Does God want everyone to believe in him?

[Ingledsva]

what does the science say about the born of the universe?

Here is one idea.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/08/140807145618.htm

Here is an interesting lecture by Stephen Hawking which discusses many of the old ideas, and newer.

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can also go to any normal science site and read the standard info.

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[Unveiled Artist]

How can I be telling a God - a "tiresome" thing - like "how to be," - when I don't believe in your God.

You God believing folks saying such, - does not make it true.



And again - I see such statements as just words from religious people, - because they can not prove the actual existence of their Gods. They come up with meaningless sayings like - ""the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:... - or only to those who are ready, or have spiritual understanding, etc. Just excuses, for no real proof that they can give to nonbelievers. Just hang around - and believe - and maybe when you are one hundred years old "something" will happen.



Science has no problem with the universe. It is you folks that need a God to be involved. With no real proof.

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If I may.

How can you ask for proof of god/for something/one by nature has no definition?

Thats like asking for proof of the absense of space. Yes, we know there is space when there is nothing occupying the area but how do you describe the nature of a negative?

You have to base it on whats there, a positive (creation). If you dont see the negative as a reflection of a positive (god reflection of creation), how do you expect to find proof?

In short, you are asking an illogical question.

 

[arthra]

Red Dragon 94 wrote above:

"The reason why people never believe in God is simply because he never reveals himself to them, as a result they have no choice but to disbelieve. God could reveal himself to them through people around them but he doesn't."

I'm unsure of this above statement as it appears to be based on an assumption.... You yourself would have to be very close to God to know whether or not God would reveal Himself "through people around them but He doesn't."

 

[Ingledsva]

Hmmm. Why so evasive? Why so belligerent? I didn't say or even suggest that you believe in my God. No one is asking you to "just believe." I don't think anyone here believes you are prepared to open your eyes to see what is in front of your face.

Tell us where your heart is; that is, tell us about your god. It seems to be science. Tell us how science teaches you appreciate the Alaskan landscape, for instance, or how it connects you to the universe and the weirdo next door.

You keep asking for proof. Does a scientific mathematical proof carry any meaning at all for a kindergartner?

"Evasive" and "belligerent" - LOL!

How you keep coming up with such from normal answers to your questions - is truly baffling.

And our likes - are not our gods. Normal evolution, and chemistry, can tell you why we like things.

You know - like "love." You first spot the symmetry of the face, or frame, or whatever, (learned by the way, from your societal group) then you get close and pheromones cause the release of chemicals - sex hormones testosterone and oestrogen , then some adrenaline, and on to Dopamine, Serotonin, and oh that Oxytocin.

If you stay in proximity long enough and have repeat sex with THAT person - you can actually become addicted to the chemicals, and THAT person's pheromones.

That is the science of love.

That addiction is also one of the reasons abused people keep returning to their abusive sex partners.

When we view the beauty of nature, for instance, - chemicals are also released.

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[Ingledsva]

If I may.

How can you ask for proof of god/for something/one by nature has no definition?

Thats like asking for proof of the absense of space. Yes, we know there is space when there is nothing occupying the area but how do you describe the nature of a negative?

You have to base it on whats there, a positive (creation). If you dont see the negative as a reflection of a positive (god reflection of creation), how do you expect to find proof?

In short, you are asking an illogical question.

Actually the only reason I'm asking for real proof - is because they keep claiming we just don't see it, or accept it, or that nature has to somehow be from a God, etc.

I could care less if they believe it - as I've already said.

But if they are going to push it on us with such statements, - then they had better be able to actually prove there is a God.

For instance - Reflex said "I don't think anyone here believes you are prepared to open your eyes to see what is in front of your face."

When they make statements like that, - they had better be prepared to actually give real proof that - it is in front of my face.

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[Ingledsva]

then their claims are true, since the religion teaches the true things.

Again - this is your opinion. And I might add which of the thousands of religions?

Pagan texts are false if they are proven false.

Think about that. Neither Abrahamic or Pagan God stories have been proven true.

why don't you believe in the writing of Abrahamic religions?

Because I have studied them, and cannot believe a real God would put out such laws, allowing rape, murder, slavery, etc., or that such would commit the heinous murders of the innocent, for crimes committed by others, that these texts say this God did.

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[use_your_brain]

Here is one idea.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/08/140807145618.htm

Here is an interesting lecture by Stephen Hawking which discusses many of the old ideas, and newer.

http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-origin-of-the-universe.html

You can also go to any normal science site and read the standard info.

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Good, did they say the universe had a beginning? from what was it made at the very beginning?

 

[FearGod]

Again - there didn't have to be a who.

I'm afraid I prefer science to ancient religious texts and their understanding of how things work.

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How a tiny seed becomes a huge tree?
How that works?
How a tiny sperm and an egg becomes a wise human being?
How that works?

 

[Ingledsva]

Good, did they say the universe had a beginning? from what was it made at the very beginning?

Yes they do get into that. Read them, they are very interesting.

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[use_your_brain]

Again - this is your opinion. And I might add which of the thousands of religions?



Think about that. Neither Abrahamic or Pagan God stories have been proven true.



Because I have studied them, and cannot believe a real God would put out such laws, allowing rape, murder, slavery, etc., or that such would commit the heinous murders of the innocent, for crimes committed by others, that these texts say this God did.

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Yes false religions are proven not true.
are there any religions allowing rape, murder, slavery, etc and advocating the heinous murders of the innocent people?

 

[Ingledsva]

How a tiny seed becomes a huge tree?
How that works?
How a tiny sperm and an egg becomes a wise human being?
How that works?

Evolution.

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[use_your_brain]

Yes they do get into that. Read them, they are very interesting.

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they say the universe was made from dark energy. who I mean what made the dark energy?

 

[use_your_brain]

Evolution.

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What do you think if God created the nature by evolution process?

 

[FearGod]

Evolution.

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No, evolution doesn't mean growing.
Again,

How a tiny seed becomes a huge tree?
How that works?
How a tiny sperm and an egg becomes a wise human being?
How that works?

 

[Ingledsva]

Yes false religions are proven not true.
are there any religions allowing rape, murder, slavery, etc and advocating the heinous murders of the innocent people?

You think they are proven false, as opposed to yours.

But you don't seem to understand that to us the Abrahamic religions, are the same as those Pagan religions are to you. The Abrahamic God stories haven't been proven true either.

Abrahamic religions allowed rape, murder of those that are different, slavery, etc.

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[Ingledsva]

What do you think if God created the nature by evolution process?

Yes, I have heard some religious people say that.

However, I see no need of a God for the universe to be.

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[use_your_brain]

Yes, I have heard some religious people say that.

However, I see no need of a God for the universe to be.

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DO you mean the universe created its own self?

 

[Ingledsva]

No, evolution doesn't mean growing.
Again,

How a tiny seed becomes a huge tree?
How that works?
How a tiny sperm and an egg becomes a wise human being?
How that works?

Again - evolution.

noun: evolution;

1. the process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth.
synonyms: Darwinism, natural selection

2. the gradual development of something, especially from a simple to a more complex form.

From Google.

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[use_your_brain]

You think they are proven false, as opposed to yours.

But you don't seem to understand that to us the Abrahamic religions, are the same as those Pagan religions are to you. The Abrahamic God stories haven't been proven true either.

Abrahamic religions allowed rape, murder of those that are different, slavery, etc.

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You just said, they are proven not true. of course it is because they are the false religions.
As well as the Abrahamic religions, they are not true if they were proven not true.
There are some Abrahamic religiosn, which one that allowed rape, murder and slavery?

 

[Ingledsva]

DO you mean the universe created its own self?

This is going in circles.

Read the links. They address this.

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