Does evolution have a purpose?

[Aupmanyav]

It remains that we are fundamentally different from other physical creatures.
I don't see any other creatures reading scriptures

Other creatures do not waste their time, on scriptures and on forums.
We do have our uniqueness, just like all other creatures also have. But then, we have commonalities also.
8 Human-Like Behaviors of Primates

 

[YoursTrue]

The earth of course is a near sphere, but if you talk of universe, it could be of any shape, science is not sure about that. There is ample proof of evolution of species and sub-species, but if you are bent on dismissing that, nothing much can be done about it.

Shape of universe (Shape of the universe - Wikipedia):
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...End_of_universe.jpg/275px-End_of_universe.jpg

I'm not speaking of the universe. I'm speaking of the general shape of the earth. And moon. And Jupiter, etc. I can only see a round shape, not a ball when I look. However I am convinced that these are like balls. Not discs. On the "other side" of the coin/disc, there is nothing to convince me, or suggest that all life forms evolved from some chance meeting of minerals, molecules, atoms, or whatever the supposition is at the beginning of life on earth. Now I find it fascinating that the 'in-betweens' of gorillas, bonobos, humans, chimpanzees, etc. are lost perhaps? Because they cannot interbreed now, or if ever. Conjectures might be made, and if someone wants to say it's similar to the earth being like a ball and not a disc, as it goes, that's up to them.

 

[ratiocinator]

I've read "peer reviewed" articles on the subjects. Many things are conjectured in these articles with no reference to "scientific evidence."

Since you've repeatedly refused to address even the most basic of popular articles about the genetic evidence for evolution, shown no understanding of scientific evidence, or even been able to understand that evidence is what science does, rather than proof, I'm sorry, but I'm seriously struggling to believe that this is true, at least, except in the very literal sense that you looked at all the words. The idea that you've read any with any understanding at all seems to be totally contradicted by what you post.

 

[YoursTrue]

Other creatures do not waste their time, on scriptures and on forums.
We do have our uniqueness, just like all other creatures also have. But then, we have commonalities also.
8 Human-Like Behaviors of Primates

Some do believe humans have progressed in the species because of advances in science and technology. Maybe they attribute that to evolution. Has human nature changed, though? Humans generally don't slither through the grass on their bottom side, but some can be described as snakes. Or bulls. Or dogs. Or sheep. Or wolves.

 

[shunyadragon]

Well, I couldn't make a lot of sense of your ref. either.
Can't you give a link to a simplified version of Popper's view?

All my references is in English

 

[shunyadragon]

I've read "peer reviewed" articles on the subjects. Many things are conjectured in these articles with no reference to "scientific evidence." Next time I come across this type of claim I'll let you know. Further, while fossils are found (that's 'evidence' of something that was alive as far as I'm concerned), the ideas that the branches in the tree of evolutionary theory are true simply doesn't make sense to me - anymore. As I told you, I used to believe these things without question, as if the books were telling me the truth and nothing but. I no longer do. And, as I keep saying, while fish are fish (and not gorillas), there is no evidence that fish and gorillas evolved from a chance meeting of molecules (?) 'in the beginning.'

'As far as I am concerned . . ' is not a reliable source from some one who has no knowledge in science, cannot understand scientific references, and an ancient religious agenda.

 

[muhammad_isa]

All my references is in English

Not helpful..
It seems that you can't be bothered to show us what Poppers view actually is. I have done a simple search, and nothing has turned up..
..not in a straightforward sense, at least.

 

[Aupmanyav]

.. there is nothing to convince me, or suggest that all life forms evolved from some chance meeting of minerals, molecules, atoms, or whatever the supposition is at the beginning of life on earth. Now I find it fascinating that the 'in-betweens' of gorillas, bonobos, humans, chimpanzees, etc. are lost perhaps? Because they cannot interbreed now, or if ever.

That is willful denial. Nothing is lost. The record of fossils in human evolution is very clear. Yes, we cannot interbreed now with other primates and no other Homo sapien species have survived. But we did interbreed with Neanderthals and Denisovans.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Has human nature changed, though? Humans generally don't slither through the grass on their bottom side, ..

Primate nature has not changed much. See the link in my post #861. In becoming human we have lost the agility and strength that the other primates have. We cannot jump from one branch of a tree to another. Our hold is much weaker. Our running speed also has diminished.

 

[shunyadragon]

Some do believe humans have progressed in the species because of advances in science and technology. Maybe they attribute that to evolution. Has human nature changed, though? Humans generally don't slither through the grass on their bottom side, but some can be described as snakes. Or bulls. Or dogs. Or sheep. Or wolves.

Utter nonsense.

 

[gnostic]

Some do believe humans have progressed in the species because of advances in science and technology. Maybe they attribute that to evolution. Has human nature changed, though?

Evolution is about changes in biological traits of the population and about passing those traits to descendants over time, but time as in generations, not the number of years.

So this “passing those traits” referred to genetics, but over extended amount of times, where the changes in their become notable.

And the changes referred to populations, not individuals.

As I said, it required the mechanism of genetic, where the genes are heritable, the genetic information are the result of sequencing of nucleic acids, like DNA or RNA.

Sciences and technology are not heritable traits. You can not biologically pass the knowledge & skills of science or technology in the DNA or RNA.

Both sciences and technology are learned skills and learned knowledge. So the species - in this case, humans - needs to be taught these skills & knowledge, and humans need to learn them, hence education are required.

These knowledge & skills cannot be passed from generation to generation, via DNA.

This part of your post, demonstrate the lacking in your education, as to what Evolutionary Biology is.

Has human nature changed, though? Humans generally don't slither through the grass on their bottom side, but some can be described as snakes. Or bulls. Or dogs. Or sheep. Or wolves.

And here, you are now being absurd.

Why do you need to use analogy to confuse yourself more?

You already don’t understand basic biology, now you are compounding your errors with making irrelevant comments.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Now I find it fascinating that the 'in-betweens' of gorillas, bonobos, humans, chimpanzees, etc. are lost perhaps? Because they cannot interbreed now, or if ever.

We ourselves are in-between and so are all other primates, gorillas, bobobos, chimpanzees and orangutans. Evolution is an ever-ongoing process. Do you think evolution will stop with Homo sapiens sapiens? Some survive and flourish, others become extinct.

There are more than 260 different types of monkeys. They are separated into two major categories: New World and Old World. Google Search, 28-May-2014.
We too are, sort of, old world monkeys.

Homo rhodensis, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo naledi, Homo ergaster, Homo antecessor, Homo neanderthalensis, Homo denisova, Homo floresiensis, did not survive. All were slightly different from us. See the list of lineages here: Homo - Wikipedia. Interbreeding depends on the distance of lineages between them. We do have neanderthal and denisovan DNA in us. The problem is that either you do not know about biology or are willfully ignoring it.

 

[Aupmanyav]

It is just like old computer languages (Erland, Haskell, Visual Basic, Objective-C, Perl), microprocessors (Microprocessor chronology - Wikipedia) and software (Category:Discontinued software - Wikipedia) go and are replaced by new.

 

[YoursTrue]

We ourselves are in-between and so are all other primates, gorillas, bobobos, chimpanzees and orangutans. Evolution is an ever-ongoing process. Do you think evolution will stop with Homo sapiens sapiens? Some survive and flourish, others become extinct.

There are more than 260 different types of monkeys. They are separated into two major categories: New World and Old World. Google Search, 28-May-2014.
We too are, sort of, old world monkeys.

Homo rhodensis, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo naledi, Homo ergaster, Homo antecessor, Homo neanderthalensis, Homo denisova, Homo floresiensis, did not survive. All were slightly different from us. See the list of lineages here: Homo - Wikipedia. Interbreeding depends on the distance of lineages between them. We do have neanderthal and denisovan DNA in us. The problem is that either you do not know about biology or are willfully ignoring it.

Biology does not prove that humans are here because of evolution. If you think so, that's what you think. I no longer go with that.

 

[YoursTrue]

It is just like old computer languages (Erland, Haskell, Visual Basic, Objective-C, Perl), microprocessors (Microprocessor chronology - Wikipedia) and software (Category:Discontinued software - Wikipedia) go and are replaced by new.

Small chuckle

 

[YoursTrue]

Utter nonsense.

I don't think so.

 

[YoursTrue]

Utter nonsense.

Lol. No proof, all conjecture for your beliefs.

 

[YoursTrue]

Other creatures do not waste their time, on scriptures and on forums.
We do have our uniqueness, just like all other creatures also have. But then, we have commonalities also.
8 Human-Like Behaviors of Primates

Ha uniqueness. Good you got that at least. Oh and perhaps you'll say everyone and everything is "unique." We can learn from the ants. But it's been interesting to look into these ideas.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Biology does not prove that humans are here because of evolution. If you think so, that's what you think. I no longer go with that.

We have a prayer in Hinduism "Tamaso mam Jyotir-gamayah" (Lead me from darkness to light). You seem to believe in the opposite "Jyotirmam Tamaso gamayah" (Lead me from light to darkness). Well, your wish.

Ha uniqueness. Good you got that at least. Oh and perhaps you'll say everyone and everything is "unique." We can learn from the ants. But it's been interesting to look into these ideas.

Good that you realize that. Every thing (even two stones, in shape, composition, etc. - as Buddhists would say Nama-roopa), is unique. There will be Homo sapiens futurensis.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Biology does not prove that humans are here because of evolution. If you think so, that's what you think. I no longer go with that.

Clearly, a horse can be lead to water, but it cannot be made to drink.

Evolution is the process that resulted in all existing species including humans. The evidence (that you deny without even the merest attempt to understand) supports this conclusion. It does not prove it. But what is the point in trying to educate a willfully ignorant person that refuses to learn. Most are here just to point out your follow so it does not confuse and misinform others.