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Does the Jan 6th Commission Have Any Truthful Evidence That Would Withstand Honest Scrutiny?

NArdas

Member
I think not for if the democrat majority committee had any "smoking gun" evidence against Donald J Trump then there would be no debate as to whether to recommend charges or not and if they did and they are withholding it then they are derelict in their duty are they not? Yes, I have a bias and it is a bias against dishonesty and political posturing no matter who does it. As thinking adults does it make any sense that a certain "side" would be debating amongst themselves if they had truthful evidence?

I would say that this kangaroo commission is grasping at straws and are having to feast on their own fetid excrement smeared buttocks (eww...nasty)
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Serious minded Democrats and a couple of honest Republicans are taking time to investigate and sift truth from lies. Of course fact deniers will deny the facts and dismiss the evidence before we even hear it as we've been promised.

Personally we know enough so that traitor and liars as Sen. Elizabeth Warren noted are trying to cover up the facts because they have their noses in trump's butt and are cowardly hiding from losing what little power they have not to mention the corruption that is so evident to those paying attention.
 

NArdas

Member
Serious minded Democrats and a couple of honest Republicans are taking time to investigate and sift truth from lies. Of course fact deniers will deny the facts and dismiss the evidence before we even hear it as we've been promised.

Personally we know enough so that traitor and liars as Sen. Elizabeth Warren noted are trying to cover up the facts because they have their noses in trump's butt and are cowardly hiding from losing what little power they have not to mention the corruption that is so evident to those paying attention.


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NArdas

Member
I do not think that you would accept the evidence. TDS still appears to be rampant among Republicans.

I'd love to see it in open court, it would serve to be yet another mockery of the left and their failures. Please write your representatives and implore them to support the pursuance in the "facts" of the case, they have already admitted defeat
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I'd love to see it in open court, it would serve to be yet another mockery of the left and their failures. Please write your representatives and implore them to support the pursuance in the "facts" of the case, they have already admitted defeat
The hearings in the Senate or House will be in an "open court". Do you remember the first Trump impeachment trial? There was plenty of evidence found in the House, that was the House's job to find evidence. Do you know what happened to that evidenced?

And the only ones not going after the facts are Republicans.

If you don't like biased sources then use Reuters.
 

NArdas

Member
The hearings in the Senate or House will be in an "open court". Do you remember the first Trump impeachment trial? There was plenty of evidence found in the House, that was the House's job to find evidence. Do you know what happened to that evidenced?

And the only ones not going after the facts are Republicans.

If you don't like biased sources then use Reuters.

So where is the "beef"?
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
So when are the legitimate charges being brought forth? We paid for them so I expect results

I believe the committee's purpose is investigative, not to charge.

With what the committee has uncovered, do you not believe it is enough to show that there was an attempt to interfere with the Democratic process by the former President and his allies?
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
there's been tonnes of evidence of Republican corruption and coup attempts revealed, someone's not doing their research.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
if the democrat majority committee had any "smoking gun" evidence against Donald J Trump then there would be no debate as to whether to recommend charges or not

The issue is not whether the committee has assembled a criminal case against Trump and others. Raskin says they have, and that it will be explosive when presented during the televised congressional hearings coming up: Jan. 6 revelations will 'blow the roof off the House,' Rep. Jamie Raskin says

The issue is whether the committee should refer the case to the Department of Justice with a recommendation to prosecute or simply release it to the public as a formal report without such a recommendation. It seems the decision to not do so is based in the belief that Garland intends to prosecute if he has winnable cases with or without a recommendation from the committee. The DOJ is likely doing parallel investigations which are either already on par with the committee's finding or that will simply take the committee's findings and add any new evidence to the DOJ's case. The reason is that prosecution after such a recommendation from the committee will be fuel for claims that the DOJ's prosecution was partisan and politically motivated, which will happen anyway, but why give the defendants and their supporters extra fodder for their complaint?

So you are blaming the lack of evidence on republicans?

What lack of evidence? Raskin promises that the evidence they have already will knock the public's socks off. I don't see him saying that if he and the rest of the committee don't believe that that is the case. He seems to be teasing the public now to increase interest and viewership in the upcoming televised hearings, like the advances on a movie.

Ask yourself this: If Trump et. al. are guilty of attempting to overturn a fair election and incited an insurrection in furtherance of that goal, would you consider that criminal? Would you consider it an attack on the United States? Would you want to see the guilty identified, convicted, and punished?

The answer to that from much of the country including most of the Republican party is no, they do not want that outcome whatever the facts. Such people no longer have any values in common with the others that think that such actions constitute crimes against the Constitution and that there ought to be a rule of law in play that applies equally to all citizens. If that is one's position, what does he have in common with people who oppose it?
 

KW

Well-Known Member
I think not for if the democrat majority committee had any "smoking gun" evidence against Donald J Trump then there would be no debate as to whether to recommend charges or not and if they did and they are withholding it then they are derelict in their duty are they not? Yes, I have a bias and it is a bias against dishonesty and political posturing no matter who does it. As thinking adults does it make any sense that a certain "side" would be debating amongst themselves if they had truthful evidence?

I would say that this kangaroo commission is grasping at straws and are having to feast on their own fetid excrement smeared buttocks (eww...nasty)


It's just more distractions from the party that doesn't do anything good for Americans.

They have nothing to offer so they lie about Republicans.
 
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