Does the Apostle Paul claim that Jesus Christ, the holy anointed man, is Almighty God?

[101G]

First, let me reiterate what I said before -- verses mean different things to different people.
To me, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." means that no individual person has the AUTHORITY to interpret scripture and claim they know what it means.

You claim it was "REVEALED" by God to you, through the Holy Spirit, so you know what it means, but other Christians say the same thing, yet they believe the same scripture means something different.

Do you see the problem?.

let 101G reiterate what he said before. no scripture contradicts another scripture. if it does then YOUR interpretation.is not of God. plain and simple.

Example. Father, son, Holy Ghost is in the bible right. but are these persons, or titles of one person? and when one interprets these titles as separate persons. that's when their interpretation are exposed as with the Title "Lord God" in Isaiah 48:16..... vs Revelation 1:1, 22:6 and 22:16. it's one person and not three.

the scriptures never contradict itself.

101G.

 

[Trailblazer]

let 101G reiterate what he said before. no scripture contradicts another scripture. if it does then YOUR interpretation.is not of God. plain and simple.

Example. Father, son, Holy Ghost is in the bible right. but are these persons, or titles of one person? and when one interprets these titles as separate persons. that's when their interpretation are exposed as with the Title "Lord God" in Isaiah 48:16..... vs Revelation 1:1, 22:6 and 22:16. it's one person and not three.

the scriptures never contradict itself..

Jesus the Son was a person, but the Holy Ghost and God are not persons.

The Son ≠ the Father ≠ the Holy Ghost.

Lord God in the following verse refers to God the Father.
His Spirit refers to the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost)

Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

The following verse make it clear that Jesus the Son is not God the Father.
God gave a Revelation to Jesus Christ. God did not give a Revelation to Himself.

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

 

[Soapy]

Jesus the Son was a person, but the Holy Ghost and God are not persons.

The Son ≠ the Father ≠ the Holy Ghost.

Lord God in the following verse refers to God the Father.
His Spirit refers to the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost)

Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

The following verse make it clear that Jesus the Son is not God the Father.
God gave a Revelation to Jesus Christ. God did not give a Revelation to Himself.

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

And don’t forget verse 13:

• “13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.”

and verse 12 is a double of that famous other verse:

• “Listen to me, Jacob, Israel, whom I have called: I am he; I am the first and I am the last.”
  
• “Hear, O Israel, Yahweh your God is the only one”

Yes, ‘the First and Last’ means ‘the Only One’

God was telling the Israelites that:

• “Though other tribes and nations have many Gods who they worship; For you, my beloved Israelites, there is only one God whom you should worship…Yahweh, your only God!”

How all this translates to: ‘There is only one God - You must only worship THE THREE OF US!’ … is beyond all reason.

 

[samtonga43]

How all this translates to: ‘There is only one God - You must only worship THE THREE OF US!’ … is beyond all reason.

It certainly is.

 

[Brian2]

I don't know what you mean by 'created.'
All I know is that the souls of the Prophets existed in the spiritual world before they were connected to their bodies in this world.

I know that God has always existed, since scriptures say that God is eternal, but I don't know if the spiritual world has existed 'from eternity' since no scriptures that I know of say that.

Baha'u'llah wrote that God's creation has always existed, so maybe that includes the spiritual world, since it is part of God's creation.

“As to thy question concerning the origin of creation. Know assuredly that God’s creation hath existed from eternity, and will continue to exist forever. Its beginning hath had no beginning, and its end knoweth no end. His name, the Creator, presupposeth a creation, even as His title, the Lord of Men, must involve the existence of a servant.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 150

But that does not mean that life on earth has always existed, since creation is inclusive of the whole universe.

"Created" means that something did not exist and God has brought it into existence.

 

[Trailblazer]

"Created" means that something did not exist and God has brought it into existence.

Since God has brought everything into existence, I would guess that the souls of the Prophets were created.

 

[101G]

Jesus the Son was a person, but the Holy Ghost and God are not persons.

who told you that LIE? first, what is the Soul.... answer, the PERSON, the soul is Essentially, who you are. It's the person’s thoughts, their desires, will, emotions and the ability to reason. The soul is the heart of the body, the soul is YOU the person, not the spirit, nor the body, but YOU the PERSON. do God have a SOUL? let the bible speak,
the OT. God speaking, Isaiah 1:14 "Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them."

NT, Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;"

who is the .... "HIS PERSON" that the Lord Jesus is the express image of? answer, GOD himself. this is just too easy, way too easy.

understand something Trailblazer. the Holy ...... Spirit. Holy is his Character, and Spirit is his NATURE, and Character, yes, it's the PERSON.

these things you should already know.

Lord God in the following verse refers to God the Father.
His Spirit refers to the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost)

Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

are you kidding? 101G God willing, answer this again, tommorrow.

101G.

 

[Brian2]

Since God has brought everything into existence, I would guess that the souls of the Prophets were created.

The Word had no beginning.

 

[Soapy]

The Word had no beginning.

What is the meaning of ‘the word [of God]’?

 

[Brian2]

What is the meaning of ‘the word [of God]’?

The Word is Jesus, both before and after becoming a man. I sometimes use "The Word" instead of "Jesus" when I am speaking of Jesus before He became a man.

 

[Soapy]

The Word is Jesus, both before and after becoming a man. I sometimes use "The Word" instead of "Jesus" when I am speaking of Jesus before He became a man.

No, Brian. You are answering to ‘WHO is the word’.

My question is ‘WHAT’ does the term ‘the Word of God’ mean.

Is ‘The word of Yahweh’ the same as ‘The word of God’?

And how does God creating the world by His word: ‘Let there be light’, relate to the claim that Jesus created all things BY HIMSELF, if it was God’s word that created all things?

Was the word not God’s word?

Who then is God if Jesus is God’s word?

 

[samtonga43]

The Word had no beginning.

True. And He was begotten, not created.

 

[Soapy]

Is there a person who was ever born but not begotten?

BEGET:

past participle: begotten
1. (especially of a man) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction.
e.g. ‘they hoped that the King might beget an heir by his new queen and in a short time the sin was begotten’
​

And God said unto him: “You are my Son; This day I have become your Father”… this day I have begotten you.

“Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God [Begotten of God], and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well.” (1 John 5:1)

And through Jesus Christ we have gained the right to become sons of God.

Adam (Man) was a creation of God. Jesus Christ is the second and last created Adam (Man) - a holy creation because just as there is a second covenant there is a second man holy sinless and righteous seeing that if the first man had remained holy there would have been no need got a second!

All humanity other than Adam and Jesus were Fathered from another of humanity.

 

[Trailblazer]

who told you that LIE? first, what is the Soul.... answer, the PERSON, the soul is Essentially, who you are. It's the person’s thoughts, their desires, will, emotions and the ability to reason. The soul is the heart of the body, the soul is YOU the person, not the spirit, nor the body, but YOU the PERSON.

Yes, you are correct about everything you said above. The Soul is the person who we are.

do God have a SOUL? let the bible speak, the OT. God speaking, Isaiah 1:14 "Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them."

That was Isaiah speaking and referring to his soul as my soul.

All humans have a soul (a person). Isaiah was a human, so Isaiah had a soul (a person).
God is not a human so God does not have a soul. That means God does not have a person.

NT, Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;"

who is the .... "HIS PERSON" that the Lord Jesus is the express image of? answer, GOD himself. this is just too easy, way too easy.

I found the correct translation of Hebrews 1:3.
NIV
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

God is not a person, God is a being.
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of God's being, sustaining all things by his powerful word.

are you kidding? 101G God willing, answer this again, tomorrow.

101G.

I got that wrong yesterday but now I know what it means.

Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

The meaning of the verse is that God has sent Isaiah accompanied by His prophetic spirit. Isaiah affirms that God, who has placed within him the power of prophecy, sent him.

The Lord God, and his Spirit, sent Isaiah.

 

[Brian2]

No, Brian. You are answering to ‘WHO is the word’.

My question is ‘WHAT’ does the term ‘the Word of God’ mean.

Is ‘The word of Yahweh’ the same as ‘The word of God’?

And how does God creating the world by His word: ‘Let there be light’, relate to the claim that Jesus created all things BY HIMSELF, if it was God’s word that created all things?

Was the word not God’s word?

Who then is God if Jesus is God’s word?

I usually see "the Word of God" as the title given to Jesus. (John 1:1, Rev 19"11-21)
Rev 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.” He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
king of kings and lord of lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”
19 Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20 But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21 The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.

The "what" is the things that God speaks.
God is the Father and Jesus is the Son. The truth, the word of God, comes from the Father and is words. The Word, the Son, the Truth, is in the Father and comes from the Father also.
God created all things through His words and through the Word.
The Word is a living person and was there at creation doing whatever He did. The Word has the same nature as His Father and the heavens were the work of His hands. (Heb 1:10)
YHWH alone spread out the heavens (Isa 44:24).
The Word is YHWN as well as the Father being YHWH.

 

[Brian2]

Is there a person who was ever born but not begotten?

BEGET:

past participle: begotten
1. (especially of a man) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction.
e.g. ‘they hoped that the King might beget an heir by his new queen and in a short time the sin was begotten’
​

And God said unto him: “You are my Son; This day I have become your Father”… this day I have begotten you.

“Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God [Begotten of God], and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well.” (1 John 5:1)

And through Jesus Christ we have gained the right to become sons of God.

Adam (Man) was a creation of God. Jesus Christ is the second and last created Adam (Man) - a holy creation because just as there is a second covenant there is a second man holy sinless and righteous seeing that if the first man had remained holy there would have been no need got a second!

All humanity other than Adam and Jesus were Fathered from another of humanity.

Jesus was begotten in Mary, but existed with God before that.
The begetting of the Son (Psalm 2) is usually applied to Jesus resurrection in the New Testament. Jesus existed before that also.
Your definitions are to do with humans and not the Son of God who is from eternity.

 

[Soapy]

I usually see "the Word of God" as the title given to Jesus. (John 1:1, Rev 19"11-21)
Rev 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.” He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
king of kings and lord of lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.”
19 Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20 But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21 The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.

The "what" is the things that God speaks.
God is the Father and Jesus is the Son. The truth, the word of God, comes from the Father and is words. The Word, the Son, the Truth, is in the Father and comes from the Father also.
God created all things through His words and through the Word.
The Word is a living person and was there at creation doing whatever He did. The Word has the same nature as His Father and the heavens were the work of His hands. (Heb 1:10)
YHWH alone spread out the heavens (Isa 44:24).
The Word is YHWN as well as the Father being YHWH.

I see you really struggled to put that corrupted response together.

But you know that yourself. Part truth and part lie is still a lie.

 

[Soapy]

Jesus was begotten in Mary, but existed with God before that.
The begetting of the Son (Psalm 2) is usually applied to Jesus resurrection in the New Testament. Jesus existed before that also.
Your definitions are to do with humans and not the Son of God who is from eternity.

‘Existed WITH GOD’…

‘Beside(s) me there is no God’!

So, you say that the eternal name of the Father (‘Yhwh’) was always the name of the Son?

But the eternal name of the Son is ‘Yeshua’ (‘Jesus’, in English mistranslation)

Are you claiming that the son has two eternal names?
‘That at the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow’
‘Eternal life depends on knowing YHWH; the one true God, and also Jesus Christ, whom YHWH sent’

In the interest of ‘proofs’, can you show a verse from the Bible scriptures that states the Son as being called ‘Yhwh’?

 

[101G]

That was Isaiah speaking and referring to his soul as my soul.

ERROR, Isaiah was writing what God said, CONTEX, CONTEX, CONTEXT, Listen, Isaiah 1:10 "Hear the word of the LORD, (HEAR YE THE WORDS OF WHO? NOT ISAIAH, BUT THE LORD). ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah. "Isaiah 1:11 "To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats." Isaiah 1:12 "When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?" Isaiah 1:13 "Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting." Isaiah 1:14 "Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them." Isaiah 1:15 "And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood."

now, if you can get Isaiah being prayed to, offered sacrifices to and worshipped, THE YOU GO BOY, OR GIRL. (smile). 10G need not say anything else ...... YIKES!

Good Day.

101G.

 

[samtonga43]

I see you really struggled to put that corrupted response together.

I see you really struggle to understand Scripture:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”.
So... you have two persons, God and the Word of God And the second person, the Word of God, is God and with God.