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Does Christmas have anything to do with Christ?

Does Xmas (Christmas) have anything to do with Christ?

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MikeSavage

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savagewind said:
All marriages regure some work as in building a home, raising the children and perhaps growing food. There is no "work" associated with friendships.
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No one said there was. The scriptures say that a true Christian and a non-believer are much better off if they marry someone who believes as they do. They also say that a true Christian and a non-believer will have problems if they are close friends. All of God's admonishments are made out of love, and to prevent problems, heartache, and more serious issues from arising. One who is a true Christian being married to a non-believer causes strife, arguments, and means that there are few things in common between the two. Two true Christians have a much better relationship together than two who believe different things. The concept of having to "work" to make a marriage succeed is not within the principles of God. Anything else is using the reasoning of the "world" rather than the reasoning of God. Look at the Mosaic law covenant. It was about 600 laws that were meant to keep one healthy, happy, free of strife, and to help all get along. They also were meant to keep property in the family. They were meant to keep animals from being abused, and slaves from being permanent slaves. There were even laws that eliminated debt after 7 years. All put in place by God to make His chosen people healthy and happy. It's a shame they are no longer His chosen nation. They blew that pretty well. It is now "spiritual" Israel (all those who believe in God and Jesus' sacrifice) that is God's chosen nation. It includes people from all nations and tongues. Physical Israel was only those who were born into the nation of Israel. They still, however, refuse to accept that God "abandoned their house" for causing Jesus' death.
 
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That was all over the place. I believe it is not wise to make scripture mean something it doesn't. I believe the Bible warns us about who to trust as friends but using scriptures which aren't about it to prove it is sinning I think.
 
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I have observed every post a Jehovah's Witness makes comes from the knowledge God cares about right and wrong. Is this not true?
 
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Mark 2:17
On hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
Genesis 8:21
The LORD smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: "Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.
Ecclesiastes 9:3
This is the evil in everything that happens under the sun: The same destiny overtakes all. The hearts of people, moreover, are full of evil and there is madness in their hearts while they live, and afterward they join the dead.
Psalm 51:5
Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
Romans 3:4
Not at all! Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge."

I have presented my side. I ask for only one proof any of mankind has ever had an "honest heart". Please.
 
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savagewind

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First you say Christmas is not Christian and God has warned us in the bible that it is wrong but then I say show me where it says something and YOU say I don't DO that.
 
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MikeSavage said:
I suggest that you study the topic in the scriptures. Many things are spelled out clearly, many others are based on God's principles. It is necessary to know what those principles are. Only careful study can show one that. It takes about a year for my students to get their own traction and to make changes in their lives that conform to God's principles. Some latch on quickly, but most don't. Thereafter they begin researching things they are curious about. It takes a lifetime. I've been at it over 40 years and learn new things every day. I see new proof every day that I never imagined existed. It's not something that I can give one a scripture of and bang, they have their proof. It rarely works that way.
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When you HAVE a scripture you share it. When you DON'T have one you say you DON'T share it. So there isn't one.I know there isn't one. I think I'd like to see you admit there isn't one.
 
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MikeSavage said:
I am wondering why you are asking so many very strange questions. I am STILL wondering why you have such an obsession with the governing body. Did you read what I posted earlier about them?
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I did. You say you know about their claim they ARE the faithful and discreet slave of Mathew (I'm not looking up the number because you don't either).
 
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MikeSavage

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savagewind said:
I did. You say you know about their claim they ARE the faithful and discreet slave of Mathew (I'm not looking up the number because you don't either).
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Not a "claim" as you call it. It is proven. Let's face facts. ***staff edit*** You are relying on your own understanding, as most do, and therefore have difficulty in accepting most things that are scriptural. You're not alone there either. If you spend a lot of tiime actually studying the scriptures, and discern their meaning, you will learn a lot. If not, then you won't. Asking questions designed to be, as you say others have called it, disparaging, won't teach you anything. Doing so proves you don't actually have a desire to learn. If you do have such a desire, you can ask any of God's witnesses to assist you, and they would be glad to help. No matter where in the world you are, they are there. Real, accurate, honest information is available to all. Religion is the opposite of that. You won't find such information with any sect, denomination, or pagan religion.
 
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"Why do you ask me about what is good?" Jesus replied. "There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments." Matthew 19:17
 
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