Do you live for your glory or God's glory

[Milton Platt]

Do you have a God centered faith or a man centered faith?

I favor what I have evidence for, rather than that which is unseen, never heard from, and untestable and unprovable.

 

[Sundance]

Wow! This is a very thought-provoking question, @whirlingmerc! As for me, I live for the glory of God. Interestingly, the Founder of my Faith, Bahá’u’lláh, His title means “Glory of God” in Arabic. Thank you for the question! Peace and Blessings!

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Does your god dictate how you should behave?

My God guides me to how I should behave.

 

[Perditus]

My God guides me to how I should behave.

That's a euphemistic way of saying your god tells you how to behave.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Interestingly, the Founder of my Faith, Bahá’u’lláh, His title means “Glory of God” in Arabic.

What, he did not choose Persian!

 

[Sundance]

What, he did not choose Persian!

He spoke both, Aup. But seeing as it was His Forerunner, The Báb, who had given Bahá’u’lláh His Title, that was The Báb's doing. Even so.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

That's a euphemistic way of saying your god tells you how to behave.

Sure, you can understand it that way if you like.

 

[Perditus]

Sure, you can understand it that way if you like.

So, as I posted earlier . . .

Gods expect perfection of their creations.

Your god dictates your behavior, holding you to a specific set of standards but, as we know, no one is without sin.

Gods expect perfection. They expect us to follow their rules to the letter, which they know is impossible.

I think the objective is humiliation and hopelessness. Gods are not benevolent.

Since I can't hope to be without sin I do the best I can with what I have. I know I will never be good enough to please a god, so why bother living for one?

Life is hard enough without assigning myself the Herculean task of pleasing a nebulous entity.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Your god dictates your behavior, holding you to a specific set of standards but, as we know, no one is without sin.

Sure, my God has certain standards they expect of me. But the standards are not unreasonable ones. And when I fail to meet a certain standard (i.e. sin), it is for me to learn from my mistake, that I may better serve my God.

Gods expect perfection. They expect us to follow their rules to the letter, which they know is impossible.

My God certainly doesn't expect perfection. Nor do They expect me to follow particular rules to the letter. My God only wants me to serve Them in the Battle against Satan, for that is why I was created.

 

[Perditus]

for that is why I was created.

I'm sorry you feel you are a slave to a nebulous entity.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

I'm sorry you feel you are a slave to a nebulous entity.

I ain't no slave! A servant, yes. But not a slave. Satan seeks enslavement. My God seeks to set us all free from Satan's enslavement.

 

[Perditus]

I ain't no slave! A servant, yes. But not a slave. Satan seeks enslavement. My God seeks to set us all free from Satan's enslavement.

And how will that happen? Do you not recognize your own ball and chain? You are tethered and you don't even recognize it for what it is.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

And how will that happen? Do you not recognize your own ball and chain? You are tethered and you don't even recognize it for what it is.

By serving God and fighting against Satan, our souls are set free from the energetic-material bonds that bind them. Attachment to the 'material' world is the ball and chain, the iron collar around just about everyone's necks.

 

[Perditus]

Attachment to the 'material' world is the ball and chain, the iron collar around just about everyone's necks.

Precisely. Your god has a seat for you at a table with the mortals and nowhere else.

 

[whirlingmerc]

everyone is 'a slave' to something... but God also calls the redeemed to be his sons and daughters and much more
but in the end it's not about us... it's about Him