Does science prove the existence of god?

[Spirit Channeller]

I hope you won't mind me telling you what I believe because while I believe it I cannot prove it.
I do know I am a Psychic who has been communicating with the Spirit World since l985 and I have had many Spirits appear to me some my deceased relatives and some who claim to be spokesmen for God and those spokesmen for God are in convict with some of my Relatives and what the truth is and what they feel they have learned since they died back in the fourties, fifties and sixties.
My Relatives say they don't have all the answers to where God is and What God is but they say they know one thing for sure that God doesn not have dominace over them and they say they can do and say anything they choose to and no one in the Universe can stop them and since l986 they have been trying to prove whether God has dominance over them and they have been doing this by sitting inside my body as possessing spirits and they say no one in the univers ecan remove them from my body and so far they seem to be right on that but now we have to prove can anyone punish them for what they are doing if they leave my body.
I cannot at this time prove this one way or the other because they are now too frightened of the concept of God and what he might be able to do to them to leave my body.
Very few people believe what I am saying and so I would like to say to those who are searching for the truth that you might like to learn to communicate with the Spirit World and learn how to speak your your own deceased friends and relatives and see what they tell you about the Spirit World they found when they died and went to the after life.
When a person on Earth dies their spirit with all its intelligence and memories leaves this earthly body and goes to the Spirit World and they can speak back to Earth and my Relatives say there is a lot of misconceptions about what is in the Spirit World ad what Heaven is or isn't and they say they are here to prove this to the World and I say if they intend to prove something they now need to leave my body and prove once and for all whether a Spirit named God has the power to punish them for being Possessing Spirits and causing me pain over the years.

 

[logician]

I have met several people who claimed to be able to communicate with the spirit world, and have found their claims to be bogus. ONe must be a hard skeptic in this game, where people try to profit off of others by selling their snake oil.

 

[An-D]

Einstien spent the last ten years of his life trying to connect/prove God through science. If that man can't do it, no one can. And if no one can, then it must not exist.

 

[Thales of Ga.]

In "Has Science found God?' and "God: the failed Hypothesis," Victor Stenger shows science does indeed show no god! Scientists use methodological natural for keeping God out of science as previously discusse; we naturalists use it for our philosophical naturalism as pertaining to the supernatural and the paranormal.[As a schizotypal, I am supposed to harbour both but I abjure both.]

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

In "Has Science found God?' and "God: the failed Hypothesis," Victor Stenger shows science does indeed show no god!

As a long time subscriber to Philo, I am more than a little familiar with Stenger and I suspect that he has done no such thing. But please feel free to quote him to the contrary ...

 

[logician]

Certain god concepts can be proven not to be true. Since religion is based upon faith, it does not entertain the idea of being proven. This way religion can get its followers to believe in impossible events(scientifically) no questions asked.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Certain god concepts can be proven not to be true. Since religion is based upon faith, it does not entertain the idea of being proven. This way religion can get its followers to believe in impossible events(scientifically) no questions asked.

That doesn't even rise to the level of a dumb syllogism. It's simply petty ad hominem. BTW, science "does not entertain the idea of being proven".

 

[Rolling_Stone]

I have heard many religious state in these forums that they believe science proves god's existence, but I've never been able to formally question them.

I am very interested to see some of this evidence though, so please, post away and then we can talk about it!

Of course science doesn't prove God's existence, but it does suggest that a non-anthropormorphic God is a real possibility, if not probable. Bell's Theorem, the Aspect experiments, the double-slit experiment and its variations all point to, as Sir James Jeans put it, “the understanding that the universe is more like a great thought than a great machine.”

Granted, interpretating the results of experiments this way is a minority point of view, but the majority view is not more valid because it is the majority view.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Bell's Theorem, the Aspect experiments, the double-slit experiment and its variations all point to, as Sir James Jeans put it, “the understanding that the universe is more like a great thought than a great machine.”

Granted, interpretating the results of experiments this way is a minority point of view, but the majority view is not more valid because it is the majority view.

Could you further explain and support this 'minority view'? I'm interested in, but not quite sure I understand the meaning of, the statement by Sir James Jean that you quoted.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Of course science doesn't prove God's existence, but it does suggest that a non-anthropormorphic God is a real possibility, if not probable.

In no way, shape, or form does it do such a thing - dualism does not necessitate deity.

 

[Alan Young]

Science is humans understanding of nature and why things work the way they work.

Here is the realisation: Basic science " pure H2O Water Boils at 100 oC" the question is not why? Its who says so?

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Here is the realisation: Basic science " pure H2O Water Boils at 100 oC" the question is not why? Its who says so?

Who.....or what.

 

[Alan Young]

The "what" you are looking for is "magnetic forces" scientificaly speaking, magnetic forces bind all atoms to make molecules,[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]molecules make elements water is an element the question again is who say's so. Whom ever creates and fertilzes planets through using atoms with life surly has to be all knowing, all powerfull and good this sounds like god.

 

[Willamena]

The "what" you are looking for is "magnetic forces" scientificaly speaking, magnetic forces bind all atoms to make molecules,molecules make elements water is an element the question again is who say's so. Whom ever creates and fertilzes planets through using atoms with life surly has to be all knowing, all powerfull and good this sounds like god.

Magnetic?

 

[Pah]

As a long time subscriber to Philo, I am more than a li.ttle familiar with Stenger and I suspect that he has done no such thing. But please feel free to quote him to the contrary ...

It is in the totality of quotes from God, The Failed Hypothesis.

If we have no evidence or other reason for believing in God, then we can be pretty sure that God does not exist.

It does not appear - based on scientific evidence - that a God exists who answers prayer, in any significant, observable way

Once again it appears that a God with a traditional attribute of monotheistic God, who humans with immortal souls, does not exist

Without going through each chapter, I have the feeling each one does indeed say God does not exist

 

[Willamena]

Science is humans understanding of nature and why things work the way they work.

Here is the realisation: Basic science " pure H2O Water Boils at 100 oC" the question is not why? Its who says so?

The question is, if it boiled at 101 oC would you ask the same question?

We set out to determine a scale based on where things freeze (0) to where things boil (100), and they boil at 101!!! What are the odds?

 

[Pah]

The question is, if it boiled at 101 oC would you ask the same question?

It boils at a higher temperature above see level

 

[Alan Young]

Its scientific discovery that teaches us the way things work the big question is why?
and Who Said So? All I know is that good things happen when Protons, Neutrons and electrons get together through magnetic forces causing them to bind but humans fail to understand the miracal behind all god creations.

All creations work in harmony with each other it is up to the human race to keep it that way.

 

[Alan Young]

Fact the earth is mother nature the carrier.
Who binds this miracle who fertilizes the egg otherwise know as the planet earth.

Who brings the atoms together, then brings the molecules together, then combines the elements to make all that we know to be true.

GOD!

This science for all to discover as been here since the begining of time and then we appear for a few moments in time and think we know it all when we know nothing

 

[Papersock]

Fact the earth is mother nature the carrier.
Who binds this miracle who fertilizes the egg otherwise know as the planet earth.

Who brings the atoms together, then brings the molecules together, then combines the elements to make all that we know to be true.

GOD!

This science for all to discover as been here since the begining of time and then we appear for a few moments in time and think we know it all when we know nothing

Is this science or assumption?
How do you know it's a "who" that brings atoms together?