Do you see God as bad ?

[Spirit of Light]

Does this mean the thread is over?

Nope just that she gave up trying to get her view in to my head her atheists indoctrination does not work on me

 

[Trailblazer]

Are God bad because you disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what YOU want him to do?
Do you believe God should follow what you want him to do for you, or would you gain what you wish for if you chose to do as God ask of human beings?

None of the above.
God is not bad bad because I disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what I want him to do.
I do not believe God should follow what I want him to do for me
I would not gain what I wish for if I chose to do as God asks of human beings.

 

[Spirit of Light]

None of the above.
God is not bad bad because I disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what I want him to do.
I do not believe God should follow what I want him to do for me
I would you gain what I wish for if I chose to do as God asks of human beings.

I agree with you If i can follow Allahs plan for me, i will gain rewards that is suited for what God have asked of me

 

[danieldemol]

Disagreeing with a God is something many do But there are many who think that they can put them self above God and say what God do wrong because it does not fit the person.
I think without judging those who do this, I personally not sure i understand how especially believers can put them self above God. But when it comes to those who do not be live, i can understand why they think like that

I don't think its about placing one's self above God, it is just part and parcel of having a healthy functioning brain to evaluate God concepts in order to decide which God one likes. Once one starts evaluating the Gods of others it is the natural next step in order to remain free from hypocrisy to evaluate one's own God, and when one does that it is natural that they may find ways in which they would have done things differently to God. Thus it is part of being human to have disagreements with God and like any good friend, I don't think God is going to disapprove of you because you don't 100% agree. Usually people of differing capacities disagree, why not the same with God who also presumably has a different capacity to us.

 

[danieldemol]

People who only think about themselves and what they have to gain right here, right now, would certainly not agree with my point of view.

Some people who think of others would certainly disagree with you as well. For example I think about the seemingly pointless suffering of other people and animals and out of compassion for them, I ask why God couldn't have done things differently. Presumably owing to your fear of being annihilated by your God (which is selfish) you don't dare to ask the same questions then disagree with God's methods.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Are God bad because you disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what YOU want him to do?
Do you believe God should follow what you want him to do for you, or would you gain what you wish for if you chose to do as God ask of human beings?

To me, god is no more then a character in a book, much like Luke Skywalker or Darth Vader.

And just like Luke or Vader, I can read the story and make a moral judgement about these characters based on the things they do and say in context of that story.

So when we then look at the god of the bible for example, I can easily (VERY easily) make a case to point out how barbarically evil Jawhe is. In a very real sense, he is the celestial over-the-top version of a dictator the likes of Kim Jong Un.

So I'm glad he doesn't exist.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

When you say religion can be really bad, do you mean the teaching, or the people who follow the teaching is the once who are bad?

Both.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I don't think its about placing one's self above God, it is just part and parcel of having a healthy functioning brain to evaluate God concepts in order to decide which God one likes. Once one starts evaluating the Gods of others it is the natural next step in order to remain free from hypocrisy to evaluate one's own God, and when one does that it is natural that they may find ways in which they would have done things differently to God. Thus it is part of being human to have disagreements with God and like any good friend, I don't think God is going to disapprove of you because you don't 100% agree. Usually people of differing capacities disagree, why not the same with God who also presumably has a different capacity to us.

To only answer for how i understand it. Since i can not understand why God do things the way he does if it feels unconftable to me. I accept that God knows and i trust him. No need to ask or critique God

 

[blü 2]

Do you see God as bad ?

As far as I can tell, all supernatural beings are mental constructs, particular sets of concepts and cultured emotional responses to the concepts.

There's very little debate over how most religion is acquired ─ you grow up with it from earliest infancy, perhaps starting with bedtime prayers.

I have friends and dear relatives who are believers, but none of them is dogmatic, and all of them say "Works for me" as their reason for believing. If it works for you, AND if it does so in a way beneficial to the individual and not harmful to society, who's to argue?

Organized religion is on the way out. It's declining wherever in the First World you look, and the changes are generational ─ congregations are getting older and older, in other words. According to the UK edn Guardian they expect less than half the population to declare as Christian in the coming census, continuing a steady decline. It's clear that religion is irrelevant to a growing number of people.

The US, although undergoing the same shifts, remains the most religiously attached First World country. It has a considerable variety of versions of belief. I'd single out the far right religions as the ones capable of doing damage. I continue in my view that fundamentalism should only be lawful if done between consenting adults in private ─ teaching children antiscience has parallels with the old Imperial Chinese practice of foot-binding, only it's not confined to aristocratic women.

 

[Audie]

Does this mean the thread is over?

Odd thought

 

[loverofhumanity]

Are God bad because you disagree with what God does, or because God does not do what YOU want him to do?
Do you believe God should follow what you want him to do for you, or would you gain what you wish for if you chose to do as God ask of human beings?

God is wise I believe and sends us His Prophets with the wisest counsel which is best for us. But He does not force us to accept His guidance. If God teaches us to love all and instead we hate and start wars killing one another, who’s fault is that? Who is bad?

 

[Audie]

God is wise I believe and sends us His Prophets with the wisest counsel which is best for us. But He does not force us to accept His guidance. If God teaches us to love all and instead we hate and start wars killing one another, who’s fault is that? Who is bad?

If someone deliberately drowns all the
baby bunnies, and sends a hit man to
kill a child in every family that would be
like devine?

 

[ecco]

I believe in Allah, But if other want to answer for the God they know of, that is find for the OP.

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[ecco]

I believe God used to be imperfect but progressed to Godhood.

You probably also believe your god has existed for eternity. That's a long time before he created this universe. Did he become perfect in the uncountable eons before he created this universe or sometime thereafter?

How do you know?

 

[Spirit of Light]

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It means just because i believe in Allah, others may not do that, and they have their own answer about the God they believe in.

 

[ecco]

God can not exist because we suffer.

Who says that?

Please provide names with examples.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Who says that?

Please provide names with examples.

It was not from this website i got that. it was a friend of mine here i live who said it.

 

[robocop (actually)]

You probably also believe your god has existed for eternity. That's a long time before he created this universe. Did he become perfect in the uncountable eons before he created this universe or sometime thereafter?

How do you know?

Nope. Basically, the creator and creation start at the same time.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Well, do you think that ordering ripping apart pregnant women with a sword, dashing kids against walls, etc. Is good, or bad?

It's good when God does it.

God can do it.

In the examples you cite.

I think this is talking about the Assyrians, and the Babylonians.

It was an Assyrian practice, the disembowelment of pregnant women.

It was their invention in the first place, a psychological warfare technique.

Nobody's going to mess the Assyrians around, they are bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.

Even Josephus wrote a note on them.

Menahem, the general of his army, . . . made himself king, he went thence, and came to the city Tiphsah; but the citizens that were in it shut their gates, and barred them against the king, and would not admit him;

but in order to be avenged on them, he burnt the country round about it, and took the city by force, upon a siege; and being very much displeased at what the inhabitants of Tiphsah had done, he slew them all, and spared not so much as the infants, without omitting the utmost instances of cruelty and barbarity; for he used such severity upon his own countrymen, as would not be pardonable with regard to strangers who had been conquered by him.

And after this manner it was that this Menahem continued to reign with cruelty and barbarity for ten years.
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I don't really feel comfortable saying it's a good thing though, like Martha Stewart after she bakes a cake.

But it's payback, leave room for the Lord's Wrath.

And then there's no more little Assyrians, to follow in their father's footsteps.

Protection for the oncoming generation.

Think of the Waldensians, at their Piedmont Easter.

Their blood cries out to the Lord from the ground.

"They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been.​

Notice He doesn't say fuggedaboutit.

They were told wait, wait a little longer.

God is going to pay the bad guys back, they will not go unpunished, with the same measure that they dished out.

It's justice.

Payback's a biach.

It wouldn't let me say *****.

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Their blood will be avenged.

It's a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Dreadful sorry Clementine.

 

[Trailblazer]

It's good when God does it.

God can do it.

God is going to pay the bad guys back, they will not go unpunished, with the same measure that they dished out.

It's justice.

It's a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

But is it just to punish good people?