"With" implies not the same a different person.
First thanks for the reply, second, let's see what the bible has to say about "WITH" concerning God in an ECHAD of himself.
Scripture, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God is one LORD:"
notice the "LORD" all caps is God, RIGHT. now this. Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning?
I the LORD,
the first, and
with the last; I am he."
so, the "LORD", all caps is the First who is "
WITH" the LAST correct. and Notice, he said, "I, I, I, AM he, I is a single person designation..
now this, Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called;
I am he;
I am the first, I also am the last." and you do know what "ALSO" means, if not sure... look it up.
well Brian2, the Bible disagree with you. the First, (the LORD, all caps as in Deuteronomy 6:4, the same LORD), who is "ALSO" the Last, (the Lord, who is Jesus the Christ). for we have the Lord Jesus testimony, and you do know that he cannot LIE. let's hear it from him. Revelation 1:9 "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 1:10 "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet," Revelation 1:11 "Saying, I am Alpha and Omega,
the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea." IS THIS NOT THE Lord JESUS? LET'S MAKE SURE, Revelation 2:8 "And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith
the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;"
the only one who was dead and now alive is the Lord Jesus, Revelation 1:16 "And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength." Revelation 1:17 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not
; I am the first and the last:" Revelation 1:18
"I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."
so we know that the FIRST and the LAST is the Lord Jesus, now question, "How many Person is Jesus?".... thank you, ONE PERSON, but did not the "LORD", all caps say he is the First? yes, but if he's a separate person, then one has two Gods. for the First who is the LORD CREATED and MADE ALL THINGS, and according to Isaiah 44:24 he was ALONE and BY HIMSELF. meaning that this is the same one Person. or as said you have two CREATORS, for John 1:3 speaking of the Word who was ... "
WITH" God in the beginning, (John 1:1) in verse 3 MADE ALL THINGS. because he is the same person "GOD", (John 1:1c). so, either this is the same one person, else you have two Gods, meaning two CREATORS, or TWO FATHERS.
so, either men lied, or Isaiah 48:12 IS CORRECT. "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first,
I also am the last."
your choice, God or men whom you choose to believe.
101G.
