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Do you see God as bad ?

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Are God bad because you disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what YOU want him to do?
Do you believe God should follow what you want him to do for you, or would you gain what you wish for if you chose to do as God ask of human beings?
Looked everywhere, saw no God or Allah? Did you see him?
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
God is wise I believe and sends us His Prophets with the wisest counsel which is best for us. But He does not force us to accept His guidance. If God teaches us to love all and instead we hate and start wars killing one another, who’s fault is that? Who is bad?
You see, every prophet that Allah sends start a different religion and creates strife. First there was Akhenaten, then Zoroaster, then Moses, then Jesus, then Mohammad, then Joseph Smith, then Bahaollah and then Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. And according to Bahais, Krishna, Buddha and the Sabatian also, as far as I know. Does he sends prophets to start conflicts?
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Looked everywhere, saw no God or Allah? Did you see him?
Nope, because God can never be seen except through His Manifestation...

“O Thou Who art the most manifest of the manifest and the most hidden of the hidden!”
Prayers and Meditations by Bahá’u’lláh, p. 248

“He Who is everlastingly hidden from the eyes of men can never be known except through His Manifestation, and His Manifestation can adduce no greater proof of the truth of His Mission than the proof of His own Person.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 49
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
A human owns health can think for them selves. No matter what is preached.

I studied what man as human said God was.

O. Planet.
O. Mass of stone.
O fusion of energy as mass and one body.

Said O was maths science.
Said space falsely was. Mother of God.

Female fake space body did not form planet mass. It assisted holding the mass in a cooling form.

Yet man said it's heavens came from a place of burning.

Yet where man was living in water oxygen no burning existed.

The burning was held in womb vacuum.

So I said okay science a man speaking ideas first said God is holy as God existed.

No argument.

However O a planet is reactive and can harm life whenever a planet reacts.

A human teaching a reactive God is not a nice God. It harms or kills our life.

Basic human family life advice about a planet being naturally powerful itself before science played around with its cold body.

Family first. God is a secondary advice warning. Don't change its body. As immorality of power.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
It's good when God does it.
Well, in that case, to claim that God is good, or the source of good, is a useless tautology.
Nobody's going to mess the Assyrians around, they are bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
That does not justify killing their infants.

Your God reminds me of the Godfather. It makes offer you cannot refute, and kills the kids of the bad guys to protect his next generations from vendetta.

If that is your moral giver, good for you. But for me, no, thanks.

Ciao

- viole
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
But is it just to punish good people?

I trust God not to do that.

You're in good company Trailblazer, like Abraham arguing on behalf of the Sodomites.

Remember how careful He was not to harm the good people?

“Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked? What if there are fifty righteous people in the city?

"Once again he spoke to him, “What if only forty are found there?”

"Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only thirty can be found there?”

"Abraham said, “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, what if only twenty can be found there?”

"Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?”

"He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”
I trust God knows what He's doing in these matters.

It happens.

Both on a global scale, and in a regional example.

It's the full cup principle.

God also showed Abraham all the land he would possess, and described his offspring like the stars of heaven.

But He told Abraham that first his descendants would go to Egypt and become slaves for 400 years.

Why?

Because the Amorites were living in the land, and their sin had not yet reached it's limit..

"In the fourth generation your descendants will come back here, for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its full measure.” - Genesis 15:16​

The Amorites defiled the land, and the land would vomit out it's inhabitants.

I don't even think they were allowed to keep the livestock.

I don't think it's a fun subject.

I wash myself everyday,

Am I even clean?

Does my tongue make me clean?

 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
Well, in that case, to claim that God is good, or the source of good, is a useless tautology.

I don't know if "good" is the applicable word in this example.

Just?

Righteous?

If He is the One responsible for sending the spirit into new life, which I believe He is, then I trust His judgement in these matters.

That does not justify killing their infants.
Your God reminds me of the Godfather. It makes offer you cannot refute, and kills the kids of the bad guys to protect his next generations from vendetta.

If that is your moral giver, good for you. But for me, no, thanks.

So now the pregnant woman's fetus is an infant?

Are you the same Viole who said they are but just a bunch of duplicating cells that are virtually identical to the same bunch coming from a rat

A blastocyst?

A sprout?

What has that to do with being a female? And I am not addressing babies, yet, but just bunch of duplicating cells that are virtually identical to the same bunch coming from a rat.

How can a blastocyst be guilty of anything? or more guilty than other blastocysts?

Only when the blastocyst belongs to the Assyrians at the full limit of their sins.

Blastocyst
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The blastocyst is a structure formed in the early development of mammals. It possesses an inner cell mass (ICM) which subsequently forms the embryo. The outer layer of the blastocyst consists of cells collectively called the trophoblast. This layer surrounds the inner cell mass and a fluid-filled cavity known as the blastocoel. The trophoblast gives rise to the placenta. The name "blastocyst" arises from the Greek βλαστός blastos ("a sprout") and κύστις kystis ("bladder, capsule"). In other animals this is called a blastula.

In humans, blastocyst formation begins about 5 days after fertilization when a fluid-filled cavity opens up in the morula, the early embryonic stage of a ball of 16 cells. The blastocyst has a diameter of about 0.1–0.2 mm and comprises 200–300 cells following rapid cleavage (cell division). About seven days after fertilization,[1] the blastocyst undergoes implantation, embedding into the endometrium of the uterine wall. There it will undergo further developmental processes, including gastrulation. Embedding of the blastocyst into the endometrium requires that it hatches from the zona pellucida, which prevents adherence to the fallopian tube as the pre-embryo makes its way to the uterus.

Blastocyst - Wikipedia
Chow Mein

- Dave
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Well, that's a new perspective. What creation has been in process eternally? How do you know?

Or are you saying that God has only existed a few billions of years?
Sorry; that's private to my religion, and it depends on how you define the terms of creation in science.

If you try to get specific with me, I will try to get specific with you.
 
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