Does god make a good parent?

[Autodidact]

If a parent tells their child was worthless, evil and lucky to be kept alive, what kind of person would that child turn out to be? If a parent executed their child for second guessing them or for disobeying, is that setting a standard for an exemplary parent? I hear this all the time, 'god loves us like a father would.' I couldn’t disagree more. 1st, as a parent, my love is unconditional and I would never set my child up for failure just so he would have to depend on me for everything, from buying a car/house to getting a better job or meeting the right person. My will would trump his and nothing good can come from him and the only good thing about him isn’t him it’s his faith in me…
I think god would FAIL as a parent.
Any thoughts?

Generally speaking, deliberately drowning your children is not considered good parenting. For that reason alone I think we would have to see God as a bad parent.

 

[Misty]

Generally speaking, deliberately drowning your children is not considered good parenting. For that reason alone I think we would have to see God as a bad parent.

I agree!

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Generally speaking, deliberately drowning your children is not considered good parenting. For that reason alone I think we would have to see God as a bad parent.

That depends on the kids.

 

[waitasec]

Generally speaking, deliberately drowning your children is not considered good parenting. For that reason alone I think we would have to see God as a bad parent.

:clap

I agree!

That depends on the kids.

:cigar:

 

[Smokeless Indica]

I adore them. One minute they make me bang my head against the wall, and the next they make me so proud of them and their own accomplishments. Overall, though, I'd rather have it that way than me chasing after them and micromanaging their every move.

I was only joking. LOL I was a teen 3 years ago. LOL

 

[MurphtheSurf]

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I'm sorry but I would not want to live an eternal life in any fashion of the sense. When I die, I'm fine with just being dead.



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How about in a perfect world? Ponder carefully what a perfect world would be like, and get back to me and tell me what you think.

 

[jonman122]

How about in a perfect world? Ponder carefully what a perfect world would be like, and get back to me and tell me what you think.

if you had to live for eternity on a perfect earth, i'd say after about 200-300 years, once you've found absolutely everything on the planet and experienced everything you possibly could, you'd feel pretty trapped being stuck on this hunk of rock for the rest of eternity, which is a concept most people will find they cannot grasp but they will go around and spout it constantly.

 

[Smokeless Indica]

How about in a perfect world? Ponder carefully what a perfect world would be like, and get back to me and tell me what you think.

I still would want to just be dead and not live for an eternity.

 

[Smokeless Indica]

if you had to live for eternity on a perfect earth, i'd say after about 200-300 years, once you've found absolutely everything on the planet and experienced everything you possibly could, you'd feel pretty trapped being stuck on this hunk of rock for the rest of eternity, which is a concept most people will find they cannot grasp but they will go around and spout it constantly.

I would probably have a panic attack after I'd done everything and seen everything and had nothing else to do. I would feel like a Sim just doing the same stuff day in and day out with nothing changing.

 

[MurphtheSurf]

if you had to live for eternity on a perfect earth, i'd say after about 200-300 years, once you've found absolutely everything on the planet and experienced everything you possibly could, you'd feel pretty trapped being stuck on this hunk of rock for the rest of eternity, which is a concept most people will find they cannot grasp but they will go around and spout it constantly.

Since the beginning of time, mankind has yet to find out all the wonders that are out there in the world, oceans and space. What makes you think we will ever discover all the wonders that be in a couple of hundred years?
As for me, I Look forward to looking and feeling like a 25 year old again. No offense, but such a prospect probably can't be realized by any 14 year old atheist boy.
Especially one who looks forward to dying and staying dead.

 

[MurphtheSurf]

I still would want to just be dead and not live for an eternity.

It's very sad to me hearing such thoughts coming from a 22 year old girl. Are these the thoughts of todays worldly youth in general?

 

[jonman122]

Since the beginning of time, mankind has yet to find out all the wonders that are out there in the world, oceans and space. What makes you think we will ever discover all the wonders that be in a couple of hundred years?
As for me, I Look forward to looking and feeling like a 25 year old again. No offense, but such a prospect probably can't be realized by any 14 year old atheist boy.
Especially one who looks forward to dying and staying dead.

i'm 19 not 14, and i've obviously had a better education than you, or you would know better than to pass judgement on something you have absolutely no idea about, nor are you qualified to answer. If we are limited to just earth, then yeah theres not much more to find. The thing we are reaching towards now is space exploration, and that should be studied more in depth, rather than assuming we are in the end times and since the world is going to end you should just drop out of school, be uneducated, not have a job and live on welfare.

i would rather be dead than see my entire family and all of my loved ones who have died, and have no emotions to regard them with. that is the jehovahs witness belief, that when you are in the new paradise on earth, you won't have emotions. How would you feel about your loved ones then? pretty apathetic i'd say, seeing as you wouldn't feel for them at all and you may as well say they aren't your loved ones.

 

[waitasec]

i'm 19 not 14, and i've obviously had a better education than you, or you would know better than to pass judgement on something you have absolutely no idea about, nor are you qualified to answer. If we are limited to just earth, then yeah theres not much more to find. The thing we are reaching towards now is space exploration, and that should be studied more in depth, rather than assuming we are in the end times and since the world is going to end you should just drop out of school, be uneducated, not have a job and live on welfare.

i would rather be dead than see my entire family and all of my loved ones who have died, and have no emotions to regard them with. that is the jehovahs witness belief, that when you are in the new paradise on earth, you won't have emotions. How would you feel about your loved ones then? pretty apathetic i'd say, seeing as you wouldn't feel for them at all and you may as well say they aren't your loved ones.

good point:bow:
and how, to those who are not jehovahs witness, are they able to enjoy heaven knowing their loved ones, who are not believers, are suffering in torment? they would have to be engulfed in SELF, wouldn't they?

 

[MurphtheSurf]

i'm 19 not 14,

Excuse me, I didn't know that looking younger than you are would upset you so. Maybe it's because I'm so old.

and i've obviously had a better education than you, or you would know better than to pass judgement on something you have absolutely no idea about, nor are you qualified to answer.

And is this not the exact same way you are handling my points of view?

If we are limited to just earth, then yeah theres not much more to find. The thing we are reaching towards now is space exploration, and that should be studied more in depth, rather than assuming we are in the end times and since the world is going to end you should just drop out of school, be uneducated, not have a job and live on welfare.

Well, now you're beginning to rave. Me and my kind all have jobs, have been to schools and universities, have military experiences and loads of life experiences that most will never realize.
Are you saying that none of that matters because we are not atheists? Does that make us inferior to you and your kind, in your opinion?

i would rather be dead than see my entire family and all of my loved ones who have died, and have no emotions to regard them with. that is the jehovahs witness belief, that when you are in the new paradise on earth, you won't have emotions

And where did that come from? Who told you that?

How would you feel about your loved ones then? pretty apathetic i'd say, seeing as you wouldn't feel for them at all and you may as well say they aren't your loved ones.

How could you be so misinformed as one with such a fine education so much more superior than mine?
I will commend you in one way though, at least you don't write things here in text message form. I appreciate that.

 

[jonman122]

Well, now you're beginning to rave. Me and my kind all have jobs, have been to schools and universities, have military experiences and loads of life experiences that most will never realize.
Are you saying that none of that matters because we are not atheists? Does that make us inferior to you and your kind, in your opinion?

i didn't say inferior, and it is also against Jehovahs witness beliefs to join the military or be involved in political matters, even if some do. The stuff i've heard (and read) about jehovahs witnesses comes from witnesses themselves, people who grew up as witnesses and left because of how terrible it was, and from books handed out to me by witnesses who came to my door. All of the things i know about Jehovahs witnesses, comes from them. I don't see where you get your information from though.

 

[MurphtheSurf]

i didn't say inferior, and it is also against Jehovahs witness beliefs to join the military or be involved in political matters, even if some do. The stuff i've heard (and read) about jehovahs witnesses comes from witnesses themselves, people who grew up as witnesses and left because of how terrible it was, and from books handed out to me by witnesses who came to my door. All of the things i know about Jehovahs witnesses, comes from them. I don't see where you get your information from though.

Specifically, where did you hear that all people who live in the paradise earth will be devoid of emotions? As you should know with your contacts with JW's, they don't publish or preach anything without scriptural backing, EVER.

 

[jonman122]

Specifically, where did you hear that all people who live in the paradise earth will be devoid of emotions? As you should know with your contacts with JW's, they don't publish or preach anything without scriptural backing, EVER.

the idea of a paradise earth and half of the things that jehovahs witnesses believe dont have scriptural backing. Paradise, as the bible says, is in heaven up with god in the sky somewhere. They do however, have the backing of the Watchtower, and the watchtower society claims to have its writers made up of "indirect prophets" or something like that where they speak directly to god and put his "new words" in to the watchtower magazine. In fact, Jehovahs witnesses arent supposed to be on chat rooms or forums at all, according to Watchtower.org

 

[MurphtheSurf]

the idea of a paradise earth and half of the things that jehovahs witnesses believe dont have scriptural backing. Paradise, as the bible says, is in heaven up with god in the sky somewhere. They do however, have the backing of the Watchtower, and the watchtower society claims to have its writers made up of "indirect prophets" or something like that where they speak directly to god and put his "new words" in to the watchtower magazine. In fact, Jehovahs witnesses arent supposed to be on chat rooms or forums at all, according to Watchtower.org

So I take it you have no answer to the question, as your post of deflection indicates?

Perhaps you can give me a couple examples of something they teach that is not scriptural?

 

[jonman122]

So I take it you have no answer to the question, as your post of deflection indicates?

Perhaps you can give me a couple examples of something they teach that is not scriptural?

i heard it from my girlfriend who has been raised/is being raised as a jehovahs witness. She can't even tell them she isn't religious or they will throw her out. She told me she'd rather die than live in what Jehovahs witnesses call "paradise earth" because she was taught that, because it is perfect, you would also be devoid of emotion. Also that you shouldn't make friends with anyone who isn't a Jehovahs witness, because they will not be ressurected in after armageddon. Now remember, Jehovahs witnesses who are born into it are taught the "greater truth" than those converted. She actually already had that argument with Pegg.

 

[MurphtheSurf]

i heard it from my girlfriend who has been raised/is being raised as a jehovahs witness. She can't even tell them she isn't religious or they will throw her out. She told me she'd rather die than live in what Jehovahs witnesses call "paradise earth" because she was taught that, because it is perfect, you would also be devoid of emotion. Also that you shouldn't make friends with anyone who isn't a Jehovahs witness, because they will not be ressurected in after armageddon. Now remember, Jehovahs witnesses who are born into it are taught the "greater truth" than those converted. She actually already had that argument with Pegg.

So you have no reliable sources for your arguements other than an alleged affair with someone who is living for the day when she can leave home and the JW's?
Seems that your source has an axe to grind and must be considered unreliable.
I would like to see that exchange between her and Pegg. Could you direct me to that?