Does God want everyone to believe in him?

[Scuba Pete]

No you do in fact exist from your perceptions but that has nothing to do with whether or not a deity exist.

Would you like to try again?

The hypothesis was laid and was fully vindicated by the fact. There is no need to try again. I feel no compulsion to adjust my premise at this point in time. Ergo, my conclusion has been justified.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

The hypothesis was laid and was fully vindicated by the fact. There is no need to try again. I feel no compulsion to adjust my premise at this point in time. Ergo, my conclusion has been justified.

Oh so you have tested the hypotheses several times then, please provide these tests.

 

[Fool]

So if the action and reaction are more important does that mean the actions Christians have made as a whole should be held against Christianity?

being the majority/minority doesn't necessarily make you a bad/good person. even lady justice doesn't look at outward appearances. you suppose everyone named ted should be lumped together with ted bundy?

 

[Fool]

Physiological no, psychological yes. But that does not prove that love is all powerful like you claim.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/525439-a-lack-of-affection-in-childhood-development/

Children may manifest moderate to severe levels of cognitive, physical and emotional stagnation when not shown adequate attention and affection by a caring and nurturing caregiver. The plight of Romania's orphans, brought to light with the fall of communism and the reign of dictator Nicolae Ceausescu in 1989, dramatically illustrated the effects severe emotional neglect may have on a child's development. Such deprivation, it turns out, has profound implications for a child's brain development, physical growth and long-term mental health.


http://www.americanhumane.org/children/stop-child-abuse/fact-sheets/child-neglect.html

Physical neglect can severely impact a child’s development by causing failure to thrive; malnutrition; serious illness; physical harm in the form of cuts, bruises, burns or other injuries due to the lack of supervision; and a lifetime of low self-esteem.

 

[Fool]

First of all these are hypothesis.

Second of all just because information (aka energy) is eternal that does not mean that it must stay in its current form.

a hypothesis is not tested, or proven. theorem's are. this has been proven. that is why it is called the no-hiding-theorem.

 

[Scuba Pete]

Oh so you have tested the hypotheses several times then, please provide these tests.

You just don't get it, do you? Sad that.

 

[Scuba Pete]

I thought I did, as did several others, when we pointed out there is no real proof of God.

See, even the OP sees your "there ain't no God" mantra as hijacking his thread. I get that you don't have a conscience and that spreading your gospel of "there ain't no God" is paramount, but the question was directed at those who actually believed in God.

 

[rgrayberg]

I often sent out one of my kids to tell my other kid to come home. That didn't mean I didn't talk to them once they got there. It was nigh on to impossible until that point.

Of course there is always a question about what form of being God is. It may be that this being does not communicate the same way humans do and therefore requires other human to communicate through. Another thought....if God were to appear, how many would believe it? One of the Christian arguments is that God made an appearance (Jesus) and people didn't believe it so they killed him. Wouldn't it be the same today? The appearance of God would threaten the entire political position of the world... similar to when claims were made 2000 years ago.

 

[prometheus11]

Of course there is always a question about what form of being God is. It may be that this being does not communicate the same way humans do and therefore requires other human to communicate through. Another thought....if God were to appear, how many would believe it? One of the Christian arguments is that God made an appearance (Jesus) and people didn't believe it so they killed him. Wouldn't it be the same today? The appearance of God would threaten the entire political position of the world... similar to when claims were made 2000 years ago.

Are you suggesting that God could show up and intend for people to believe in him and fail to convince people of his deitiness?

 

[Scuba Pete]

Of course there is always a question about what form of being God is. It may be that this being does not communicate the same way humans do and therefore requires other human to communicate through. Another thought....if God were to appear, how many would believe it? One of the Christian arguments is that God made an appearance (Jesus) and people didn't believe it so they killed him. Wouldn't it be the same today? The appearance of God would threaten the entire political position of the world... similar to when claims were made 2000 years ago.

That's pretty insightful. It's my belief that God is spirit and so appeals to the spiritual side of me. When the scriptures suggest that we were created in the image of God, most people think physical while it's obvious to me that it's spiritual. We are spirits in a material world. Focus on only the material and you're sure to miss God, the spirit.

 

[rgrayberg]

Are you suggesting that God could show up and intend for people to believe in him and fail to convince people of his deitiness?

Yes. Some people will not believe or believe that there is this god but reject anyway because the rules the god lays out.

 

[prometheus11]

Yes. Some people will not believe or believe that there is this god but reject anyway because the rules the god lays out.

Not accepted. God has just got to be as convincing as Chuck Norris. I would think that if God wanted to convince people he existed, he could do that.

 

[LuisDantas]

To the best of my understanding, the concept of "free will" was created in an attempt to explain why such a contradiction could possibly happen.

It works as a sort of apparently voluntary limitation to God's power. Supposedly God is a gentleman who will not convince us "against our will".

Of course, many people believe that this is the same God who once created a deluge in order to kill nearly all of humanity.

 

[RedDragon94]

And I didn't say it had to interact with everyone.

I said - "...if a God existed, - then it would definitely be that God's own fault for not revealing itself to potential new followers..."

Since you wanted an answer, - I chose from a section of what you said - in question.

"...The reason why people never believe in God is simply because he never reveals himself to them, as a result they have no choice but to disbelieve. God could reveal himself to them through people around them but he doesn't. This is partially God's fault..."

EDIT - Forgot to add that the idea of a God - having a specific plan for each of us - is a belief.

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God never does not reveal himself to a potential follower. Either you are a potential follower because God is revealing himself to you aren't and God is not revealing himself to you.

 

[Scuba Pete]

God has just got to be as convincing as Chuck Norris.

Setting the bar a little high, aren't you?

 

[muhammad_isa]

I would think that if God wanted to convince people he existed, he could do that.

That is hardly the point. He has created the universe and all it contains for a reason.
Yes, He could destroy it all at any time He wills, but instead, He will first cause 'the Christ' to return. This will unify believers in God to a large extent, but there will be a significant number of people who oppose, just as there is now. Many people particularly hate Islam, because they feel it interferes with their freedom or privileges

 

[prometheus11]

That is hardly the point. He has created the universe and all it contains for a reason.
Yes, He could destroy it all at any time He wills, but instead, He will first cause 'the Christ' to return. This will unify believers in God to a large extent, but there will be a significant number of people who oppose, just as there is now. Many people particularly hate Islam, because they feel it interferes with their freedom or privileges

I was responding to another person's claim. Thus, what I wrote was precisely the point.

 

[McBell]

That is hardly the point. He has created the universe and all it contains for a reason.

Without using circular reasoning, how do you know this?

 

[muhammad_isa]

Without using circular reasoning, how do you know this?

Are you suggesting that the universe exists without a reason? It goes against common sense .. we are endowed with intelligence. I deduce that life cannot be a coincidence.

You might think otherwise .. to me such a notion is totally illogical.

 

[McBell]

Are you suggesting that the universe exists without a reason? It goes against common sense .. we are endowed with intelligence. I deduce that life cannot be a coincidence.

You might think otherwise .. to me such a notion is totally illogical.

Let me reword the question...

That is hardly the point. He has created the universe and all it contains for a reason.

Without using a logical fallacy, how do you know this?