worshiper
Picker of Nose
Does it matter how the* universe was created?
Right now I am leaning towards - No
it might not matter ......but its good knowledge nonetheless (be it in an atheist's POV or theist's POV)
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Does it matter how universe was created?
- Thread starter Jeremiah
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it might not matter ......but its good knowledge nonetheless (be it in an atheist's POV or theist's POV)
Why would you want to be willfully ignorant?
Even if I knew he were real, I don't think I could force myself to worship the character depicted in the bible. So in this hypothetical situation, ignorance for me would be bliss. I'd rather live out the rest of this life without the fear of what may come in a next.
Jeremiah
Well-Known Member
The mystery of the 9-11 has had me completely confused.
How could such a thing happen?
I saw a video that suggested that religion was to blame. As an atheist I do not generally accept thing on faith. So I ask myself "is religion to blame?"
NO it is not. Moving on...I thought that maybe the blame lay on humans. So I had to ask myself "what causes a person do such acts of evil?" I can only conclude at this time that mankind is afflicted with madness.
Action without thought.... Think before you leap....Why do people fight so much? Is all this madness cause by our own selfish agenda? I just don't get it
Is mankind ready to receive the thruth?
Perhaps God has not appeared Earth because he is afraid of getting nuked.
How could such a thing happen?
I saw a video that suggested that religion was to blame. As an atheist I do not generally accept thing on faith. So I ask myself "is religion to blame?"
NO it is not. Moving on...I thought that maybe the blame lay on humans. So I had to ask myself "what causes a person do such acts of evil?" I can only conclude at this time that mankind is afflicted with madness.
Action without thought.... Think before you leap....Why do people fight so much? Is all this madness cause by our own selfish agenda? I just don't get it
Is mankind ready to receive the thruth?
Perhaps God has not appeared Earth because he is afraid of getting nuked.
lunamoth
Will to love
Does it matter how the* universe was created?
Right now I am leaning towards - No
*sets up soapbox*
If you are talking about scientific exploration into the universe and its origins, I'd say 'hell yes!' Curiosity is one of our finer human traits. And, most technologies you find useful (medicine, telecommunications, wireless, on and on) came into being not because someone said they were going to invent it, but because people were curious and one thing lead to another and then in hindsight "hey, that bacterial-killing activity just might be useful..." It's almost impossible to intentionally create applied technologies out of nothing, and it's almost equally impossible not to create applied technologies when you let scientific curiosity flourish unfettered.
*looks sheepishly at the microphone, steps down, picks up box and creeps away*
Added: ooops. seems I misunderstood the question. In that case I'd say that the myths about the creation of the universe do matter...to the people they belong to. They are not worth killing each other over, and frankly that whole thing perplexes me. But what can we expect when the leader of the free world says that evolution is "just a theory." :faint:
I'm not suggesting agnosticism inhibits wanting to know. By the very study of "knowing" (gnosis) you can arrive at the conclusion that there are some things you cannot know. Agnosticism arrived at through philosophy is a firm foundation for belief in the unknown.
Nanda
Polyanna
But the question is, "Does it matter?" and I think yes, it matters a great deal. Just because you can decide that something is unknowable, do you stop searching alltogether?
I'd rather be ignorant to the fact that in the next five minutes I'll be hit in the head with a brick and that there's nothing I can do to prevent it from happening than spend the next five minutes anticipating the inevitable. Would you want to see it coming?
Jeremiah
Well-Known Member
Albert Einstein and the Atomic Bomb
http://www.doug-long.com/einstein.htm
Is that how man uses the secrets of the universe?
http://www.doug-long.com/einstein.htm
Is that how man uses the secrets of the universe?
Good point. But not searching can make it matter, too.
Jeremiah
Well-Known Member
Why would you want to be willfully ignorant?
How is understanding our actions ignorance?
If an atheist pursues the truth without question is that any different than accepting god without question?
Jeremiah
Well-Known Member
Action without thought is that really a good thing?
Super Universe
Defender of God
Does it matter how the* universe was created?
Right now I am leaning towards - No
If you really start digging into the specifics you'll start to see that the universe didn't really have much room for error.
In fact the atom is precise to an astonishing degree. A tiny bit more mass in the proton or a teeny bit more speed and "whoosh!" it goes to pieces.
Then when you reflect upon how precise the physical laws are: gravity, strong and weak nuclear forces, electromagnetic forces, and you add in this mysterious thing that gives life to certain groups of atoms you really have to wonder how it all started by itself.
You see, the thing is, the universe is not just perfect but it had to create itself perfect in a precise order as well. One thing out of place and the whole thing comes crashing down. Too much gravity in the beginning and there is no big bang at all.
Once the universe tries to form and fails, it never ever starts up again.
Jeremiah
Well-Known Member
How does this relate to my question?
Nanda
Polyanna
Jeremiah
Well-Known Member
You already answered that question; I just wanted to hear more of your thoughts.
Sorry if I caused offense
Jeremiah
Well-Known Member
Does a fish need to understand where the ocean comes from?
(Not trying to be profound here. It's just that I've always wondered and I thought somebody here might know.
Thanks, that is a very good way to word it.
Nanda
Polyanna
No, no, I wasn't offended, just honestly confused - It seemed like your next question was in response to my comment, and not a new, separate question. Plus I didn't see (and still don't see, really) how the next questions related to the first.