Does pornography have a legitimate place in society?

[Vendetta]

Likewise, there are many 18-year-old's that won't voluntary sell themselves into slavery to pay off a debt, so let us legalise voluntary slavery.



This is precisely why the liberal tradition is morally and rationally bankrupt. It equates success with glamorisation, even if it is objectification, so long as there are monetary rewards. There is as episode of Sponge Bob which makes the point clearly. Patrick Star is paid by Mr. Crabs to fall down from greater and greater heights, because it attracts a crowd of adoring fans, who get much needed amusement out of his antics. According to you, Patrick would be empowered by this act. And if he ventured on his own and started his own business, getting others to do the same, he would be more empowered. Of course that is absurd, but the rules of the game are changed when it comes to porn, just like religious fundamentalists always change the rules when it comes to God and murder/genocide.



Probably one of the reasons 9 out of 10 men are chauvinistic ********.



As far as I am aware, the sex scene in Monster's Ball was simulated.

But a lot of people not even pornography subject themselves to objectification. Hell interns are the best example and their form of monetary reward is experience. As far as your comment on monsters ball simulated or not, they still used billy bob thortons and Hallie Berry's likeness. That alone will create the association.

 

[Darkness]

Yet you continued by trying to trump the fact that slavery is not a voluntary condition, by change terms mid stream, pretending that "slavery" is "indentured servitude," Nice try, but red just isn't green, and never will be.

And FYI,

"An indentured servant was typically a young, unskilled laborer contracted to work for an employer for a fixed period of time, typically three to seven years, in exchange for transportation, food, clothing, lodging and other necessities during the term of their indenture.[1] They included men and women; most were under age 21, and most became helpers on farms or house servants."
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Voluntary slavery and indentured servitude are not the same thing.

 

[Vendetta]

Lol voluntary slavery? You mean the kinky slavery?

 

[Darkness]

But a lot of people not even pornography subject themselves to objectification. Hell interns are the best example and their form of monetary reward is experience. As far as your comment on monsters ball simulated or not, they still used billy bob thortons and Hallie Berry's likeness. That alone will create the association.

So when I do my summer internship lobbying for an anti-trafficking/violence organisation or a women's shelter, I am being objectified?

Lol voluntary slavery? You mean the kinky slavery?

Just do a damn Wiki search.

 

[Vendetta]

So when I do my summer internship lobbying for an anti-trafficking/violence organisation or a women's shelter, I am being objectified?




Just do a damn Wiki search.

I was joking on the latter but I highly doubt my ancestors saw slavery as voluntary.....as far as your internship goes it depends who you intern for. If its for a fortune 500 company yeah you will be. Most interns don't learn from a company by getting coffee, lunch, and restocking printers. Most interns in these fields are whipping boys and girls.

 

[Skwim]

Voluntary slavery and indentured servitude are not the same thing.

Really!

"But, what about voluntary slavery? Is it exceptable for a person to voluntarily make themselves a slave in return for lodging, food, and some basic necessities? This was called indentured servitude two hundred years ago. People would voluntarily become slave for a fixed time period in order to learn a craft, such as blacksmithing, coppersmithing, or another skill. After the time period was over, they had a skill that they could use to start their own life in another town."
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"Any system of voluntary slavery that evolves on the free market must tend to benefit both slave and master. Although not entirely in accordance with the theory I have given here, the system of indentured servitude which existed in the Colonial days of America is a fairly reasonable example. The fact that people continued to become indentured servants in exchange for passage to America shows that it was considered to have been a good deal for both sides."
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[Darkness]

Really!

"But, what about voluntary slavery? Is it exceptable for a person to voluntarily make themselves a slave in return for lodging, food, and some basic necessities? This was called indentured servitude two hundred years ago. People would voluntarily become slave for a fixed time period in order to learn a craft, such as blacksmithing, coppersmithing, or another skill. After the time period was over, they had a skill that they could use to start their own life in another town."
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"Any system of voluntary slavery that evolves on the free market must tend to benefit both slave and master. Although not entirely in accordance with the theory I have given here, the system of indentured servitude which existed in the Colonial days of America is a fairly reasonable example. The fact that people continued to become indentured servants in exchange for passage to America shows that it was considered to have been a good deal for both sides."
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Fine, whatever. Stop following this red herring and address the point I had made. I have never used the ignore feature on a forum, before, but I am starting to learn that certain people are not worth the effort.

 

[Skwim]

Fine, whatever. Stop following this red herring and address the point I had made. I have never used the ignore feature on a forum, before, but I am starting to learn that certain people are not worth the effort.

I've already addressed all the points you've made that interest me, which is pretty much a universal SOP for everyone. As far as your frustration with me, I can only imagine how difficult it must be to care so much what someone thinks that you can't bear to hear them disagree with you. So I accept your compliment---thank you very much---and extend my sympathies.

 

[Darkness]

I've already addressed all the points you've made that interest me, which is pretty much a universal SOP for everyone. As far as your frustration with me, I can only imagine how difficult it must be to care so much what someone thinks that you can't bear to hear them disagree with you. So I accept your compliment---thank you very much---and extend my sympathies.

It's more that I am worried about wasting my time battling semantics instead of anything productive. But whatever helps you sleep at night, and boosts your ego. By all means, think highly of yourself. It's better than the reverse.

 

[linwood]

You must be watching the Homeamatuers.com site then!!!

You watching the wrong material son! I will loan you my collection if you like lol

Actually the amateur stuff is more to my taste than pro commercial porn as professional mainstream porn strikes me more as comedy than eroticism.

 

[ninerbuff]

Actually the amateur stuff is more to my taste than pro commercial porn as professional mainstream porn strikes me more as comedy than eroticism.

Happy Tugs is my favorite right now.

 

[Where Is God]

It has a legitimate role in keepin the Internet alive. Something you are using now.

 

[Darkness]

It has a legitimate role in keepin the Internet alive. Something you are using now.

Humorous, but not true.

 

[Where Is God]

Humorous, but not true.

Don't be so quite sure. Look it up. The www took off with porn

 

[outhouse]

Actually the amateur stuff is more to my taste than pro commercial porn as professional mainstream porn strikes me more as comedy than eroticism.

if that isnt the truth

we are funny creatures that most people love a good freak show and a laugh.


Nothing wrong with porn, in a society packed together in a unatural way,,, porn has more benifits then negitives.

 

[Darkness]

Don't be so quite sure. Look it up. The www took off with porn

I am sure it accelerated its development. Yet, the course of history is primarily driven by materialism, and not spiritual values.

Nothing wrong with porn, in a society packed together in a unatural way,,, porn has more benifits then negitives.

I cannot help but wonder what arguments the Romans used to justify their gladiator tournaments.

 

[outhouse]

I cannot help but wonder what arguments the Romans used to justify their gladiator tournaments.

I dont think they questioned their entertainment once.

 

[Pegg]

I dont think they questioned their entertainment once.

which is all the more reason for us to question ours :yes:

 

[Darkness]

which is all the more reason for us to question ours :yes:

Damn, that was a good come back.

 

[RitalinO.D.]

I think someone has an unhealthy obsession with Miranda Cosgrove