sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
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Does this sum up Christian doctrine?
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waitasec
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aren't these expressions a way to convey or draw out an emotion or a particular response... is that is what you mean by make meaning?
we are still left with a lack of understanding while these emotions express how we feel about it.
waitasec
Veteran Member
but i would argue that no one is in the position to make that assessment then...even scholars find them selves disagreeing because theology is based on subjective understanding...
which is why i think it's a weak theology
the jewish tradition..the oral tradition
from my perspective, joseph smith and mohammed were just like paul. they were the bridge that crossed into new directions subjected to the political and social climate of the time.
Wouldn't anyone have an emotional response to something if they felt it was making fun of them or what they believe in?
Dawkins says Christians believe this? Is he right?
The famous Richard Dawkins describes Christians as ones who believe that "the Inventor of the laws of physics and programmer of the NDA code decided to enter the uterus of a Jewish virgin, got himself born, then deliberately had himself tortured and executed because he couldn't think of a better way to forgive the theft of an apple, committed at the instigation of a talking snake. As Creator of the majestically expanding universe, he not only understands relativistic gravity and quantum mechanics but actually designed them. Yet when he really cares about is "sin," abortion, how often you go to church and whether gay people should marry."
It seems to sum up the whole way Christianity and Intelligent Design theory come together.
Who believes it and who does not---and why?
Luk 4:3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.
The stone/s are the nation of Israel. Can Jesus as the Son of God make them believe (bread)in Him as God?
Luk 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Meaning, that just because they are the chosen does not necessarily mean they are alive.
Yes, they live but are as dead stones.
Lively stones are:1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
So, having said all that I have but one more thing to add, and that is that if our hearts are made of stone, we shall not see the ways, the works of God in a way that makes us living stones.
Mr. Dawkins will recognize the creator when he meets Him face to face.
Sadly, not recognizing the benefits of Jesus early in our lives is a loss.
blessings, AJ
waitasec
Veteran Member
from what i gather, jesus would have you ignore your emotions about how you feel...emotions get in the way of salvation.
We Christians are just as human as everyone else.
But I don't recall reading any verse that says that emotions get in the way of salvation. flouncing floo
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Dawkins says Christians believe this? Is he right?
The famous Richard Dawkins describes Christians as ones who believe that "the Inventor of the laws of physics and programmer of the NDA code decided to enter the uterus of a Jewish virgin, got himself born, then deliberately had himself tortured and executed because he couldn't think of a better way to forgive the theft of an apple, committed at the instigation of a talking snake. As Creator of the majestically expanding universe, he not only understands relativistic gravity and quantum mechanics but actually designed them. Yet when he really cares about is "sin," abortion, how often you go to church and whether gay people should marry."
It seems to sum up the whole way Christianity and Intelligent Design theory come together.
Who believes it and who does not---and why?
Basically Dawkins seems to have a handle on what some Christians of the fundamentalist persuasion seem to believe!:yes:
waitasec
Veteran Member
We Christians are just as human as everyone else.
but of course...
But I don't recall reading any verse that says that emotions get in the way of salvation.
read luke 6
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Well, beauty evokes more than a simple emotional response. Beauty, art, does create meaning for us.
waitasec
Veteran Member
waitasec
Veteran Member
the meaning is emotional.
So is empathy which can be used to make a logical stance.
outhouse
Atheistically
does not the context of theology follow middle of the road interpretation used by the masses?
charles brough
Member
You realize, don't you?, that you are relying only on Ancient Scriptures for every thought you are presenting. Don't you ever look around and at the work of hundreds of thousands of dedicated experts who go right to the matter and figure out what has and is really happening? Does all their work and the whole civilization we have build because of it mean nothing to you? Do you want us to go back to the Dark Ages and all be dirt farmers under the control of a gang of brutal knights?
A better theological understanding should be more consistent with material facts. When material science advances, human understanding goes forward, and theology should also grow accordingly. Truth is alive, understanding of Truth should progress as man evolves.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Is it? Or is it spiritual?
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
No, not always.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Absolutely. That's why we largely no longer understand God to be a localized, tribal, warrior-god.