Do You Think You Would Regret.....

[roli]

A fair question.

If God truly exists, and he truly feels suffering for knowing that I did not realize him as my Father at my judgement, and he is saddened by my punishment..........then the truly correct and selfless way to view it would be for me to feel compassion for him and for his position.

Peace,
Mystic

God does say that there wil be no excuse at judgment day
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
See, the logic of observation around us is part of what God uses to confirm his existence and his person

 

[roli]

Don't worry, as I know Buddha sits at the left hand of God, it is more about unconditional love and wisdom, which doesn't necessarily go along with any father concepts (sort of degrades Good to our level).

You don't know enough about the God of the bible as he is holy ,righteous and perfect,sin cannot enter his presence, by his very nature,but in saying that he is slow to anger abounding in mercy,not willing that any perish.
He has made a way for us to be declared righteous and accepted
Psa 103:10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
Psa 130:3If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?

 

[roli]

Before Jesus crucifixion he summed up his message for the disciples saying you can tell the righteous from the unrighteous by their works....to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and generally help those in need. After living a life with the focus devoted mostly on myself, I am now seeing that giving aide to others is necessary and life fulfilling, if in the end I sit in the judgement seat or if I am not.
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Originally Posted by roli

If you did stand before God the moment you leave this life ,"Do You think you would regret the fact that you spent your life pursuing logic,reason,emperical evidence,refuting the christian theological doctrines ,evidence,historical/geographical studies,the bible,Jesus ,God Heaven,Judgement,hell punishment.
Or would you continue to refute ,justify,excuse yourself before God.
Would you blame God for not following after him because of the hypocracy,all the denominations,the conflict between the christian community,the atrocities of historical religion and so on.......
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No I would not regret learning all I can about all religions and will never stop looking for truth by any means. I believe this is what God wants of us rather than to blindly accept what others say is correct.

SaraLee

Excellent verse,God knows the heart and our works ,but it's not so much about what works we do to our fellow man,as our sins are against God first, not our fellow man.
2Cr 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
I mean if you broke the law and ended up standing before the judge who excutes justice,he says guilty ,would you see an logical reason to turn and tell him,your honour but I help my fellow man and feed the poor,clothe the naked.
He will say that is good but justice must be served

 

[Super Universe]

I would not be regretful, and i can't imagine i would beg.

God would know exactly why i didn't believe, and He would know that forcing myself to follow a religion i don't believe in would be pointless. He would understand all my thoughts and reasons for believing what i do and if his decision is punishment, then so be it. I can't imagine falling on my knees and saying i'm sorry would change his mind, either He would forgive me or He wouldn't.

He's already forgiven you.

 

[Mike182]

Hey Roli, this is a very loaded question - you are asking us to assume that what we think and believe is wrong, and then give an acount of why we followed those thoughts and beliefs - if i didn't agree with what i thnk and believe, i would have changed them. so quite simply, if i did find myself before the Christian God, i would be polite, but i would not excuse myself for my beliefs and actions in this life, as i think i have been a genrally moral person.

 

[Super Universe]

...as i think i have been a genrally moral person.

Sounds to me like you have found on your own exactly what Christ tried so hard to teach.

Too many think that being able to quote the bible is what really matters instead of understanding and adopting it's meaning.

 

[zombieharlot]

If you did stand before God the moment you leave this life ,"Do You think you would regret the fact that you spent your life pursuing logic,reason,emperical evidence,refuting the christian theological doctrines ,evidence,historical/geographical studies,the bible,Jesus ,God Heaven,Judgement,hell punishment.
Or would you continue to refute ,justify,excuse yourself before God.
Would you blame God for not following after him because of the hypocracy,all the denominations,the conflict between the christian community,the atrocities of historical religion and so on.......

Or would you be regretful,humble and ashamed that you made the wrong choices.
Would you at that point beg for mercy,or do you think you would submit to his decision of eternal punishment.
What would you do????

I will take my place in hell and do so without regret.

 

[astarath]

IF i stnad before God, I will know love and be part of it.

If i dont stand before God i will be full of hate and far from God, so far and deep in hate that I will hold not a second to stop hating and consider the actions that placed me where I am.

 

[MaddLlama]

If it turns out in the end that I am wrong, then I'm sure that god would already know why I choose not to be a Christian, and I will not regret my choices, spiritual or otherwise that brought me peace and happiness. And, frankly, if god is not satisfied with that, then I am not interested in spending eternity singing his praises.

 

[roli]

Hey Roli, this is a very loaded question - you are asking us to assume that what we think and believe is wrong, and then give an acount of why we followed those thoughts and beliefs - if i didn't agree with what i thnk and believe, i would have changed them. so quite simply, if i did find myself before the Christian God, i would be polite, but i would not excuse myself for my beliefs and actions in this life, as i think i have been a genrally moral person.

I understand this question is loaded and based upon an assumption to those who don't believe trust and rely on God and Jesus as a savior,so I appreciate your response and respect your honesty.
I think from asking this question in public as I do quite often,the common answer I seemed to hear is similar to yours,regarding their moral stance.

Thanks

 

[roli]

Sounds to me like you have found on your own exactly what Christ tried so hard to teach.

Too many think that being able to quote the bible is what really matters instead of understanding and adopting it's meaning.

Jesus taught on such moral themes but never said we could live it out in the flesh but only through the spirit when he indwells the believer.
We can come close to ultimate moral living and impress one another very convincingly
But the moral test is not fully administered until we stand before him
But when the spirit moves into the heart of the believer the morality standard is not relative to others around us,but Christ becomes the standard in which to follow and it is not grievous
The bible testifies of Jesus it never intended to impart eternal life
Jesus says Jhn 5:39 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
His message here in his mind was that it is not by the scriptures that you have eternal life but by faith in him

 

[roli]

I will take my place in hell and do so without regret.

Is there any particular reason as to why you make such a bold statement
Pro 23:7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so [is] he:

 

[YmirGF]

If you did stand before God the moment you leave this life ,"Do You think you would regret the fact that you spent your life pursuing logic,reason,emperical evidence,refuting the christian theological doctrines ,evidence,historical/geographical studies,the bible,Jesus ,God Heaven,Judgement,hell punishment.
Or would you continue to refute ,justify,excuse yourself before God.
Would you blame God for not following after him because of the hypocracy,all the denominations,the conflict between the christian community,the atrocities of historical religion and so on.......

I am far too arrogant to backpeddle at this stage of the game Roli. I would first ask god for a mirror and then I would hold it up and tell him to take a long hard look. Hopefully the mirror would not crack. I would then fish for a cigarette and casually say, "Got a light?"

 

[UnTheist]

Is there any particular reason as to why you make such a bold statement
Pro 23:7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so [is] he:

Hell is pointless

 

[Draka]

Hell is pointless

Hell is just a state of mind and spirit. It is what we make it. It only exists in and of us. You can't "go" there.

 

[UnTheist]

Hell is just a state of mind and spirit. It is what we make it. It only exists in and of us. You can't "go" there.

I agree. Hell can be a state of mind, and we have a choice to overcome it. But you probably knew I was referring to the Christian form of Hell

 

[Papersock]

What would you do????

I would be very, very surprised and maybe mumble a half-hearted "sorry," with a shrug.

But since the Bible says that every knee will bow, does that mean God will make some people bow?

 

[Draka]

I agree. Hell can be a state of mind, and we have a choice to overcome it. But you probably knew I was referring to the Christian form of Hell

The Christian form of Hell does have a point...to scare people into submission. Any religion that has to threaten people with eternal torment to get them to follow it is definitely not for me. I find it a sign of weakness. If people adhere to a religion because they are afraid not to I find that sad. I would much rather feel loved unconditionally then threatened by an abusive parent. And IF I were to come face to face with the Christian God (and that's a mighty big IF) and there really IS a Hell that I would no doubt be going to for my wicked witch ways, then so be it. I would not apologize for, nor regret, living my life with knowledge and love and peace. If that god can't deal with that then so be it. That is not a kind and loving god anyway.

 

[MaddLlama]

I understand this question is loaded and based upon an assumption to those who don't believe trust and rely on God and Jesus as a savior,so I appreciate your response and respect your honesty.
I think from asking this question in public as I do quite often,the common answer I seemed to hear is similar to yours,regarding their moral stance.

Thanks

Are you surprised that people choose to stand by their own personal convictions instead of grovelling before your god?

 

[James the Persian]

I for one would be very surprised to find that most of the people on RF were damned to hell, whatever their belief (particularly as I don't view hell in that way, exactly). What you want us to imagine is having to give an account of our lives before an unbending and vengeful god who bears absolutely no resemblance to the God in whom I believe. If such a god as that existed I would march into hell whistling to get out of his presence. I actually believe in a God Who is Love and wills that all men be saved, not the petty tyrant you seem to wish me to imagine.

James