Does god make a good parent?

[Revoltingest]

I don't think the JW creed is benign. I was told by a couple of JWs 24 years ago that my baby son would have been better off dead than receive a life saving blood transfusion! Just recently in the UK a teenage JW boy died rather than have a blood transfusion, which would certainly have saved his life!

I'm sure that some misbehave, but in comparison to many others I find them 'safer'.
(You won't find me joining'm though.)

 

[it's_sam]

Well, what religious leader/prophet/zombie isn't a twit? They all push some loony set of myths as the absolute inerrant truth.
They JWs impress me in one really useful way though - they're benign...no voting, no soldiering, & unfailingly pleasant to me.
I contrast that with other religions where the adherents are continually trying to get the government to force me to do something,
no vile demonstrations at funerals, no fertilizer bombs in trucks, no Pope lobbying against capitalism, etc, etc. JWs are just plain
cute & lovable!

:hapbirth: OHH i hope you werent JW! :sorry1:

 

[it's_sam]

Do you think russels hell is a birthday party planner? Perhaps he has pay back for the ones he took from kids nationwide.

 

[Revoltingest]

OHH i hope you werent JW!

Never been a JW or any other flavor of believer, just a lifelong atheist.

 

[it's_sam]

Oh i know that revoltingest im not totaly blind! HAHA i still think it would be suited though, and i mean as far as hell goes a birthday planner isnt that bad.

 

[it's_sam]

Well at any rate like any religion built by "one" person I more often then not disagree with the practices. I even understand what they are saying about not celebrating... i guess. but I have had them tell me that they dont feel there is any need since it wont get you closer to god, and you should have reasons of family for getting together. Well my family gets together enough as it is, we dont need reasons but it helps for getting them all together at once. I dont see how making someone know they are special to their parents gets you further away from God during a birthday party "anyone elaborate?". Do they even know if this guy just never got any birthday parties and didnt want to be alone in that? He was older perhaps he was sick of the birthday party wars kids used to have "back in the day", you know "my party was better!" and then "NO WAY!! my party was better!". At any rate even for jealousy i dont see this getting rid of any problems its just making more.

 

[Autodidact]

The more stuff of yours I read, the more I am convinced that you never ever even went to a single meeting in your life, let alone being from a multi-generational Witness family.
As a side note;
my experiences have always shown the the rabid opposer or apostate has no problem with lying.

My limited experience with YOU is that you are comfortable accusing anyone of lying with no basis whatsoever, and I think that displays a profound lack of morality on your part.

 

[Autodidact]

Anna, im sure that how you feel about you're experiences growing up are legitimate. I know that there is a lot of expectations put on young jw's as they are growing up. Parents can sometimes forget that belief is a personal matter and not everyone thinks that Jehovahs standards and ways are for them...you obviously are one of them.

I'm sure it's more comfortable for you to believe that someone is simply not up to your standards, but I think it's profoundly disrespectful to ignore what she is telling you herself, which is that after examining the evidence your beliefs seem to be false.

 

[no-body]

Not sure how this thread went from God as a parental figure to discussing JW but...

I find it unlikely that every single excommunicated JW has an axe to grind and is lying. The common thread in their stories is that the elders are all too human and as fallible as anyone else in miss abusing their power and forming little cliques. JW tend to be a little (very little) saner in their religious views than other fundamentalist groups but like the Mormons I feel really really badly for their kids, especially any LGTB.

 

[Thief]

if you had to live for eternity on a perfect earth, i'd say after about 200-300 years, once you've found absolutely everything on the planet and experienced everything you possibly could, you'd feel pretty trapped being stuck on this hunk of rock for the rest of eternity, which is a concept most people will find they cannot grasp but they will go around and spout it constantly.

And perhaps...keeping to this line of thought....
Adam and Eve ate the fruit...to get themselves kicked out of the Garden.
900 years cooped up in a Garden!.....torture!

 

[Thief]

Did someone mention the word 'father'?
Did someone define it on spiritual terms?

If you think of God as father....then are you not a son of God?

What kind of children has God begotten?

So is this thread about Him?...or us?

Did I miss it?
Did someone get it right?

 

[Autodidact]

Not sure how this thread went from God as a parental figure to discussing JW but...

I find it unlikely that every single excommunicated JW has an axe to grind and is lying. The common thread in their stories is that the elders are all too human and as fallible as anyone else in miss abusing their power and forming little cliques. JW tend to be a little (very little) saner in their religious views than other fundamentalist groups but like the Mormons I feel really really badly for their kids, especially any LGTB.

Or anyone who needs a blood transfusion.

 

[waitasec]

Did someone mention the word 'father'?
Did someone define it on spiritual terms?

If you think of God as father....then are you not a son of God?

What kind of children has God begotten?

So is this thread about Him?...or us?

Did I miss it?
Did someone get it right?

here

John 1:10-13
Romans 8:22-25
Galatians 4:1-7
Ephesians 1:3-6
Psalm 68:5

 

[Thief]

here

John 1:10-13
Romans 8:22-25
Galatians 4:1-7
Ephesians 1:3-6
Psalm 68:5

Thank you.

 

[msDANAq8]

((Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,Allah , the Eternal Refuge,He neither begets nor is born,Nor is there to Him any equivalent))

he is not my father not urs and not any one father,,,he is our((GOD))and we r his Slaves,,

 

[waitasec]

((Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,Allah , the Eternal Refuge,He neither begets nor is born,Nor is there to Him any equivalent))

he is not my father not urs and not any one father,,,he is our((GOD))and we r his Slaves,,

gee great
so much for freedom

 

[McBell]

((Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,Allah , the Eternal Refuge,He neither begets nor is born,Nor is there to Him any equivalent))

he is not my father not urs and not any one father,,,he is our((GOD))and we r his Slaves,,

Wow.
And you CHOSE this particular tyrant to be your god?
That seems rather revealing.

 

[Autodidact]

((Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,Allah , the Eternal Refuge,He neither begets nor is born,Nor is there to Him any equivalent))

he is not my father not urs and not any one father,,,he is our((GOD))and we r his Slaves,,

Well that's an interesting religious metaphor. Tell me, does a moral person own slaves?

 

[jonman122]

Well that's an interesting religious metaphor. Tell me, does a moral person own slaves?

well yeah, it says you can own slaves in the bible so it must be moral

 

[Thief]

well yeah, it says you can own slaves in the bible so it must be moral

This makes you a candidate.

Or perhaps you would say ...'nay'.