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Does islam teach not to show image of living things?

Stevicus

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"Afghan Taliban vow to implement media ban on images of living things"



What harm is there to show the image of living things?

That would make TV rather dull. They wouldn't be able to have live interviews. They'd all be dead. Sitcoms with only dead people allowed. Soccer games where the players are dead. What kind of strange law is that?
 

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
"Afghan Taliban vow to implement media ban on images of living things"



What harm is there to show the image of living things?

Interesting.

From that link:

"It's only advice, and convincing people these things are really contrary to sharia (law) and must be avoided."

"The new law detailed several rules for news media, including banning the publication of images of all living things and ordering outlets not to mock or humiliate Islam, or contradict Islamic law."

Whatever floats their boat.
 

danieldemol

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"Afghan Taliban vow to implement media ban on images of living things"



What harm is there to show the image of living things?
There is no demonstrable harm, but like other religions such as Baha'i they arbitrarily consider some things a sin in my view.

But that's theocracy for you in my view - the arbitrary superstitions of those in power get enforced.
 

stevecanuck

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"Afghan Taliban vow to implement media ban on images of living things"



What harm is there to show the image of living things?

I don't think they can justify that based on scripture.
 

SalixIncendium

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Who knows? But both the Quran and the Bible seem to forbid it.
Unless the Taliban uses the Bible as their scripture, I'm not sure what this has to do with the Bible.

Also, you appear to be taking Exodus 20:4 out of context:

“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."

Exodus 20:5-6 goes on to say:

"You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments."
Poor phrasing that is surely open to interpretation, but I take the meaning as to not make images of things to bow down to or serve.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Who knows? But both the Quran and the Bible seem to forbid it.
The Bible forbids worshiping statues as gods, because God has no body and no form. Further, the Bible says nothing at all about representational drawings or paintings. Orthodox Jews tend to be uncomfortable with sculpture in general, but other jews, both religious and secular, have no problems with 3-D art. Many art museums have Jewish patrons.

Here is a painting by Chagall, a Jewish artist, called Moses and the Tablets.
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IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
"Afghan Taliban vow to implement media ban on images of living things"
They are simply returning to the laws they had in place the first time they were in power. Who can forget them blowing up the incredible Buddha statues. And how heartbreaking that little children would be punished for drawing stick figure people.
 

Valjean

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Bible forbids making images of God and worshiping them.
Yes. all images.

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." -- Exodus 20:4
 

Valjean

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Unless the Taliban uses the Bible as their scripture, I'm not sure what this has to do with the Bible.

Also, you appear to be taking Exodus 20:4 out of context:

“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth."

Exodus 20:5-6 goes on to say:

"You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments."
Poor phrasing that is surely open to interpretation, but I take the meaning as to not make images of things to bow down to or serve.
20:5 is a separate sentence.

You'd think God would be able to make His meaning clear and unambiguous. :rolleyes:
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Yes. all images.

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." -- Exodus 20:4
This verse cannot be removed from the context of the paragraph. The whole purpose of this commandment is to not worship other gods. Worshiping statues was one way to break this commandments. But it doesn't mean all statues were evil or forbidden. Two cherubim decorated the Ark of the Covenant. Moses was commanded by God to make a bronze image of a serpent. There were images in the Jewish temple: palm trees, open flowers, and 12 bronze oxen.
 

1213

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Yes. all images.

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." -- Exodus 20:4
I think that is speaking of graven images, idols that are made to be worshiped, because it continues by saying: "you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them".
 

Valjean

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This verse cannot be removed from the context of the paragraph. The whole purpose of this commandment is to not worship other gods. Worshiping statues was one way to break this commandments. But it doesn't mean all statues were evil or forbidden. Two cherubim decorated the Ark of the Covenant. Moses was commanded by God to make a bronze image of a serpent. There were images in the Jewish temple: palm trees, open flowers, and 12 bronze oxen.
So why not just say don't worship images? Surely the author of the universe could make Himself clear, should He want to.
There were lots of images and statues made by others; revered or worshiped by others. Christians are forbidden to bow down to existing images, or to make images themselves.
 
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IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
So why not just say don't worship images?
It does. When you read the entire paragraph, it is abundantly clear that this is what it is saying.
Surely the author of the universe could make Himself clear, should He want to.
There were lots of images and statues made by others; revered or worshiped by others. Christians are forbidden to bow down to existing images, or to make images themselves.
Christians have a long history of images in their churches. Many wear crosses around their necks. They have stained glass windows depicting bible scenes. Here is probably the best known Christian image where I live:

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