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Does pornography have a legitimate place in society?

Does pornography have a legitimate place in society?

  • Yes

    Votes: 41 78.8%
  • No

    Votes: 5 9.6%
  • not sure

    Votes: 6 11.5%

  • Total voters
    52

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Unlike the gladiators, who were slaves, porn actors and actresses can leave at anytime. :rolleyes:

can you be 100% sure that the porn you are watching was made by consenting adults?

you do realise that there is a whole 'sex slave' market dont you? The sex slave market sees thousands of women and young girls sold into the sex industry, where they are drugged and abused and forced to work as sex slaves. Can you be fully sure that none of the porn industry use some of these women and girls?

i dont think anyone can be sure of that. So by continuing to support the porn industry, you may be inadvertently supporting the slavery of hundreds of thousands of these women.
 

Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
can you be 100% sure that the porn you are watching was made by consenting adults?

you do realise that there is a whole 'sex slave' market dont you? The sex slave market sees thousands of women and young girls sold into the sex industry, where they are drugged and abused and forced to work as sex slaves. Can you be fully sure that none of the porn industry use some of these women and girls?

i dont think anyone can be sure of that. So by continuing to support the porn industry, you may be inadvertently supporting the slavery of hundreds of thousands of these women.

I am no saint. I have watched porn. I used to watch Pornhub, and I know that many of the videos on there are made with prostitutes; many of them Eastern European, which means a good number of them are probably sex slaves.
 

ninerbuff

godless wonder
can you be 100% sure that the porn you are watching was made by consenting adults?

you do realise that there is a whole 'sex slave' market dont you? The sex slave market sees thousands of women and young girls sold into the sex industry, where they are drugged and abused and forced to work as sex slaves. Can you be fully sure that none of the porn industry use some of these women and girls?

i dont think anyone can be sure of that. So by continuing to support the porn industry, you may be inadvertently supporting the slavery of hundreds of thousands of these women.
You can't be 100% sure of anything. Are you 100% sure that the clothes you wear, or the food you eat weren't made or harvested by illegal immigrants or children? If it was wouldn't you be support illegal immigrants?
I don't think that we are that naive enough to realize that there aren't abusive markets in porn and that there are some really slimy people out there. But again, unless it's something that the majority of people in the world are worried about, it goes unregulated. If you're beef is with the abuse, then fight it. If it's with just porn in general, then you're just imposing your religious belief on those who aren't interested in it.
 

ninerbuff

godless wonder
I am no saint. I have watched porn. I used to watch Pornhub, and I know that many of the videos on there are made with prostitutes; many of them Eastern European, which means a good number of them are probably sex slaves.
Switch to RealityKings.;)
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Darkness for a person so against porn you have this affinity for young looking girls and girls kissing each other.
 

Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
Darkness for a person so against porn you have this affinity for young looking girls and girls kissing each other.

As I already explained:

I don't want to **** her [brunette haired girl]. That's the critical difference. I always wanted a little sister, but I never got one. So, whenever I watch her on tv or in music videos, I get this warm and fuzzy feelings, especially since she always plays the little sister role on Nickelodeon.

And as I have explained to countless people:

I am not sexually attracted to lesbians or lesbianism. I never really watched lesbian porn when I watched. To me lesbians are adorable and cute, not hot and sexy. Most men are dicks who could vanish from the Earth and I could care less. Thus, to me lesbian love is typically the purest form of love. That is why I always have lesbians in my signature and avatar.
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Lol warm and fuzzy feeling huh? Yeah I get that same feeling when I see:

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By the way, that whole men are dicks attitude is a huge generalization. I am a man, I gave you several compliments before. So careful of your generalizations. Lesbo love is like any form of affection. Its neither better nor worse.
 
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Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
Lol warm and fuzzy feeling huh? Yeah I get that same feeling when I see:

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You know you're not helping the case that you're a dick.


Giving compliments does not mean one is not a dick. I speak from experience. The vast majority of men are dicks. It's not P.C. but it is the truth.
 
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Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
You know you're not helping the case that you're a dick.




Giving compliments does not mean one is not a dick. I speak from experience. The vast majority of men are dicks. It's not P.C. but it is the truth.

LoL not making my case huh?

First and foremost let us get something straight you don't know me and I don't know you. We all, in one point or another have had bad experiences with the same sex, and opposite sex. Some have had interracial problems and some with intra-racial problems. I don't know if you're a male or female, but if I could count the amount of women in my life who were trash and the women I see everyday who are also trash I would run out of fingers, and would need to borrow the rest the members of RF.

But I wont sit here and generalize and say most women because I don't know most women. I have had the pleasure of seeing courageous women in action (most recently RF rahkel who has my utmost respect) as well as men. I have also witnessed the opposite on both sides. Now, I don't know how old are you in comparison to me but let me just say that regardless of the negative experiences you have had there is no reason to put people in a box. Its unfair and an illogical thing to do.

As far as myself is concerned you can think how you want. You can call me the biggest ******* here, and I wont kid myself some of you guys do here. It doesn't matter. I know who I am when I stop typing here and get back to real life. I am one of the most giving human beings that has existed on this planet that doesn't ask for a dime back. I am about humanity. But all you see are words here and because I am not making a case to be nice to you, you can maintain that ignorant mentality. At the end of the day, you nor anyone else here pay my bills, wash my butt, or pay my tuition. Take how you want to take this comment I don't give a $*@&.

If I can get over 30 years of prejudice and racism you can get over your general views of pornography and your view of men. But ironically for someone who is supposedly college educated, you have a weak personality. Then again I am a dick right?

I do blame myself for one thing. My remark to your avatar was mostly in a joking manner which may have helped if I used emoticons. I really don't care if you like Miley Cyrus and want her as a play friend. I just thought it was interesting in a humorous way.
 
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Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Wait.....I didn't see your gender symbol now I do......Gah that makes it even worse
 
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Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
You can't be 100% sure of anything. Are you 100% sure that the clothes you wear, or the food you eat weren't made or harvested by illegal immigrants or children? If it was wouldn't you be support illegal immigrants?

thats not the best question to ask me because i dont believe in boarders and would be more then happy to support 'illegal' (if thats what you want to call them) immigrants.

I don't think that we are that naive enough to realize that there aren't abusive markets in porn and that there are some really slimy people out there. But again, unless it's something that the majority of people in the world are worried about, it goes unregulated.

one drop of water doesnt seem much, but take away every drop out of an ocean and you'll have a dry bed of sand.

If you're beef is with the abuse, then fight it. If it's with just porn in general, then you're just imposing your religious belief on those who aren't interested in it.

some things are beyond mans ability to prevent. You dont think the governments and authorities have tried to stamp out prostitution and the illegal trafficking of young women?
There are higher powers at work in this world and its going to take a higher power to stop some things.
 

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
some things are beyond mans ability to prevent. You dont think the governments and authorities have tried to stamp out prostitution and the illegal trafficking of young women?
There are higher powers at work in this world and its going to take a higher power to stop some things.

Yup. That 'higher' power is the Evolutionary need to breed.
And unless we for some reason should become utterly disinterested in sex, you're gonna have porn, and probably prostitution too.
Of course, that also means that the species is going bye-bye... :sarcastic
 

ninerbuff

godless wonder
thats not the best question to ask me because i dont believe in boarders and would be more then happy to support 'illegal' (if thats what you want to call them) immigrants.
Pick your poison then. Point is you could find some really "bad" effects on something that you do or purchase in everyday life.

one drop of water doesnt seem much, but take away every drop out of an ocean and you'll have a dry bed of sand.
You're talking an almost infinite amount of drops. We here on this forum are but a microbe compared to the human population that watches porn. If it's a big concern to you, then you might be better off campaigning against it on your city hall's steps.


some things are beyond mans ability to prevent. You dont think the governments and authorities have tried to stamp out prostitution and the illegal trafficking of young women?
There are higher powers at work in this world and its going to take a higher power to stop some things.
Slavery in the US was a such a big issue a Civil war was fought over it. It eventually was abolished. If the government and people approached the issue the right way, it could be done.
And if this god you believe in wanted it done, then since the beginning of prostitution is a long time to wait. It's been over 6000 years, according to most fundies, and it's still around.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Pick your poison then. Point is you could find some really "bad" effects on something that you do or purchase in everyday life.

i agree, corruption is rife. Anything good can be, and has been, corrupted. The only way to stop it is for people to change...but only they can do that.


And if this god you believe in wanted it done, then since the beginning of prostitution is a long time to wait. It's been over 6000 years, according to most fundies, and it's still around.

God will put a stop to these things eventually. He's permitted man to rule without his guidance, but he isnt going to let them do it forever...mans rule will reach its limit and then we will have true freedom and not the false freedom we all think we have now.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
God will put a stop to these things eventually. He's permitted man to rule without his guidance, but he isnt going to let them do it forever...mans rule will reach its limit and then we will have true freedom and not the false freedom we all think we have now.
So what's he waiting for?
 

Comicaze247

See the previous line
I haven't voted yet, simply because I don't know what you mean by "legitimate." How are you deciding what makes something "legitimate" in a society?
 
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