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Does God Care What We Believe?

Does God care what we believe?

  • Yes; no matter how good we are as people, he demands we believe certain things.

    Votes: 5 20.8%
  • No; our actions and how we treat others is paramount.

    Votes: 19 79.2%

  • Total voters
    24

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
A degree of spontaneity doesn't justify self-righteousness.

Any monotheistic God, by definition, must maintain supremacy. The adverse does not describe God; it describes a subordinate. You're subordinating God beneath your "free will". This is autolatry.
Supremacy gave liberty of choice along with an end-time judgment on the choice as a Supreme Being. He still reigns Supreme
 
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Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
So, you just convince yourself of your claims about Christianity by making up facts? Is that why you are unable to provide any evidence to back them up?
So you have convinced yourself by making up facts?
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
While you are correct, they wrote as inspired to do so by God. The secret, [which is not secret really in a sense] is that to receive God's message from the scripture written under inspiration requires that the reader or hearer be also inspired by God. Without that inspiration the writings we call as scriptures are a dead carcass.

Jesus was also a dead carcass hanging on a cross. His carcass came to Life. Similarly the carcass which a man consumes by reading or listening to what is written in the Bible can be quickened [brought to Life] in that man by the Holy Spirit.

Not having received the Holy Spirit you disbelieve me and God, but for you there is still time...
Seeing how it is not possible to force belief without being convinced, how do I become convinced to believe the claims made in the Bible? How are you so confident that Jesus actually rose?
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
A good life can only be lived by someone who believes that it is a possibility for them and they haven't given in to a victim mentality to where they feel they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Are you trying to say that belief in an afterlife is somehow a prerequisite?
 

Amadeus27

Member
Seeing how it is not possible to force belief without being convinced, how do I become convinced to believe the claims made in the Bible? How are you so confident that Jesus actually rose?
In me alone I cannot. Even Jesus could not. Each person still has his own will. The Way to God requires that a person surrender his own will to God's will. God gave each of the dominion and even He will not force a person. He provided a Way to come to Him through His Son, but the pathway is through faith, rather than knowledge. Along the pathway some knowledge will come, but the first step is by faith.

You don't want scripture as evidence, but scripture also describes what is needed to receive faith.

By faith I am confident that he rose from the dead. Proof God has given to me, but as I may have mentioned previously, what I have is not transferable unless God is in the transfer. So long as you continue to limit God in that respect He is limited. He gave you that authority. You can give it back but He cannot break His own Word and force you while still have time remaining. Every one has time and then...
 
Are you trying to say that belief in an afterlife is somehow a prerequisite?
No, not after, but now. You can't deny that you live. Even if you didn't know about oxygen, your lungs would still expand and contract keeping you alive. You don't have to believe in water to be a fish. You already are alive, and living off universal substance both emotionally and physically. You don't have to learn or believe to be human, you just are. Fighting would be in vain though, and probably unhealthy
 
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