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Do you see God as bad ?

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Are God bad because you disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what YOU want him to do?
Do you believe God should follow what you want him to do for you, or would you gain what you wish for if you chose to do as God ask of human beings?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Are God bad because you disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what YOU want him to do?
Do you believe God should follow what you want him to do for you, or would you gain what you wish for if you chose to do as God ask of human beings?
Neither. What I can see is that some theists worship a bad or immoral God. That does not make God immoral. But of course if one does worship an immoral God and others point out that their God is immoral they ask people why they are calling God immoral. They never can realize that if a God exists that there are countless possible versions of God. They believe that they have the one and only True God™.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Neither. What I can see is that some theists worship a bad or immoral God. That does not make God immoral. But of course if one does worship an immoral God and others point out that their God is immoral they ask people why they are calling God immoral. They never can realize that if a God exists that there are countless possible versions of God. They believe that they have the one and only True God™.
When you say imoral God, is there a specific God you thinking of?
(No judgment of your answer :) just curious about your thought)
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I don't see god as bad, because I don't believe she exists. So how can she be bad?

BUT I do believe religion can be really bad.
When you say religion can be really bad, do you mean the teaching, or the people who follow the teaching is the once who are bad?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
When you say imoral God, is there a specific God you thinking of?
(No judgment of your answer :) just curious about your thought)
Certain versions of the Christian God and the Muslim God are immoral. Not all. But those arise from human interpretation of the texts of those religions. That does not mean that if one is a Christian or Muslim that one automatically believes in an evil God. One has to decide that based upon a case by case analysis.

And of course one need not even analyze the beliefs of people. If a person does an evil act because they believe that their God told them to it is a pretty safe bet that that person believes in an evil God.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Are God bad because you disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what YOU want him to do?
Do you believe God should follow what you want him to do for you, or would you gain what you wish for if you chose to do as God ask of human beings?
I don't know what god is or what it thinks, so I can't disagree.
But there are some characters in some ancient myths that are stipulated as gods and those can be really bad, like, genocidal bad.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Are God bad because you disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what YOU want him to do?
Do you believe God should follow what you want him to do for you, or would you gain what you wish for if you chose to do as God ask of human beings?

People create their God based off their own moral view. So I believe we are really judging someone's personal moral view not God.

If you attack "God" you are really attacking that person's personal morals. A person who defends God is really just defending their own moral values, not God's.
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I don't see anything wrong with disagreeing with God.
Disagreeing with a God is something many do :) But there are many who think that they can put them self above God and say what God do wrong because it does not fit the person.
I think without judging those who do this, I personally not sure i understand how especially believers can put them self above God. But when it comes to those who do not be live, i can understand why they think like that :)
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Are God bad because you disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what YOU want him to do?
Do you believe God should follow what you want him to do for you, or would you gain what you wish for if you chose to do as God ask of human beings?


Which god? People can believe in whatever they want, just don't force their belief on other peope.

Belief in a god or gods can be very bad to those who don't believe in the same gid(s) or even different aspects of tje same god(s). Such different has been the cause of many millions of violent death's throughout history.

Of course god(s) follow what the believer, liberally to the letter. They are from the believers own mind
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Which god? People can believe in whatever they want, just don't force their belief on other peope.

Belief in a god or gods can be very bad to those who don't believe in the same gid(s) or even different aspects of tje same god(s). Such different has been the cause of many millions of violent death's throughout history.
Primarly Abrahamic Ģod.
I understand what you say, but in the OP i was hoping to gain answer about why some see God as evil. When it comes to what radical people do on earth, that is human fault, not God. Isn't it?
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Are God bad because you disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what YOU want him to do?
Do you believe God should follow what you want him to do for you, or would you gain what you wish for if you chose to do as God ask of human beings?
God is Good. Erroneous Concepts of God held by humans leave a lot to be desired. Much of scripture such as the Old Testament reflects a God created in the image of the authors.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
The teaching/indoctrination, the corrupt leaders who make their obedient flock do things that a rational person wouldn't do.

Well, I don't believe that there are rational humans, the way you apparently believe in rational humans.

Have you ever considered, that you could be a product of the same overall cultural processes, that you claim of religion?

I mean the idea of God is a human cultural product. But so is a rational person. :D
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Disagreeing with a God is something many do :) But there are many who think that they can put them self above God and say what God do wrong because it does not fit the person.
I think without judging those who do this, I personally not sure i understand how especially believers can put them self above God. But when it comes to those who do not be live, i can understand why they think like that :)

I can't set myself over God, because I don't know how to do it. But I can do differently than you. But what that means to God, I leave to God.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Primarly Abrahamic Ģod.
I understand what you say, but in the OP i was hoping to gain answer about why some see God as evil. When it comes to what radical people do on earth, that is human fault, not God. Isn't it?


People use their god belief to justify committing all sorts of atrocities. So no, not the myth but the person.

Qualified by the holy books which teach that genocide, murder, theft, rape, slavery etc are all ok according to god. However, people wrote those scriptures. So again it falls back on people, not the myth
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Which god? People can believe in whatever they want, just don't force their belief on other peope.

Belief in a god or gods can be very bad to those who don't believe in the same gid(s) or even different aspects of tje same god(s). Such different has been the cause of many millions of violent death's throughout history.

Of course god(s) follow what the believer, liberally to the letter. They are from the believers own mind

Yeah, but that is not particular to religion. That is so of all cases of what science can't do. That includes morality, usefulness, beauty and metaphysics in a positive sense.
https://undsci.berkeley.edu/article/0_0_0/whatisscience_12
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
People use their god belief to justify committing all sorts of atrocities. So no, not the myth but the person.

Qualified by the holy books which teach that genocide, murder, theft, rape, slavery etc are all ok according to god. However, people wrote those scriptures. So again it falls back on people, not the myth

Yeah, it is natural, physical, biological, psychological and so on. Religion is a natural human behavior.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
Are God bad because you disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what YOU want him to do?
Do you believe God should follow what you want him to do for you, or would you gain what you wish for if you chose to do as God ask of human beings?

In my experience, God simply is...or what one desires it to be.
 
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