our opinions, but I don't think the OP was looking for answers of how we define god but how god is defined in his faith. If I answered it by how I define god, I live for both because god is life, and within that life, I live for myself. However, because he is talking about the Christian god, I don't live for the glory of god but for the glory of man.

That's what I mean. It's a little pet peeve that I try to catch myself with. Seeing either/or questions answered with both or none of the above even though that wasn't part of the multiple choice question.

What can I do

 

[Aštra’el]

When you are living both for the glory of god and the glory of humanity, you are basically saying they are both equally important. In the OP, the god he is talking about you can't live for both of them. Going by his belief, you have to choose one or the other or they will conflict since god doesn't care for idols.

Now, if you had your own definition of god, then you can live for both and be cool. I don't think the OP meant it that way, though.

I also have a pet peeve when people say "why can't it be both" or "This doesn't apply to me." It's kind of avoiding the purpose of the OPs on many threads that are seriously looking for a either/or answer.

I am referring to YHWH. I worship YHWH as a supreme God among gods. Christians, Muslims, Jews, and many others also worship YHWH.

The question posed by the creator of this topic was, "Do you live for your glory or God's glory". I am aware that some people feel this is an "either/ or" question. I am telling you and them that it is not an "either/ or", that one may live for their own glory as well as the glory of God(s). And no, I am not saying that I feel both are equally important, but that I feel both are important to me.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I can't speak for others who live for the Glory of God, but I'm certainly not living for the betterment of humanity.

I was going to say "at least you're not hypocritical about it," but I changed my mind. I'd rather people be inconsistent and kind than consistent and cruel.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Another question is does your 'heaven' reflect Glory to God or is is Man Centered like a 5 star hotel or going away on a great vacation. Is God the highest treasure of your heaven?

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Another question is does your 'heaven' reflect Glory to God or is is Man Centered like a 5 star hotel or going away on a great vacation. Is God the highest treasure of your heaven?

In my beliefs, there is no Heaven, no Hell...there may or may not be reincarnation/transmigration/whatever (I believe there is, but I really don't know much about it). Life is not about good and evil. So, no, neither, because the concept doesn't apply.

 

[LuisDantas]

Do you have a God centered faith or a man centered faith?

No. And certainly not for the "glory" of either.

My faith is based on the responsibility of sentience and of interdependent origination.

 

[whirlingmerc]

I go along with the sentiment in Jonathan Edward's first sermon: 'God glorified in man's dependence'

 

[MrMrdevincamus]

Sounds like the same thing to me. Your soul is still marooned.

What is the same thing? Hell as in the OT and Sheol as described in the NT ? Burning is the same as sleep? Me thinks not. I can see a humane God letting someone that rejects his existence even when standing before him* after death go to sleep forever rather than joining Satan and endure eternal burning. There is scripture that says some will reject God even when being judged by their own deeds recorded in the book of life. If someone is that stupid I am sorry but maybe they should take a long nap, especially if its consensual as the scripture tells us it will be. Maybe Satan will fool those poor tards even then.....sad.

 

[VioletVortex]

I live for my own glory. Satan is not above me, he is an ally.

 

[Deidre]

My faith is so different now for me, I actually live my life one with God, now, as opposed to viewing it as if I'm living for 'me' then I must not be living for God. But, when I give Him glory, it is most rewarding.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Perhaps in some views it's all about me is one world view and in another it's all about both equally.

I do note, in a Biblical view the servant songs of Isaiah, that king Cyrus the pagan king who sent Israel back from captivity was said by God to had done so for Jacob's sake
but God forgives Jacob for God's own sake

Doesn't sound it's all about me and it's all about God are 'equal' goals. Showcasing mercy and doing things for mercy's sake is near the apex of God's glory but God's passion is for His glory and that at the apex.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Another question is does your 'heaven' reflect Glory to God or is is Man Centered like a 5 star hotel or going away on a great vacation. Is God the highest treasure of your heaven?

Constantly remembering God is what Heaven means to me. Living forever in a 5 star hotel or going away on a great vacation or living in beautiful gardens of eternal bliss or peace are for me metaphors.

 

[Neon Genesis]

I don't know whether or not there is a god, so all I can do is treat others with love and kindness as I would want to be treated, and hope that any god that exists is also loving and kind and would be compassionate to my lack of understanding.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Do you have a God centered faith or a man centered faith?

It sounds selfish to me.

Wouldn't a universal appreciation provide a type of "glory" that is unrivalled and uncontestable when there is a shared appreciation and beauty of all things? Your glory is the glory of all reflected back.

 

[Desert Snake]

I am referring to YHWH. I worship YHWH as a supreme God among gods. Christians, Muslims, Jews, and many others also worship YHWH.

The question posed by the creator of this topic was, "Do you live for your glory or God's glory". I am aware that some people feel this is an "either/ or" question. I am telling you and them that it is not an "either/ or", that one may live for their own glory as well as the glory of God(s). And no, I am not saying that I feel both are equally important, but that I feel both are important to me.

You might want to double-check that in the islam DIR.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

You might want to double-check that in the islam DIR.

Like Goddess_Ashtara, I serve Yahweh too.

 

[Perditus]

Do you live for your glory or God's glory?

In all honesty, my goal is simple survival. A godhead does not figure into my struggle.

Why would I try to please an entity which, by its very nature, is impossible to emulate?

Gods expect perfection of their creations. Frankly, I don't have that kind of energy or motivation.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

In all honesty, my goal is simple survival. A godhead does not figure into my struggle.

Why would I try to please an entity which, by its very nature, is impossible to emulate?

Gods expect perfection of their creations. Frankly, I don't have that kind of energy or motivation.

My God neither expects me to emulate Herself nor to be perfect.

 

[Perditus]

My God neither expects me to emulate Herself nor to be perfect.

Does your god dictate how you should behave?