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Do you want to debate the Bible, djhwoodwerks?

savagewind

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Philippians 3:13-14 (ESV Strong's) 13 Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
Yes, but to be found righteous in the end is not the same as choosing which place you want to be in the end.
Righteousness is not something to covet. To covet righteousness is like wanting a heart. I have a heart. I do not have to want a heart. Haha. Do you?
 

savagewind

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So, you believe that Jesus meant that the Holy Spirit will teach the apostles only, and Jesus Himself would teach everyone else?
God uses The Holy Spirit for God's will be done. When The Holy Spirit succeeds, whose will is done? Jesus obeys The Holy Spirit for God's will be done. When The Holy Spirit succeeds, whose will is done?
 

savagewind

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It means, you said, "some PROOF Hebrews 13:5 MIGHT mean".
Yup, That is you arguing words again. Even though this is fun, fun, fun I have to do something else for a time. Goodbye my funny friend. God bless you.
 
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djhwoodwerks

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God uses The Holy Spirit for God's will be done. When The Holy Spirit succeeds, whose will is done? Jesus obeys The Holy Spirit for God's will be done. When The Holy Spirit succeeds, whose will is done?

That didn't at all answer the question,

Are you saying that Jesus meant that the Holy Spirit was to teach the apostles only, and Jesus Himself would teach everyone else?
 

meghanwaterlillies

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its about marriage and **** that is high jacked to take things a away that doesn't make people angels that's because we all have the knowledge of good and evil. Yes it can hurt people but it doesn't mean that makes you the garden snake. Even if they mock it back. They destroy actual love. By saying we are all one well know **** I could have told you we are all human. Just love we are all Gods children know **** again I could have told you that so what actually is behind the bible that it fights against and tries even though worded poorly for a reason of course; Then they de evolution-ize to make something else matter which is a lie. Through off once again male in female in the garden. Then in the new testament chapters don't line up and the recreate a it again against the same couples. But this time its supposed to be a love dove-y side which is also a lie trick to make focused on becoming or transcending angels which is wrong again and again to **** up male and female arrangements. Supposedly this is the creation side-revolution side. This is the high jacking of the tree of live. Even if you got down to the wire they try to actually call in another to create the lie but these guys are sent to create evil and do evil to add in the problem. Then the other guys come in say oh well don't worry its death we are trying for its lose of humanity but you will become an angel. There is even stuff Jesus didn't even say there is stuff not even written on what he said or at least its stated that the "books" cold contain. You might even get to be the dudes that take the righteous and lie. They look good too. But they house everything so they can play these silly games. Anyway; that's why John wrote the book of revelation comment whatever you like about it but it was said like this basically it was written to stop them and warn them that if you think you angels/demons with knowledge of good and evil "creators, (the-goodies)" and evolution-izards builders marketing mass and manipulators mess with the very things that even holds it together stop because it that it wont be angel resurrection; profiting people it probably was maybe already changed since there is signs of redundancy like the smashed other versions of the text together. Them throwing out a new religious text usually is the same crap they just to don't see it yet. They want you to swallow it.
 

meghanwaterlillies

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its about marriage and **** that is high jacked to take things a away that doesn't make people angels that's because we all have the knowledge of good and evil. Yes it can hurt people but it doesn't mean that makes you the garden snake. Even if they mock it back. They destroy actual love. By saying we are all one well know **** I could have told you we are all human. Just love we are all Gods children know **** again I could have told you that so what actually is behind the bible that it fights against and tries even though worded poorly for a reason of course; Then they de evolution-ize to make something else matter which is a lie. Throw off once again male in female in the garden. Then in the new testament chapters don't line up and the recreate a it again against the same couples. But this time its supposed to be a love dove-y side which is also a lie trick to make focused on becoming or transcending angels which is wrong again and again to **** up male and female arrangements. Supposedly this is the creation side-revolution side. This is the high jacking of the tree of live. Even if you got down to the wire they try to actually call in another to create the lie but these guys are sent to create evil and do evil to add in the problem. Then the other guys come in say oh well don't worry its death we are trying for its lose of humanity but you will become an angel. There is even stuff Jesus didn't even say there is stuff not even written on what he said or at least its stated that the "books" could contain. You might even get to be the dudes that take the righteous and lie. But they house everything so they can play these silly games. Anyway; that's why John wrote the book of revelation comment whatever you like about it but it was said like this basically it was written to stop them and warn them that if you think you angels/demons with knowledge of good and evil "creators, (the-goodies)" and evolution-izards builders marketing mass and manipulators mess with the very things that even holds it together stop because it that it wont be angel resurrection (which I hope that's not what they would be only after anyway); profiting people it probably was maybe already changed since there is signs of redundancy like the smashed other versions of the text together. Them throwing out a new religious text usually is the same crap they just to don't see it yet. They want you to swallow it.
 
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savagewind

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That didn't at all answer the question,

Are you saying that Jesus meant that the Holy Spirit was to teach the apostles only, and Jesus Himself would teach everyone else?
Jesus taught the apostles via The Holy Spirit and Jesus teaches anyone who has an ear to hear what the Spirit says to the congregation by The Holy Spirit also. IMO. Are you trying to get me to argue for the trinity? I don't do that.
 

ukok102nak

Active Member
~;> as they say
so as it is written
:read:
1 Corinthians 2:9
But as it is written, "Things which an eye did not see, and an ear did not hear, which did not enter into the heart of man, these God has prepared for those who love him."


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godbless
unto all always


its about marriage and **** that is high jacked to take things a away that doesn't make people angels that's because we all have the knowledge of good and evil. Yes it can hurt people but it doesn't mean that makes you the garden snake. Even if they mock it back. They destroy actual love. By saying we are all one well know **** I could have told you we are all human. Just love we are all Gods children know **** again I could have told you that so what actually is behind the bible that it fights against and tries even though worded poorly for a reason of course; Then they de evolution-ize to make something else matter which is a lie. Throw off once again male in female in the garden. Then in the new testament chapters don't line up and the recreate a it again against the same couples. But this time its supposed to be a love dove-y side which is also a lie trick to make focused on becoming or transcending angels which is wrong again and again to **** up male and female arrangements. Supposedly this is the creation side-revolution side. This is the high jacking of the tree of live. Even if you got down to the wire they try to actually call in another to create the lie but these guys are sent to create evil and do evil to add in the problem. Then the other guys come in say oh well don't worry its death we are trying for its lose of humanity but you will become an angel. There is even stuff Jesus didn't even say there is stuff not even written on what he said or at least its stated that the "books" could contain. You might even get to be the dudes that take the righteous and lie. But they house everything so they can play these silly games. Anyway; that's why John wrote the book of revelation comment whatever you like about it but it was said like this basically it was written to stop them and warn them that if you think you angels/demons with knowledge of good and evil "creators, (the-goodies)" and evolution-izards builders marketing mass and manipulators mess with the very things that even holds it together stop because it that it wont be angel resurrection (which I hope that's not what they would be only after anyway); profiting people it probably was maybe already changed since there is signs of redundancy like the smashed other versions of the text together. Them throwing out a new religious text usually is the same crap they just to don't see it yet. They want you to swallow it.
 

meghanwaterlillies

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:praying: so if an atheist love to give mercy and kindness what makes them different from any human being in this planet they called earth

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godbless
unto all always
That's not the point; it hurt the actual people, to some extent.

I think:
Well they did get pretty freak out when people made it into a play joker steals crown; to entertain religious and noble people with jokes about love herods were even acted the same way for fun. Don't like fake. Like a jester entertaining a king or queen, Nero once saw the play. The prophet Malachi talks about this moving hording of people and trading prostitution of wives, money making for types, slaving, trading flesh's unnaturally. Big old warning. And because Israel was under such rule and religious leaders had combined themselves but I would say; tried to protect it from happening as you can see in malachi but they including their nobles and kings to these battles of nobility they had consistent problems with their own pride and keeping the temple plain as it was. Next Jesus shows up or all would lose dignity because by this time they were all ready throwing away their wife, or blaming and next probably selling children and getting greedy sometimes equally harsh on people that maintain their now business. When it became a play some of the witnesses tried to turn people back to Judaism. Dreaths of evidence. Because it became so easily mocked by narcissistic people, kind of a funny game of "romance". Nobles and regular people in the roman empire where having problems with this kind of theft of life and dignity even among the massive temples like isis Egyptian and a couple others temples they would do that sort of thing and money making even just down right vile. Every human heart can hurt. And so It became a play with people like a stage that thought themselves noble whether of jewish or distinct positions in the time of the rome. They then invented the babylonian Talmud. Either because of the mockery or for the mockery. They created black and white, salt and pepper for the play. Two dogs and a cat. Angel this angel that demon this demon that. Talmud animal ideas...They called it "art"....So many of "watchers" became atheists. While some just say I don't know what to really believe. And that's why a lot of people even tops of temples or leaders became atheists. But nothing beats a true story.
 

ukok102nak

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:praying: they were true story at all
coz if not your telling a not true story
for we believed that you said all that things meaning it was true as you have written it
if we may say so


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godbless
unto all always

That's not the point; it hurt the actual people, to some extent.

I think:
Well they did get pretty freak out when people made it into a play joker steals crown; to entertain religious and noble people with jokes about love herods were even acted the same way for fun. Don't like fake. Like a jester entertaining a king or queen, Nero once saw the play. The prophet Malachi talks about this moving hording of people and trading prostitution of wives, money making for types, slaving, trading flesh's unnaturally. Big old warning. And because Israel was under such rule and religious leaders had combined themselves but I would say; tried to protect it from happening as you can see in malachi but they including their nobles and kings to these battles of nobility they had consistent problems with their own pride and keeping the temple plain as it was. Next Jesus shows up or all would lose dignity because by this time they were all ready throwing away their wife, or blaming and next probably selling children and getting greedy sometimes equally harsh on people that maintain their now business. When it became a play some of the witnesses tried to turn people back to Judaism. Dreaths of evidence. Because it became so easily mocked by narcissistic people, kind of a funny game of "romance". Nobles and regular people in the roman empire where having problems with this kind of theft of life and dignity even among the massive temples like isis Egyptian and a couple others temples they would do that sort of thing and money making even just down right vile. Every human heart can hurt. And so It became a play with people like a stage that thought themselves noble whether of jewish or distinct positions in the time of the rome. They then invented the babylonian Talmud. Either because of the mockery or for the mockery. They created black and white, salt and pepper for the play. Two dogs and a cat. Angel this angel that demon this demon that. Talmud animal ideas...They called it "art"....So many of "watchers" became atheists. While some just say I don't know what to really believe. And that's why a lot of people even tops of temples or leaders became atheists. But nothing beats a true story.
 

ukok102nak

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:praying: indeed
it hurt the actual people, to some extent
especially those
who profess that they know God, but by their works they deny him, being abominable, disobedient, and unfit for any good work.


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godbless
unto all always
 

meghanwaterlillies

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well the to every person and atheist watch out for the theory of relativity because some of the things can be just relative not always regarded in truth, and I said I think. even for what sometimes atheist think yes.
 

meghanwaterlillies

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see NT pauls word is a catch 22 again as stated like prior of a catcher I don't know if paul was in a race to play magic tricks or or to convenience the others. However the book was about marriage in most places and what created much turmoil because Paul catches again with Hebrews:: and no one shall teach his neighbour nor anyone his brother, saying, Know the Lord, because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. Romans: But from the beginning of creation, God has shown what these are like by all he has made. Does this not say it as well. WELL then I'm to look at the bigger picture if he's catching up.
 

ukok102nak

Active Member
well the to every person and atheist watch out for the theory of relativity because some of the things can be just relative not always regarded in truth, and I said I think. even for what sometimes atheist think yes.

:praying: as they say
Consider the absolute affections of any being as it is
in itself, before you consider it relatively.


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godbless
unto all always
 

ukok102nak

Active Member
:praying: the truth is not all those words were came from paul coz that so called prophesy has something to say unto that writtings
and noone shall teach his neighbour noranyone his brother, saying, Know the Lord, because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest.
and
next this one
But from the beginning of creation, God has shown what these are like by all he has made.
where in the world that we could relate
that everything could be proven by faith alone
coz about this writtings
tell something that all the things came from faith
but not by faith alone

so how come faith relates to a prophesy
or should we say
identify with
and
which come first
faith or prophesy

. ... just askin
if we may say so ... .

by the way
i :praying: yeah its me and not him ~;>
was a former atheist so i respect your doubt if you dont have a certain faith unto my words
if i may say so


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godbless
unto all always

see NT pauls word is a catch 22 again as stated like prior of a catcher I don't know if paul was in a race to play magic tricks or or to convenience the others. However the book was about marriage in most places and what created much turmoil because Paul catches again with Hebrews:: and no one shall teach his neighbour nor anyone his brother, saying, Know the Lord, because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. Romans: But from the beginning of creation, God has shown what these are like by all he has made. Does this not say it as well. WELL then I'm to look at the bigger picture if he's catching up.
 
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