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Do you support a Capitalist DIR?

Do you support a Capitalist DIR?

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 91.3%
  • Yes

    Votes: 2 8.7%

  • Total voters
    23

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Those member of the socialist dir who oppose full blown socialism are still include. We are talking about who would be excluded from a capitalist dir? Barterers? People who believe in a gift economy? I can see that but who else?
This appears to be an endless series of challenges.
Perhaps word association should be the test:
If I say capitalism, & a poster thinks "love", "liberty", "me", or "Hubba hubba", then one belongs.
 

Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
I notice in the socialist DIR that many members oppose full blown socialism.
It faces similar membership issues, & yet it appears to cope with them.
Not an insurmountable problem.

That's because socialism is a political system as well as an economic one.
A socialist can embrace one without taking the other; we all are after the same goal, we just have different ways to get there.

Capitalism doesn't have that. It's an economic system, and is influenced heavily by the political system it operates in. And, based on many of the posts in this thread, I can already the howls and cries when a Socialist advocating the Nordic model starts posting in a thread about "trickle-down" economics.

Like I said, I think that will a little thinking the results you're looking for might be had in a more effective way.
 

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
This appears to be an endless series of challenges.
Perhaps word association should be the test:
If I say capitalism, & a poster thinks "love", "liberty", "me", or "Hubba hubba", then one belongs.

Now you are trolling, "love", "liberty", "me", or "Hubba hubba" are not the criteria to determine what capitalism is.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
We already have the Libertarian DIR where free market capitalism can be discussed without interference.
No, since many socialists also post there. They justify it by claiming to be
"libertarian socialist". It's so overly broad as to be rather meaningless, since by
including them, "libertarian" on RF means nothing more than being socially liberal.

Note: I judge these posters to be socialist because they post in the socialist only
DIR, which is a blue forum. Thus, they are self-identified.
 
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CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
No, since many socialists also post there. They justify it by claiming to be
"libertarian socialist". It's so overly broad as to be rather meaningless, since by
including them, "libertarian" on RF means nothing more than being socially liberal.

Then how about an Objectivist DIR since Capitalist and Libertarian are too broad of terms?
 

Phil25

Active Member
I will vote yes only if you agree that all who participate within a capitalist economy may post in that subforum. What say you?

Capitalism DIR, wouldnt be a place where you can say, Capitalists are evil, or Capitalists ruin the lives of poor, or Socialism is better than Capitalism. If you are Socialist then sorry no, you cant participate. A Capitalist like me cannot participate in Socialist DIR so Socialists shouldnt be able to participate in Capitalism DIR.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Capitalism DIR, wouldnt be a place where you can say, Capitalists are evil, or Capitalists ruin the lives of poor, or Socialism is better than Capitalism. If you are Socialist then sorry no, you cant participate. A Capitalist like me cannot participate in Socialist DIR so Socialists shouldnt be able to participate in Capitalism DIR.
It sounds so simple, clear & fair the way you put it.
But I've a sneaking suspicion that it won't suffice for some.
 

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
Capitalism DIR, wouldnt be a place where you can say, Capitalists are evil, or Capitalists ruin the lives of poor, or Socialism is better than Capitalism. If you are Socialist then sorry no, you cant participate. A Capitalist like me cannot participate in Socialist DIR so Socialists shouldnt be able to participate in Capitalism DIR.

Things is there are just too many forms of capitalism.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Capitalism DIR, wouldnt be a place where you can say, Capitalists are evil, or Capitalists ruin the lives of poor, or Socialism is better than Capitalism. If you are Socialist then sorry no, you cant participate. A Capitalist like me cannot participate in Socialist DIR so Socialists shouldnt be able to participate in Capitalism DIR.
What do you think of CCypher's suggestion to call it "laissez faire capitalism"?
She is onto something...this name would keep out the types who want
government run capitalism (aka "socialism").
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Lots and lots. Do I get a Post-Autistic Capitalism DIR? Because that form of capitalism really does exist.
This doesn't quantify things. If you can't back up your criticism with numbers,
then you're just going by whim. That won't do here on RF.
Plus we need a cut-off point to determine that a DIR has too many definitions.
Once we establish that, we might even find existing DIRs which should be eliminated.
 
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