So basically all of human history we have been awful and will continue to be so for another 395k years? I don’t know if we can survive human arrogance for another 395 centuries
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Do you think a god will forgive you?
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I believe God forgives. However, eternal life is only promised for righteous. I don't know am I righteous enough for that.
These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23
For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Mat. 5:20
stvdv
Veteran Member
Good part is, that "I" (Atma, God) is indestructable. Bodies will "die", worlds will die, but Creation continues
So, no worries for the bigger picture
Humans might think they are powerful, but they are just specs of dust in this huge Universe. No impact whatsoever
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In your opinion what is the big picture leading up to and what is the purpose of all this suffering?
stvdv
Veteran Member
I have never given that much thought
I am more a practicle guy when it comes to these things ... meaning "I have no opinion on this (big picture)"
Simply said: I do my things/plans and let others (incl. God) do theirs
Again, not something I wonder (same reasons)
Sathya Sai Baba said on this: "I (God) gave you a troubled youth, otherwise you would never start on the Spiritual Quest"
Very true that is, and remembering that those "Big questions" never bother me
InChrist
Free4ever
Yes, the Bible which reveals that God created the heavens and the earth.
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What can I have done to act against a god?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
A god that that's petty and vindictive is a bonehead god.
lukethethird
unknown member
According to The Bible the earth is flat so your god created a flat earth, what does that make your god? Not only is god a vindictive bonehead but a numbskull as well.
Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
You could see all the world from a high mountain if the world were flat, but it's not. This isn't going well for you and it won't get better until you consider what it is you are reading. Hint, fiction.
InChrist
Free4ever
The biblical Creator of heaven and earth is never revealed to be petty, nor vindictive.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Centuries? Will we be here another 395 years?
InChrist
Free4ever
That’s a very stupid argument. No where does the Bible indicate the earth is flat, nor that God is vindictive. For one thing, an Almighty Infinite Being who created heaven and earth would have absolutely no need or reason for vindictiveness. Besides, the scriptures plainly state the God is Love and the very source of love.
So imagine you lived back in the time of Christ; do you really think anyone could see all the kingdoms of a “flat earth” world from a mountain top? Obviously, since both Jesus Christ and the devil are spiritual beings there is a supernatural context to Matthew 4:8 and “seeing the kingdoms of the world “.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
John 3:36, “Whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.” Wrath is vindictive.
Numbers 16:31-35
New King James Version
31 Now it came to pass, as he finished speaking all these words, that the ground split apart under them, 32 and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, with their households and all the men with Korah, with all their goods. 33 So they and all those with them went down alive into the pit; the earth closed over them, and they perished from among the assembly. 34 Then all Israel who were around them fled at their cry, for they said, “Lest the earth swallow us up also!”
35 And a fire came out from the Lord and consumed the two hundred and fifty men who were offering incense.
So floods, disasters, plagues, punishments, wrathfulness...none of that is vindictive?
lukethethird
unknown member
They went up a very high mountain to see all the kingdoms of the world, you can see all the world from a high mountain if the world is flat, you can't weasel your way out of that one. Why did a bonehead god flood the earth? Genesis 6-13 So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth. 7-21 Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. That proves god was a vindictive bonehead, and that is putting it kindly, so why should I care about a boneheaded, vindictive god and a dimwitted one at that, a god that created a flat earth? I couldn't make God sound more ridiculous if I tried, and it really says something about humans that believe this stuff for real. You might want to reconsider the side of this stupid argument that you are on.
We Never Know
No Slack
"John 3:36, “Whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.” Wrath is vindictive."
Most all of us see life. Its what, if anything afterlife that whoever does not obey the Son shall not see
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The Bible itself quotes your god as saying "I am angry and jealous."
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
The biblical portrayal of God is most certainly petty, vindictive, and sociopathic.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
I agree with you. Most of us have sinned (gone against the rules of our societies), but there has to be a God to punish or reward us. There is no evidence of existence of any God.
InChrist
Free4ever
Whatever. You are saying that if the world were flat (which it isn’t, nor do the scriptures ever indicate such nonsense) that someone could go to a high mountain in Israel and see all the way over to say Spain in one direction or China in the other.
Again your argument is nonsense. Anyone standing on a mountain realizes that the human eye can see only so far before details are washed out into the horizon.
Any person living in ancient times would have realized that he could not see far enough, under any normal circumstances, to see all of the kingdoms of the world. So clearly the passage and encounter between Christ and the devil is meant to be read in light of its supernatural context.
Your other attempted reference to imply God as vindictive fails, as well. The passage clearly states: “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them”.
That is not vindictiveness, rather judgement. God is the final and ultimate Judge with perfect wisdom and has every right to determine when or how evil should dealt with.
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InChrist
Free4ever
And rightly God should be angry and jealous when humans in their foolishness descend into evil or idiotic idol worship. His anger and/or jealousy is not selfish human emotion, rather it is based in love, truth, and concern for the wellbeing of His creation.
Why is God a jealous God? | GotQuestions.org
Why is God a jealous God? What does it mean that God is jealous? Isn’t jealousy wrong?
www.gotquestions.org