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Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
There is much more to Truth and how we pursue it than science uncovering objective knowledge. Global warming has taught us better than any other area, that scientists and academic institutions aren't above corruption.

Nobody ever said any human was above corruption. So what? Are you trying to say that thousands of scientists in multiple disciplines are all wrong about global warming or tens of millions of data points from those multiple disciplines have been tampered with, or that there are thousands of scientists who cannot correlate data points and draw correct conclusions? That would be another thread....but it's been done a few dozen times already.

What better method is there than actually following a rigorous scientific process?
 
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ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
Nobody ever said any human was above corruption. So what? Are you trying to say that thousands of scientists in multiple disciplines are all wrong about global warming or tens of millions of data points from those multiple disciplines have been tampered with, or that there are thousands of scientists who cannot correlate data points and draw correct conclusions? That would be another thread....but it's been done a few dozen times already.

What better method is there than actually following a rigorous scientific process?

There is no better method, but money in large quantities will corrupt any "rigorous scientific process", and has. Corruption has always had the edge.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
There is no better method, but money in large quantities will corrupt any "rigorous scientific process", and has. Corruption has always had the edge.

Can you provide evidence showing that such large-scale corruption of science has occured? What scientific data is innaccurate? Which specific scientists can you show have produced faulty observations or have falsified data?
 

ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
Sure, here's the first one with some quotes (the first one about Figueres pisses me off the most). It would've let me nearly all of what I have, and I've just scratched the surface:



Christiana Figueres, former executive secretary of U.N.'s Framework Convention on Climate Change quote:
"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model (read capitalism) that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.”—this is accurate



The Smoking Gun (Link):
http://www.green-agenda.com/

 

ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
These are sources, some links are dead or subscription, but I have relevant excepts and of course if you're really interested, you can look them up on line:



EARTH IN THE BALANCE

Don't Believe the Hype
Al Gore is wrong. There's no "consensus" on global warming.

BY RICHARD S. LINDZEN
Sunday, July 2, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT
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WSJ.com Opinion Journal
Don't Be Very Worried
The truth about "global warming" is much less dire than Al Gore wants you to think.

BY PETE DU PONT
Tuesday, May 23, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT
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UN downgrades man's impact on the climate


Richard Gray, Science Correspondent, Sunday Telegraph

Last Updated: 1:37am GMT 11/12/2006

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Mars Is Warming, NASA Scientists Report

Data coincide with increasing solar output
Written By: James M. Taylor
Published In: Environment News
Publication Date: November 1, 2005
Publisher: The Heartland Institute


The September 30 news release announcing the findings of the Duke University research, "Sun's Direct Role in Global Warming May Be Underestimated, Duke Physicists Report," is available online at http://www.dukenews.duke.edu/2005/09/sunwarm.html.
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Email Scandal

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)

U of East Anglia’s (UEA) Climate Research Unit (CRU)

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Written by Rebecca Terrell and Ed Hiserodt

Monday, 23 November 2009 00:00

Global warming alarmists are scrambling to save face after hackers stole hundreds of incriminating e-mails from a British university and published them on the Internet.

The messages were pirated from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia (UEA) and reveal correspondence between British and American researchers engaged in fraudulent reporting of data to favor their own climate change agenda. UEA officials confirmed one of their servers was hacked, and several of the scientists involved admitted the authenticity of the messages, according to the New York Times. The article opined, "The evidence pointing to a growing human contribution to global warming is so widely accepted that the hacked material is unlikely to erode the overall argument."

Climatologist Patrick J. Michaels challenged that position. "This is not a smoking gun, this is a mushroom cloud." The e-mails implicate scores of researchers, most of whom are associated with the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), an organization many skeptics believe was created exclusively to provide evidence of anthropogenic global warming (AGW).

Among the IPCC elite embarrassingly, if not criminally, compromised is Phillip D. Jones, a Ph.D. climatologist at the University of East Anglia whose work figured prominently in the IPCC Third Assessment Report of 2001. Jones also contributed significantly to the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report in 2007 (AR4), but he failed to follow through when skeptical investigators asked to review raw data associated with that report. They announced intent to use UK Freedom of Information laws to obtain the data, so Jones sent the following e-mail to one of his collaborators: "Mike, Can you delete any e-mails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise.... Can you also e-mail Gene and get him to do the same?... Will be getting Caspar to do likewise." The Mike in this message is Michael Mann, professor of meteorology at Pennsylvania State University, whose influential "hockey stick" graph warning of pending global warming eco-catastrophe was found by a congressional investigation to be fraudulent. In another correspondence about AR4 labeled HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL, Jones contacted Mann regarding research critical of their global warming platform. "I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report," wrote Jones. "Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"

Mann received another incriminating e-mail from Dr. Kevin Trenberth, a New Zealander now with the University of Colorado and Head of the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. "The fact is we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't." An incredulous Trenberth simply blamed "our [inadequate] observing system." Yet he and his colleagues are now dodging the "Climategate" bullet, indignant that global warming skeptics are supposedly taking their comments out of context. One wonders if they might be referring to a message from Jones who wrote about a statistical "trick" he used to "hide" data. Or perhaps they mean Mann's reference to climate change skeptics as "idiots."

Now that AGW is revealed as a farce, will big-spending politicians in the U.S. Senate halt efforts to impose a cap-and-trade system to ostensibly combat greenhouse gases and global warming? Of course not. Cap and trade is about raising taxes and increasing government control over our entire economy. Our socialist politicians in Washington will never stop pushing this issue, even if global-warming alarmism is disproven to the point that Hell really does freeze over.

Will widespread and irrefutable knowledge of scientific fraud silence the socialist promoters of a new United Nations Climate Change protocol? Nonsense. In the name of saving the planet, the UN Copenhagen Treaty they intend to impose on the world would help to shackle it. Specifically, their "green" agenda would impose international controls, diminish the industrial might and living standards of developed nations, and transfer wealth from rich countries to poorer ones in an emerging world government. Internationalists and socialists will not back away from their long-sought-after global designs simply because the "science" supporting runaway global warming is shown to be flawed. No doubt they will continue to demand retributions for climate debt from the United States and the largely agreeable EU, despite Trenberth's observed "lack of warming."

The good thing is that even more than in the past, these false scientists and their alarmism will be countered with their own words. Even now reliable researchers are compiling the information in a publication that should shake our nation — and maybe even a few Democratic politicians.
 

Cateau

Giovanni Pico & Della Barba Devotee
No I think he gets that the whole world is inside himself and is at peace with not having everyone on his side because he is at peace with himself and knows that he will never be truly alone because he has himself, and honestly sometimes one is happiest that way in their own heads....but he has a purpose to fulfill in us all and is always at work so highly doubt he gets bored, as he can hear the stars make music, see the orbit of planets, among other things no doubt not to mention he has a nemisis.
 
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